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Old 21-01-2010, 11:27 AM
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I think you are right...was just talking about the increased traffic these couple of weeks and conclusion was this happens every year before CNY.
Probably due to more salesmen onthe road trying to close sales or chase sales before CNY. And also to collect money from debtors...otherwise no bonus mah.




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Yes,more ppl are moving to Putra Hts,No there are leeser students in L/Hung.But the main problem these two weeks jam are because Gong Xi Fai Cai is coming
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Old 21-01-2010, 11:50 AM
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I know you are referring to peak hour traffic. Yes, everyone going to the same place at the same time is the main problem.

However, out of these 2 peak periods, do you notice that there are still jams in town? Get on the road networks after 12 noon - in KL, there are still a lot of cars on the roads in certain places. What are the people doing on the road? They aren't in office ... they are out of the office.

Fortunately, the population in the Klang Valley (3 million?) isn't anywhere near the population of Bangkok (more than 10 million?). Otherwise we would have a perpetual grid-lock on our roads (just like in Bangkok?)


I often ask myself why people are on the road!
I am lucky as i can time my infrequent trips to KL during off peak hours, and i find the smart tunnel is a real help.
I can normally set local appointments so that i leave home after 10am, and miss the jam.
If i need to be in Singapore, i leave about 5.30am and am in Singapore by 9am, no traffic anywhere.
So i consider myself an example that individuals can make a difference to traffic, if they are allowed to.

I still think that more people could work from home to help the situation. Assuming they actually stay home and work!
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Old 21-01-2010, 12:51 PM
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Unhappy Caused by parents sending children to school from outside Subang Jaya

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I often ask myself why people are on the road!


Have you ever seen the number of cars lined up outside every school in the morning, afternoon and evening? It is simply incredible. These parents are causing the most jam in Subang Jaya. Just see the difference during the school holidays and you will know.

Many children come from Shah Alam, Putra Heights, Puchong, Desaria. Kota Kemuning to the schools here. Not only are they causing so much traffic here but they are overcrowding the schools here.

Perhaps an enforcement should take place like that in the UK or Australia. Schools should get parents to produce their utility bills to show that they are really staying in the Subang Jaya area before applying for schools here. In fact I feel USJ residents should just send their children in USJ and Subang Jaya SS residents should send their children to their respective areas only. I know of so many children from USJ sending their children to Lick Hung and Subang Jaya, SS to Chee Wen. There are over 2000 students in each of those schools. Just imagine the jam they cause.

Lastly, I don't know why the Ministry is simply keeps approving of these students from outside Subang Jaya to study in these school.
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Old 21-01-2010, 12:56 PM
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You should not blame the parents...you think they wan to send their kids so far away? And get caught inthe jam too?

Ask the govt why they dont approve more Chinese schools when there is such great demand...building more Chinese schools would solve the problem....

Dont blame the Minsitry for approving the students from outside Subang/ USJ, blame them for not allowing more schools to be built in their areas!!!


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Have you ever seen the number of cars lined up outside every school in the morning, afternoon and evening? It is simply incredible. These parents are causing the most jam in Subang Jaya. Just see the difference during the school holidays and you will know.

Many children come from Shah Alam, Putra Heights, Puchong, Desaria. Kota Kemuning to the schools here. Not only are they causing so much traffic here but they are overcrowding the schools here.

Perhaps an enforcement should take place like that in the UK or Australia. Schools should get parents to produce their utility bills to show that they are really staying in the Subang Jaya area before applying for schools here. In fact I feel USJ residents should just send their children in USJ and Subang Jaya SS residents should send their children to their respective areas only. I know of so many children from USJ sending their children to Lick Hung and Subang Jaya, SS to Chee Wen. There are over 2000 students in each of those schools. Just imagine the jam they cause.

Lastly, I don't know why the Ministry is simply keeps approving of these students from outside Subang Jaya to study in these school.
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Old 21-01-2010, 02:56 PM
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You should not blame the parents...you think they wan to send their kids so far away? And get caught inthe jam too?

Ask the govt why they dont approve more Chinese schools when there is such great demand...building more Chinese schools would solve the problem....

Dont blame the Minsitry for approving the students from outside Subang/ USJ, blame them for not allowing more schools to be built in their areas!!!


All I am saying is those interested in Mandarin schools staying in USJ should send their children to Chee Wen or Tun Tan Cheng Lock schools and those in Subang Jaya, SS should send their kids to Lick Hung.

Those who are staying far off shouldn't flood the Subang area and cause so much traffic jam. They should work with their community to build their own school just like how Chee Wen did. When the pressure is high the Ministry will relent. Chee Wen did an excellent job in canvassing to get their school from the community, they even had banners in Taipan.

If that doesn't work, hire a Mandarin teacher to teach in your homes. I am sure you can get lots of children who will go for these classes. There is always a solution out there but we have to work around to get what we want.

If everyone plays their part the traffic jam will be less and less people will be stressful, and hospitals will not be so full. UK and Australia are light years ahead of us in this matter.

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Old 21-01-2010, 05:56 PM
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it's easy for you in subang where most schools are well established.

where got schools in PH?
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Old 21-01-2010, 06:12 PM
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it's easy for you in subang where most schools are well established.

where got schools in PH?


Just go to the nearest school - Sekolah Kebangsaan USJ 20, Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan USJ 23, less traffic.
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Old 21-01-2010, 06:29 PM
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Just go to the nearest school - Sekolah Kebangsaan USJ 20, Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan USJ 23, less traffic.


