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    National Public Forum on Road Safety

    USJ.COM will likely send representative(s) to the above Forum to be held at Sunway Logoon next Tuesday.

    In order to gather more suggestions, it would be appreciated if members of the community make their suggestions here so that they could be forwarded at next week's Forum.

    Please offer comments and suggestions. It would be appreciated if criticisms are raised, that they be accompanied by appropriate suggestion(s) so that we are perceived as being constructive.

    Regards.

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    Patrick - Would be good if you can illustrate by an example here so that we would know what to do. Thanks.
    Cool Hand Luke

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    Some additional info

    NATIONAL PUBLIC FORUM ON ENHANCING ROAD SAFETY, PREVENTING ROAD ACCIDENTS

    Co-Organized by ASLI & the Ministry of Transport Malaysia

    With the support of the Ministry of Works, Ministry of Entrepreneur Development & the Royal Malaysian Police


    Date: Tuesday 23 December 2003,
    Venue: Lagoon 2 Ballroom, Level 15, Sunway Lagoon Resort Hotel

    PROGRAMME

    (Venue: Opening Session will take place at Lagoon 2, Level 15, Sunway Lagoon Resort Hotel)

    10.30 am : Arrival of Participants.

    11.30 am : Arrival of YAB Dato’ Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, Prime Minister of Malaysia

    11.35 am : Welcome Remarks by Dato’ Dr. Michael Yeoh, Chief Executive Officer/Director, Asian Strategy & Leadership Institute (ASLI).

    11.40 am : Opening Address by YAB Dato’ Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, Prime Minister of Malaysia

    12.00 pm : Open Dialogue Session.

    13.00 pm : Refreshments (Venue: Lagoon 3, Level 15, Sunway Lagoon Resort Hotel)

    13.50 pm : Scene Setting Session “Status Report on Road Accidents and Fatalities in Malaysia”

    **Professor Ir. Dr. Radin Umar Radin Sohadi, Director, Road Safety Research Center, Faculty of Engineering, University Putra Malaysia

    14.25 pm : Special Address “The Role of Youth in Promoting Road Safety

    **YB Dato’ Hishammuddin Tun Hussein, Minister of Youth & Sports Malaysia

    15.00 am : Concurrent Workshops

    Each workshop will focus on different themes that have a great impact on road safety. At the end of each workshop, it is proposed that they come out with an action plan and recommendations that will promote more effective road safety.

    16.45 am : End of Workshops

    (Proceedings will take place at Lagoon 2, Level 15, Sunway Lagoon Resort Hotel)

    17.00 pm : Summary & Recommendations of Workshops

    Closing Address by YB Dato’ Chan Kong Choy, Minister of Transport Malaysia

    End of Forum
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    Workshop Outlines

    Workshop I: Education
    (Venue: Lagoon 2, Level 15, Sunway Lagoon Resort Hotel)

    This workshop will focus on the issues of Institutional Responsibility of Road Safety, the effectiveness of Publicity Programs, Driver Training, Testing and Licensing; Children's Traffic Education; Older Drivers’ Education, and the The Role of NGOs.

    Moderator:
    **YBhg Dato’ Zaharah ShaariSecretary-General, Ministry of Transport, Malaysia

    Paper Presenter:
    Representative from the National Road Safety Council

    Commentators:
    - YM Tunku Datuk Mudzaffar Tunku Mustapha, Chairman, Automobile Association of Malaysia
    **YBhg Datuk Abdul Rafie Bin Mahat, Director-General of Education, Ministry of Education Malaysia
    **YBhg. Tan Sri Dato' Lee Lam Thye, Chairman, National Institute of Occupational Safety & Health
    **Mr Er Sui See, President, Pan-Malaysia Lorry Owners' Association
    **YBhg Dato’ Ahmad A TalibGroup Editor, The New Straits Times Sdn Bhd


    Workshop II: Engineering
    (Venue: Cayman 1 & 2, Level 10, Sunway Lagoon Resort Hotel)
    This workshop will concentrate on Designing Roads to Improve Road Safety (Safety Engineering); Road Safety Audits; Data Systems and Analysis; Monitoring, Evaluation and Maintenance of roads.

