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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryL View Post
    ....I'm not talking about feeder service. This problem can be solved by providing shuttle buses.

    I am talking about the hot and humid weather here....

    This is different in Singapore where you can find many trees along the road, and Singapore don't have a big housing estate like USJ/SJ, the bus stops/train station is not far from the nearest HBD housing estate.
    I wonder why people who suppose to moderate the forum don't read the content of other postings before adding his opinion..

    It is clear that I am referring to the weather here that deter us to have the walking culture (like what bslee explained about his Guangzhou's experience). Unless it is a covered walkway or underground, it is not conducive to walk here. I even mentioned why Singapore is still ok to walk because of the abundant of trees and the HBD flat estate is a much smaller neighborhood if compare to USJ/SJ, for example.


    p/s : The cities in Europe and Japan, for instance, had incorporated the mass transport system in their city planning where underground subway and commuter train are standard features in major cities and suburban towns outskirt the capital. There is no such underground thing here from day one and hence as what you can see - elevated structures are built on top of the main roads for mass transport system. Hope this help those people who like to talk about why London don't need feeder service ....
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    Truthfully, I've been cultured since young to walk long distances, even all day to anywhere and everywhere, no problem for me. I've been doing this since Std 1. Dad gave me 20 sen, go take bus, walk to school...he was tough on me, nevermind I was 7-10 years old. But then KL was a much safer place and less traffic than now. Guess what? much younger seemingly stronger young youths have gone out with me..blardi hell, they feel tired walking with me and they're 40 years my junior.. hehehe!
    Anyhow, the LRT is certainly a very very welcome transport to KL for me, since I go frequent trips to KL for seeking out my electronics or just hang around the city all day long.. I don't have to drive now..I loath driving to KL at this age..
    Anyway, I salute Hannah and gang for keeping tab on the LRT project and do what they can in the best interest of Subang folk. In the past, rakyat are merely to accept everything wholesome, lock stock barrel, nevermind all its flaws or inadequacies. They think they've done you the greatest deeds on earth and you're not to be ungrateful in any way.

    Quote Originally Posted by GaryL View Post
    I guess there is why everyone is different individual..
    Everyone or animal in this world is individual...there's no 2 alike.


    Sometimes, I can't help to suspect someone just like to brag about his experience in overseas. It is quite interesting to see people who claim about his experience elsewhere but can't see the difference between here and there. I guess there is why everyone is a different individual..
    Is there a need to say this?..no doubt you don't name anyone, but I think this is a very aloof and hurtful stance. If anyone like to share their past experience, so be it..there's nothing wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bslee View Post
    ....Is there a need to say this?..no doubt you don't name anyone, but I think this is a very aloof and hurtful stance. If anyone like to share their past experience, so be it..there's nothing wrong.
    I am not talking about you... I am referring to someone who keep on saying why London don't need feeder service... and you should be able to notice it from the 1st sentence of the post !!

    However, since you protest, I remove it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bslee View Post
    Is there a need to say this?..no doubt you don't name anyone, but I think this is a very aloof and hurtful stance. If anyone like to share their past experience, so be it..there's nothing wrong.
    BS Lee, this guy's character since his first posting has always been like that. He would not name the person he is ridiculing. While people pray in tongues, he posted in forked tongues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcyeoh View Post
    BS Lee, this guy's character since his first posting has always been like that. He would not name the person he is ridiculing. While people pray in tongues, he posted in forked tongues.
    I guess we just witness one demo from the above posting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryL View Post
    There is no such underground thing here from day one and hence as what you can see - elevated structures are built on top of the main roads for mass transport system. Hope this help those people who like to talk about why London don't need feeder service ....
    For your info a partial stretch of the Putra Kelana LRT line is underground for 5 stations from Pasar Seni station to Ampang Park.
    I had wished all train transit transport is all underground. Elevated structures just spoil the city scenery and charm. Look at Jalan Tun Perak, name systematically changed nevermind..it looks so congested and messy!
    If i'm not mistaken, most of GZH and SZH LRT is underground, the elevated stations are at the outer or greater part of the city, far away from city central.

    BSlee quote
    Everyone or animal in this world is individual...there's no 2 alike.