Ahh..

I get it. As long as it's not in Subang
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Old 21-01-2010, 06:38 PM
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Have you ever seen the number of cars lined up outside every school in the morning, afternoon and evening? It is simply incredible. These parents are causing the most jam in Subang Jaya. Just see the difference during the school holidays and you will know.

Many children come from Shah Alam, Putra Heights, Puchong, Desaria. Kota Kemuning to the schools here. Not only are they causing so much traffic here but they are overcrowding the schools here.

Perhaps an enforcement should take place like that in the UK or Australia. Schools should get parents to produce their utility bills to show that they are really staying in the Subang Jaya area before applying for schools here. In fact I feel USJ residents should just send their children in USJ and Subang Jaya SS residents should send their children to their respective areas only. I know of so many children from USJ sending their children to Lick Hung and Subang Jaya, SS to Chee Wen. There are over 2000 students in each of those schools. Just imagine the jam they cause.

Lastly, I don't know why the Ministry is simply keeps approving of these students from outside Subang Jaya to study in these school.


I watch the jam while i eat my breakfast, sometimes i watch the jam if i have a drink in the afternoon.
What really annoys me is the morons who take shortcuts in the wrong direction (turn left after 99) and those who have to wait outside the school until their kids are out of sight before driving off (after the kids are through the gate).

Surely some smart school official can workout a good system for loading and unloading?
How about designating gates by age for loading/unloading? Have 4 std 6 kids at each gate, 2 cars pull up, 2 std 6 kids step forward, each open a car door, young kids get out, the other 2 std 6 kids take school bags. Repeat process until no more cars. Have a teacher at each gate to monitor and keep order.
The road is wide enough for two lanes of cars, inside lane for unloading, outide lane for driving to or from the gate.
Or just have 2 lanes of cars unloading with a teacher or guard controlling traffic at each gate.
It would work if people want it to work.

If the traffic light at 19/6 allowed right turns, and the lane by 99 had its direction reversed for a few hours each day, that would give people a choice of two easy exits from the area, turn left at Shell or right at 99. This way you could have three lanes of cars turning left while the green light is on for right turns.
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Old 21-01-2010, 06:44 PM
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Ahh..

I get it. As long as it's not in Subang


What was the intended class size?
Subang residents get seats first, any seats left are up for grabs.
Why have kids wake up before they need to or waste time in a car if there is a school closer to home?
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Old 21-01-2010, 07:51 PM
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it's easy for you in subang where most schools are well established.

where got schools in PH?


BTW, I have highlighted lack of schools in Putra Heights to our MP, Loh Gwo Burne and ADUN, Hannah Yeoh. Hopefully the MP will do something about it.
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Old 21-01-2010, 08:07 PM
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Surely some smart school official can workout a good system for loading and unloading?
How about designating gates by age for loading/unloading? Have 4 std 6 kids at each gate, 2 cars pull up, 2 std 6 kids step forward, each open a car door, young kids get out, the other 2 std 6 kids take school bags. Repeat process until no more cars. Have a teacher at each gate to monitor and keep order.
The road is wide enough for two lanes of cars, inside lane for unloading, outide lane for driving to or from the gate.
Or just have 2 lanes of cars unloading with a teacher or guard controlling traffic at each gate.
It would work if people want it to work.


What if the Std 6 child is also being transported in the same car, then the car needs to wait till the Std 6 child finishes his duty...

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If the traffic light at 19/6 allowed right turns, and the lane by 99 had its direction reversed for a few hours each day, that would give people a choice of two easy exits from the area, turn left at Shell or right at 99. This way you could have three lanes of cars turning left while the green light is on for right turns.


Good suggestion, the MPSJ should study if this is a workable solution. Hope Rajiv can bring this up to MPSJ. I will post it under Rajiv's thread.
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Old 21-01-2010, 09:08 PM
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haha somehow the discussion on traffic jam has evolved to school and the schooling system. all good though. very good insights and suggestions.
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Old 21-01-2010, 09:41 PM
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What if the Std 6 child is also being transported in the same car, then the car needs to wait till the Std 6 child finishes his duty...


Maybe using the std 6 kids is not so smart, or there could be a rota and the kid of the day says "Mom i am on gate duty today so pick me up later"

How many guards are there at the school, enough to make something like this work?

Or is it best to work out how to get cars into the area slowly and out of the area fast? Like put cones up at the corner before school so cars enter the school area in single file and exit in two directions as i suggested earlier?
One school guard at the cones should be enough, and a large sign thats says "No horn or cutting in, be quiet and patient"
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Old 21-01-2010, 10:24 PM
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Maybe using the std 6 kids is not so smart, or there could be a rota and the kid of the day says "Mom i am on gate duty today so pick me up later"


Most times the Std 6 kid will have his sibling in another class and the mom will have still have to wait. Best if the drivers help the kids put the bags in the car. Most drivers do that. Just have to get all of them to do that, I suppose.

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Or is it best to work out how to get cars into the area slowly and out of the area fast? Like put cones up at the corner before school so cars enter the school area in single file and exit in two directions as i suggested earlier?
One school guard at the cones should be enough, and a large sign thats says "No horn or cutting in, be quiet and patient"



Good one, I will post this under the e-Communities:Education:Lick Hung thread as well. Hopefully the parents there will work on this.
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