    It will also deal with road safety improvement in the area of Vehicle design; Vehicle inspection and Motorcycle safety

    Moderator:
    **YBhg Dato' Izzuddin bin DaliSecretary-General, Ministry of Works Malaysia

    Paper Presenter:
    **YBhg Tan Sri Dato’ Ir Hj Zaini Bin Omar, Director-General of Public Works, Public Works Department Malaysia / President, Road Engineering Association of Malaysia - REAM.

    Commentators:
    - YBhg Dato' Idrose Mohamed Managing Director, PLUS Expressways Berhad
    **Tuan Hj Salamat Wahit, Chief Executive Officer, Pusat Pemeriksaan Kenderaan Berkomputer. (Puspakom)
    **YBhg Dato’ Ir George George, Director-General, Malaysian Highway Authority (MHA)
    **Representative from Local Government


    Workshop III: Enforcement
    (Venue: Cayman 3 & 4, Level 10, Sunway Lagoon Resort Hotel)
    This workshop will concentrate on Traffic Law and Enforcement; Vehicle Safety Standards and Inspection, Training of traffic police and Road Safety Research which aims to improve knowledge about factors contributing to road crashes, effects of different countermeasures, and development of new and more effective safety measures.

    It forms the framework of knowledge against which better policy and resource allocation decisions can be made to ensure most effective use of available resources.

    It will also focus on Pedestrian and non-motorized vehicle safety; Driving under influence of alcohol and drugs and Speed reduction.

    Moderator:
    **YBhg Dato’ Sri Aseh Che MatSecretary-General, Ministry of Home Affairs, Malaysia

    Paper Presenter:
    Representative from the Royal Malaysian Police

    Commentators:
    **YBhg Dato’ Sedek bin Mohd AliRoyal Malaysian Police
    **YBhg Dato' Hj Emran bin Hj Kadir, Director-General, Road Transport Department
    **Mr Alvin Choong, Secretary-General, Selangor and Kuala Lumpur Lorry Owners' Association
    **Representative from AG Chambers
    **Representative from LKPK(CLVB)


    ** Some role players are in the midst of confirming their attendance.

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    Request for example

    Cool Hand Luke, further to your comments.

    If you say, drivers of express buses are driving recklesely, then please make a suggestions on how to curb the situation. Perhaps you may suggest having a device to limit the speed, more speed traps etc, etc.

    Does that help?

    Rgds.

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    Hey folks! I dont believe it!! Amongst our so-called affluent SJ Community, not a single suggestion yet! Come one, we can do better than that !!

    Still not too late. We do look forward to your contributions.

    Rgds.

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    I think to make most of the reckless driver abide by the rule, issuing summons alone not enough. It can be made like if one accumulate more than 5 summons then they need to pay for themselve to attend a compulsory full day defensive driving class(and need to pass the test at end of class) + helping accident ward in local Hospital. Rationale behind this is because most ppl think they can get away if they got enough money to pay, but if it causes them their time and convenient then they will think twice.
    Do Unto Others

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    patrick - in the first place i don't understand why there is even a need for such a forum. if the police did their job there wouldn't be a need to talk. unfortunately they have been to relaxed, things have gone out of line and we're now one of the worst drivers on the planet.

    my suggestions... and i'm serious, i hope these help...

    1. stop the lazy policing -stricter police enforcement is necessary

    2. no tolerance for double parkers - send a cop around and book anyone who stops in anything that is not a parking space

    (look at bangsar for instance.... police station right at the bottom of the road but double parkers Everywhere... same for sri hartamas, tai pan, ss2, etc. etc.)

    3. more speed traps everywhere

    4. more breathalyser tests on weekends, and ladies' nights

    5. more penalties/ higher fines

    6. lorries - bi-annual/annual checks on all lorries. the lorries in malaysia can rival those in india.... i've seen so many of them with bald tyres, in one instance in fact the tyre exploded, flew across the highway and hit the wira on the far right lane. thank god the guy was alright. to my horror, i noticed the lorry slow down, the driver came out and started screaming at the wira driver. (?!)

    in italy, the tyres have a layer of red.... thus, once the tyre is worn out, the layer of red will become visible. (i.e. the layer is in the middle). the cops catch you and you/your employer are history.

    i can't believe in such a "developed" country, we employ such half dressed, foul mouthed shoddy drivers who themselves put up with the risk of falling out of the lorry - no two guesses, i'm talking about those flimsy wooden doors.