    Sorry about this, its MY words and reply. I can't edit old post due to 30min time limit. Will seek mod's help on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bslee View Post
    For your info a partial stretch of the Putra Kelana LRT line is underground for 5 stations from Pasar Seni station to Ampang Park. I had wished all train transit transport is all underground. Elevated structures just spoil the city scenery and charm. Look at Jalan Tun Perak, name systematically changed nevermind..it looks so congested and messy!
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    The key point here is underground station in cities. Land area in major cities is limited and therefore go underground is the only solution but this underground extension need to be an integral part of town planning. I don’t see it here, this is what I mean.


    Quote Originally Posted by bslee View Post
    ...If i'm not mistaken, most of GZH and SZH LRT is underground, the elevated stations are at the outer or greater part of the city, far away from city central.
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    Yes, if you go further from the town center of Guangzhou, subway is getting lesser and train stations are on the ground. Go even further, it is just like Selangor where feeder service is limited. I was posted to a petrochemical JV there last time where the location is like the West Port of Selangor. It is very inconvenient to go to town without a car.

    Underground subway system is an essential part to provide an efficient mass transport system in big cities. Having said that, not all mass transport system in major cities in Europe is underground. In Zurich (although Zurich is among the biggest cities in Switzerland), there is no underground subway because of the small population, The mass transport is electric tram and bus service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryL View Post
    The key point here is underground station in cities. Land area in major cities is limited and therefore go underground is the only solution but this underground extension need to be an integral part of town planning....
    Underground station is a very costly and tedious construction especially in an established and densely populated area. Therefore, it is always a deterrent to most projects which is not only about monies but involvement of others that need lots of planning.

    Following 3-minute video by Singapore LTA (Land Transport Authority) shows how an underground station was built under an area with roads above. This happens to most of our MRT stations in Singapore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HTCHONG View Post
    Underground station is a very costly and tedious construction especially in an established and densely populated area. Therefore, it is always a deterrent to most projects which is not only about monies but involvement of others that need lots of planning...
    Ya, it is a huge engineering challenge to construct subsurface structure..

    Imagine London has started to build underground railway like more than 100 years ago, without the modern machinery and technology now... !!

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    Tunneling and underground works have been going on since Egyptian civilization era in BC... its just the matter of manpower and huge cost. Its just too expensive in Malaysia for such favorable projects. Goes back to the saying, nothing is now cheap in producing anything in Malaysia. Our labor is so expensive that we have to depend on cheap foreign labor...its all too obvious. Even then, foreign labor cost is also on the increase. If anything was favorable in this land, those multinational factories would have stayed here much longer. If they underground the LRT, then fares start from RM10...its going to cause concern. I was just looking at the LRT fare table just now..From Taipan to Masjid Jamek KL, RM3.20 (cashless)
    RM3.60(token). Its RM3.80 (cashless) from Taipan to Pudu (my Jalan Pudu Pasar trip). OK..fair enough! Previously I had to park car at Amcorp Mall, thereon by LRT and back, Rm3(parking) + RM3.50 X 2way return.. not a cheap trip. If I drive and park at JP, 80sen per hour parking on roadside, I would be there for few hours. Yes, its 80sen/hr!..previously 60 sen. Price increased.

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    Good morning folks! Is there any free rides for the new extension like for a month? If there is free rides for the extension, at which stations do the charge starts? What's the fare like? Thank you and have a great day!
    lbn

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbn View Post
    Good morning folks! Is there any free rides for the new extension like for a month? If there is free rides for the extension, at which stations do the charge starts? What's the fare like? Thank you and have a great day!
    I don't think there are free rides. My friend took it to work on day 1. She paid for the trip.

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    Prasarana knowing the demographic profile of this community did not offer any free ride. They know we can afford the fare. However, they know that they have shortchanged us when they failed to provide adequate parking lots. So they want to make amend by offering us one month free parking at any of the 2200 parking bays available along this new extension. To you lbn, you can go and park your car at USJ 21 near Main Place. I know you will laugh as where you stay, you might as well walk to the Taipan Station.

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    Last night I went to buy dinner at Tien Tien Fatt coffeeshop at Goodyear Court 5 which is next to the Taipan LRT station. The limited parking bays were all full. Before the LRT became operationable, I have no difficulty in parking my car there. I believe this situation occurs along the line and the residents are on wit's end how to deal with the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcyeoh View Post
    The limited parking bays were all full. Before the LRT became operationable, I have no difficulty in parking my car there. I believe this situation occurs along the line and the residents are on wit's end how to deal with the situation.
    It will only get worse There is only this much space.

    What about student cards? Someone told me that discounted fares for students are only applicable for rides from USJ to Pasar Seni? Is that true? If so, what is so special about Pasar Seni?

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