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    Quote Originally Posted by gtl View Post
    estima......
    Thanks…

    I think the 19” is a bigger size than the original Estima spec..

    I guess you are looking for better handling..

    I reckon you fuel consumption is higher with wider tyre..

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    I'm believing the local tyre industry is a gahmen protected industry as much as protection is given to other industries from rice imports to auto assembly. I'm reckoning that local car battery industry is also protected for a long time now.
    Perhaps thats why tyre prices in this land can always be on the rise but not the other way. If I'm right, I'm thinking the protection looks like everlasting. Consumers have to cough out whatever the manufacturers dictate and imported tyres are still cheaper across the causeway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiga View Post
    Thanks…

    I think the 19” is a bigger size than the original Estima spec..

    I guess you are looking for better handling..

    I reckon you fuel consumption is higher with wider tyre..

    Cheers
    you r right, i was also looking for a different look beside improved handling.
    the fuel consumption went up from 9.6 km/litre to 9.5 km/litre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bslee View Post
    I'm believing the local tyre industry is a gahmen protected industry as much as protection is given to other industries from rice imports to auto assembly. I'm reckoning that local car battery industry is also protected for a long time now.
    Perhaps thats why tyre prices in this land can always be on the rise but not the other way. If I'm right, I'm thinking the protection looks like everlasting. Consumers have to cough out whatever the manufacturers dictate and imported tyres are still cheaper across the causeway?
    Due to strong purchasing power of SGD and the lower tax in Singapore, almost all IMPORTED items are cheaper in Singapore...

    It won't change as far as the Ringgit is weak...

    But unfortunately price tag is not the only considerations when purchasing an item..

    The ease of after-sales service, the warranty coverage (like handphone and other digital and entertainment gadgets) limit the choice..

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    New VW-Beetle is coming soon this Sept. It look more manly compare to the current one(too roundish). Do check it out. Price wise..i heard gonna be RM130K & RM160K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyay View Post
    .... A 1.2 Polo TSi can challenge 1.8 Altis anytime..
    Really !!

    A 1.2 turbocharged Polo Tsi : max power is 77kw, and max torque is 175Nm

    A 1.8 Toyota Altis : max power is 103kw, and max torque is 173Nm

    Tell me how a 77kw car challenge a 103kw anytime ???

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    A quick and rough research shows Polo having 98bhp/tonne power to weight ratio, Altis having 105bhp/tonne (depending on actual model and state of tune) despite that 600cc difference.
    On paper the Altis seems to have a slight edge and Polo is marginally lower. But all this will also depend on other mechanical design elements for real time performance.
    Claimed Bhp or Kw power isn't always a definitive specification on performance differences, unless the engine power difference is very much larger.

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    The diff is, for Polo the max torque starts to kick in from 1500rpm where as altis reaches max at 4000rpm

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeeJay View Post
    The diff is, for Polo the max torque starts to kick in from 1500rpm where as altis reaches max at 4000rpm
    I used to sell cars. One day a customer walked in and read the brochure. I asked him whether he wants to test drive the car and he said it is not necessary... your car is underpowered. How do you know, I asked him. He said by noting the gear ratio, weight of the car, and the power available and all these are in the brochure. So, all he needed were 3 information: gear ratio, weight, and power. Smart chap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiga View Post
    Really !!

    A 1.2 turbocharged Polo Tsi : max power is 77kw, and max torque is 175Nm

    A 1.8 Toyota Altis : max power is 103kw, and max torque is 173Nm

    Tell me how a 77kw car challenge a 103kw anytime ???

    I also don't know what happened technically. I only tried pushing both the car to test it.
    You can check out the 0-100km/h comparison. Altis is around 11second while Polo is 9.7 second. Paultan say it is due to the "TURBO"
    Tried Golf-GTi recently...and it is AWESOME.

    Have you driven any of it? Try it and come share with us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyay View Post
    I also don't know what happened technically. I only tried pushing both the car to test it.
    You can check out the 0-100km/h comparison. Altis is around 11second while Polo is 9.7 second. Paultan say it is due to the "TURBO"
    Tried Golf-GTi recently...and it is AWESOME.

    Have you driven any of it? Try it and come share with us.
    Yup, it is due to turbocharger.
    No way a 1.2 naturally aspirated engine can match a 1.8 engine without the help of dense compressed air from a turbo.

    No, I have not driven other VW except Passat..

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeeJay View Post
    The diff is, for Polo the max torque starts to kick in from 1500rpm where as altis reaches max at 4000rpm
    I don't think this is the reason..

    No matter when the turbo kick in, the max is still 77kw vs 103kw of Altis..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bslee View Post
    A quick and rough research shows Polo having 98bhp/tonne power to weight ratio, Altis having 105bhp/tonne (depending on actual model and state of tune) despite that 600cc difference.
    On paper the Altis seems to have a slight edge and Polo is marginally lower. But all this will also depend on other mechanical design elements for real time performance.
    Claimed Bhp or Kw power isn't always a definitive specification on performance differences, unless the engine power difference is very much larger.
    Yup, this is true..

    The extra 600cc engine displacement which generate extra 26kw (relative to the 1.2 Polo) has been hugely offset by the higher kerb weight of Altis...

    Nevertheless, the 1.8 Altis still has an edge over the Polo..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiga View Post
    Yup, this is true..

    The extra 600cc engine displacement which generate extra 26kw (relative to the 1.2 Polo) has been hugely offset by the higher kerb weight of Altis...

    Nevertheless, the 1.8 Altis still has an edge over the Polo..

    Anyway, it is totally diff segment. I am just referring to the speed.
    Passat TSI is even more powerful. You can accelerate from 0 to 200km/h without much hesitation. The feeling from these VW is so diff compared to Jap. Thanks to the current pricing, finally owning a German car is possible without bleeding too badly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiga View Post
    I don't think this is the reason..

    No matter when the turbo kick in, the max is still 77kw vs 103kw of Altis..
    Polo would reach that power at 1500rpm whereas Altis would only reach it at 4000rpm. Polo would be long gone, before you try to catch it. But on a top speed altis has a better edge.

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