    7. pollution - lorries, buses and cars.... the first two notably pollute like crazy. why aren't they pulled off the road? aren't there any minimum standards?

    i'm sure no one would have mentioned pollution, but they are an aspect of road safety. notably if you take into account the carbon monoxide fumes that motorcyclists have to inhale.

    8. improve public transport - the better the public transport, the less cars. the more traffic improves. the less stress for those left on the road.

    9. BAN METROBUS. this i offer no compromise. as someone whose been in four metrobus accidents, i have to say they are HORRIBLE. they themselves contribute to a huge amount of accidents and problems on the road. how can they be a symbol of "public transport", approved by the government i presume, whilst they set the standards as being the crappiest and most dangerous bus service on the planet?

    ban them, ban them, ban them.

    10. better quality kap chai on the road. or less for that matter. why is it that other developed countries can survive without dodgy motorbikes? good public transport.

    kap chai bikes are dangerous. they cost lives.

    11. keep the kap chai on the kap chai lane. is it my imagination, or are more of them escaping and running loose on the federal highway? during jam times especially, some of the smart ones seem to think it's faster to try to race with the cars. they usually cut out to the highway before mid valley.

    12. discourage SUVs and 4WDs - higher road taxes, or force on a special licence. real killer road taxes so only timber bosses who need it for the jungle buy it, like RM 2.123 million a year.

    SUVs and 4WDs are bigger, and hence in an accident, it is more likely they will kill the pedestrian or the people in the kancil/kelisa. SUVs don't even offer any practical use, unlike the 4WD.

    SUV and 4WD drivers tend to be more aggressive on the road towards other drivers. malaysian mentality - bigger is better.

    what is the practical use for a lexus harrier anyway? it's just a big expensive piece of tin.

    13. introduce MMS in policing - in italy, it is extremely popular to take a picture of the offending driver in the act/crime, and MMS it to the police. PDRM should get an MMS number, one for crimes, another one for road offences.

    14. reality adverts - show advertisements of what happens when people don't wear seatbelts, drink and drive, or speed. shockers like that are necessary, and they do help.

    15. stop wasting time and money with workshops, start getting to the practical, common sense enforcement. no need to waste money on functions to get people to give basic feedback on what's going wrong. they are visible to any naked eye. if the guy in charge can't spot it, recommend me for his job. or saml for that matter.



    basically, you need to scare the living daylights out of malaysian drivers. to them signs on the road/laws are merely "suggestions".

    ///ej
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    I used to work in the Safety Department of a multi national oil company who has hundreds of road tankers plying on our highway and byway throughout the length and breath of our country everyday, and yet the number of accidents involving their tankers are very few. If at all any, in almost all cases the accidents are unpreventable (to the tanker drivers) caused by the other party or parties. This cannot be achieved if not due to the total top management commitment!

    1. Top Management Commitment

    a) Safety Policy
    This is a global policy, stating in the first place that all accidents are PREVENTABLE. Any incidents, or even POTENTIAL INCIDENT (incidents which have not even occured but have the potential to cause harm if no sufficient measures are taken to control them) are thoroughly investigated,and the investion team comprises a cross section of staff from senior management to the line supervisors, contractors, contractors' supervisors, the drivers, and even the relevant lowest rank employee. A series of actions are drawn up to ensure the incidents will not recur, or measures to prevent the potential incidents becoming an accident. Implementation of the corrective actions are tracked religiously by the senior management.

    b) If a accident happens involving personal injury/fatality/serious impact on environment, a board of inquiry is set up with a set time limit to complete the investigation. The departmental head under whose control the accident happens, and together with the line supervisor and the driver (if it is road accident), will be grilled by the Board, usually headed by the GM or even the MD. One will never like to face the Board (the Firing Squad) the second time! That's not the end of the story. Accident reports are sent to the multi national's head office overseas. There they will surmon the Malaysia's CEO to be present at yet another Firing Squad in the overseas headoffice. Can one imagine the CEO being grilled in the head office overseas!

    c) Safety/Occupational Health/Environment is taken as one of the performance criteria (just as important as business objectives) for every employee in the Company. There are individual targets and departmental targets, and peer pressure normally keeps everybody highly on his/her toes. Bonus payment is linked to the employee/department achieving these performance targets.

