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    Ching Ming - cleaning the grave before actual date

    Increasingly hard to pay respects on actual day, I try to go on weekends only,how many of you also don't go on the actual date? I always feel a bit guilty not going on actual date, why? It is more pragmatic to do on a weekend. Any comments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mat Bruce View Post
    Increasingly hard to pay respects on actual day, I try to go on weekends only,how many of you also don't go on the actual date? I always feel a bit guilty not going on actual date, why? It is more pragmatic to do on a weekend. Any comments?
    For me, maybe I'm minority..its anytime I feel obliged to go, I'll go.. I don't and won't follow culture or trend in this era.. just hate traffic jams and lots of other people doing the same thing. Getting stuck in traffic costs money. I don't have money to waste. No time?..create the time. I will only visit my mom/dad's grave at PJ..I ensured they're buried in the same grave, morever nearby so I can visit anytime I like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bslee View Post
    For me, maybe I'm minority..its anytime I feel obliged to go, I'll go.. I don't and won't follow culture or trend in this era.. just hate traffic jams and lots of other people doing the same thing. Getting stuck in traffic costs money. I don't have money to waste. No time?..create the time. I will only visit my mom/dad's grave at PJ..I ensured they're buried in the same grave, morever nearby so I can visit anytime I like.
    I pay respect to mum 1 month ago in Seminyih as my sisters overseas came back but dad's one just last week in different place.Last year when we pay respect to dad a week before Ching Ming his tombstone fell on the ground. Had to dig a hole to plant it back.Last my family suggest we rebuilt a nice one but the contractor told us to furnish all our personal details of date of birth so that he can find a auspicious date to start work. Find it difficult to pair up the date ,I went up to the graveyard to rebuilt it myself. Save money.Last week we went there the stone was intact.Syabas!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jan tomaswaki View Post
    Save money.Last week we went there the stone was intact.Syabas!!!
    Wah?...auspicious date summore.. sorry, me never follow such belief and trend. I thought they're like any construction contracted to do a job, pure and simple...just do it! to. Maybe my mindset is now cultured never to follow tradition or auspicious dates. When we leave this world someday, its not likely on some auspicious day.
    Life is supposed to be practical, simple and never squandered where able. I'm not denying nor offend anyone else who may insist following certain beliefs.
    Good job saving some cost..now u can belanja me dinner..LOL!...

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    I am not sure of the tradition....but I did my part in Sabah on the 27th March 2016.

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    Lee,I think along the same line as you but when mention gather all families details and if you tidak apa,something not good happen to your family members how to answer? Just like pregnant mum ,cannot nail the wall, pantang this pantang that .Confinement must eat lots of ginger to rid the wind .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jan tomaswaki View Post
    Lee,I think along the same line as you but when mention gather all families details and if you tidak apa,something not good happen to your family members how to answer? Just like pregnant mum ,cannot nail the wall, pantang this pantang that .Confinement must eat lots of ginger to rid the wind .
    I could tell them straight in the face!... Well!..people once prayed to the moon. Sometime in July 69, man landed on the moon to find nothing spectacular except the view...Forget the sun.. anyone land there won't live to tell.
    How come here only got toyol?... Europe and USA never heard such thing? Man invent mysteries..the world didn't expose it.

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    Although Cheng Beng falls on 4th April, which is a Monday this year, from what I was told, visitation to the graveyards can be made 10 days before and 10 days after this date for the convenience of many. However, for those whose loved ones died during the last 3 years, it is a must to visit their loved ones' graves on Cheng Beng Day itself. Though I am a Christian but born a Chinese, I believe this tradition is a good thing as it creates a bonding among surviving family members to gather at the graves to reminisce the good times they once had with those who passed away. Of course there is no hard and fast rules that one can only do this during Cheng Beng. But I abhor those who think they can do so online as they are making a mockery of this tradition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bslee View Post
    Forget the sun.. anyone land there won't live to tell.
    I heard when Samy Vellu was told that it was just impossible to land a person on the Sun because of the intensed heat, he argued back, "you think I am stupid. Of course I will submit my working papers to our beloved PM that we go there at night."

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    Being Christian, having left Taoism (traditional non-buddhist religious practice of local Chinese), family members do not partake in burning of joss-sticks and other prayer materials. But with our ancestral-based culture, they will still pay their respects to their deceased family members. For some, especially those who have burial plots, they could make Cheng Beng a picnic session at the gravesite. This being more possible with the more modern gravesites managed by memorial companies. It is a time for all to gather and use the time for fellowship and bonding. This is a really nice practice and maintains our extended family relationships. For those families not willing to suffer the crush of the actual day, some even go as early as 3 weeks before the actual day

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcyeoh View Post
    ...... I believe this tradition is a good thing as it creates a bonding among surviving family members to gather at the graves to reminisce the good times they once had with those who passed away......
    Well said.

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    [QUOTE=Jennylim;600954]Well said.[/QUOT

    Agreed with you..........

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    Came across this article today.. wonder who's idea and are they sure its appropriate?
    http://www.thestar.com.my/news/natio...e-of-netizens/

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    Quote Originally Posted by bslee View Post
    Came across this article today.. wonder who's idea and are they sure its appropriate?
    http://www.thestar.com.my/news/natio...e-of-netizens/
    Hehehehe, good news to some of the departed.

    I think in life, there are many types of people, some are holy, some are crooks, some do no wrong, some are the opposite, some are nite-clubs goers, some are good dancers, some this, some that, you name them.

    You burnt billions of hell money, merc, mobiles, houses, servants, expensive clothings, watches etc, etc, for what?

    For the departed to play mahjong, enjoy life in the other world, right?

    Now let's think of the poor departed nite-clubs goers, surely they also missed them.

    I say most nite clubs goers are good people who appreciate what they see that are provided by The Great Almighty.

    If you can burnt Trillions of Hell Money, servants etc, you can also burnt dancing girls, etc, etc.

    But then some smart & modern ones go to the next level, they provide live dancers.

    I see no wrong.

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    Qing Ming is a Chinese culture. One needs to know and understand this practice. It has nothing to do with religion. Chinese stressed on filial piety to our parents and elders. Of course, it's best to show this when our parents are alive. Qing Ming is a tool to gather the siblings and their families to show gratitude to their parents who has passed away. This also reinforced the kinship with all the families. Definitely good for the family tree. If you understand the significance of Qing Ming, then whatever others do or happens is insignificant. Just be happy and don't worry!
    lbn

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