    2) Comprehensive training requirement/driver requirements

    a)Each heavy goods hevicle drivers (and all those who are required to travel on the road regularly for company business, e.g. sales force) go through stringent annual medical checkup.

    b) They go through very stringent training programs (conducted by accreditated trainers either in-house or outsourced). Not only that, they need to go through refresher cource one in so many years (usually 3). A driver is immediately suspended upon the occurence of an accident pending investigation and councilling.

    c) If an accident occurs, both the driver AND the tanker that he drives are suspended. This will cause a dent in the pocket of the contractor (if it is a contracted hired tanker). Therefore all contractors who sign up with this Oil Company is equally committed to safety performance. Serious accidents have resulted in some contractors losing their contracts!

    3) Monitoring the movements

    a) All road tankers are equipped with the "black box". Data are down loaded REGULARLY and reviewed by the supervisors. Actions are taken for infringements. Infact the black box is a very useful tracking tool for management to monitor the safety performance of their drivers. Other heavy goods vehicle owners of other industries are reluctant to install such device. This is, to me, tentamount to condoning the unsafe acts of their drivers. In a way they may want their trucks to speed to be able to run more trips, and make more money! Hence all excuses about the deficiencies of the black box are not true!

    b) Tankers operate 24 hours. The Company organizes on the road spot checks any time any where to make sure that their tankers are safe on the roads. Again these checks are carried NOT ONLY by low rank supervisors but top management personnel also participate. I myself had participated in 2am/3am checks at different locations. Of course we go out in a team comprising several people.

    4) Incentives

    It is very important to motivate drivers to work safely, and one of the most effective ways is to devise various types of incentives/profit sharing schemes.

    The above are just few examples of the initiatives the Company has implemented. It goes back to the basic principle, that is LEADERSHIP AND MANAGEMENT COMMITMENT.

    5) Law abiding

    The Company never condons any acts of bribing the enforcement authorities. They not only do not get reimbursement of the bribery money, but will get into troubles and face company disciplinary actions for offering bribes to the enforcement.

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    When I was paying summon a few months ago, I came across this rich guy who was paying for 20 summons (amount to few thousand), I manage to find out that he travel inter-state alot, so he speeds all the time at the highway to meetings, he told me that he is not worry about the summons, he is more worried if there is a point system which will take away his driving licence.

    So, I think the best way to start is to impose a point system on top of the summons (the police still have to cari makan) on all the road offences, including illegal parking nationwide.
    For example, 50points for reckless driving, 20points for illegal parking..etc, no discount given! make sure the system cannot be overide by any corrupted police or JPJ ppl
    than when the points are over 100 for that year, then your driving licence will be hang for 1st offence 1 month, 2nd offence 6 month, 3rd offence for life.

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    We can have all the first world tools to make a better driver out of us. You can have 12 inspections a year but if the enforcement is 3rd world then it would not make a hoot of a difference. Even the installation of the speed monitors in heavy vehicles was mired in corruption and when politicians interest (meaning$$$$) takes precedence over the actual usefulness of the systems, then you can be sure that it is going to be a big cock up. Even the speed cameras in Karak were a big farce. If you have public servants who are involved in the scheme, these becomes even more ****ty. Remember the so called 'licenses' issued by jpj to those who bought them. The licenses have to be legitimised since they were issued by the dept, never mind that people paid for them instead of going through tests. In effect we are legalizing a criminal act and that is but one of the many schemes thought up by enterprising businessmen who have the inside track to the government. That track can somehow be bought. Look at the new security ink issue. A new company stands to make tens of millions a year just by being the sole supplier of ink to sellers of beer and cigarettes. How it will solve the illegal (no tax paid) cigarettes and beer issue is beyond my comprehension. When a person consumes liquor or cigarettes will he keep the evidence for posterity waiting for the police to catch him?

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