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    Has anyone thought of setting up a signature booth at MPSJ on Monday to collect signatures while the MPSJ / developers meeting is taking place? Or distribute flyers out to that effect? We could probably get some signifant no. of signatures that day...
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    Logic tells me that doing anything in the MPSJ premises requires their permission. Do you like being thrown out of the gate?

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    Heard that the meeting has been postponed.........

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    Looks like the other side has upped their propaganda campaign. A small group of people were spotted in USJ6 talking to people (especially those buying food for buka puasa). They were proponents for the building of the flyover, and were propagating the 'good' it will bring to the community. They were passing leaflets as well.

    I did not take one, I did not have to. When I came home I found one in my postbox.


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    They conveniently forget about the safety issue of the 2 schools at USJ12, the existing heavy traffic in Persiaran Jubli Perak and the Persiaran Tujuan. What some people will do just for money and personal benefit.

    Well, they have their developer to bankroll their campaign. I suppose when a child is involved in an accident, only then will everyone stop to think, by then it will be too late. Some would have already laughed all the way to the Bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mackzulkifli
    They were proponents for the building of the flyover, and were propagating the 'good' it will bring to the community.
    Yes folks of this community, you better wake up from your slumberland. While you are alseep, these people are hookwinking our folks. They are stooping so low as to tell a blantant lies after lies about this "feel good feeling" about this flyover.

    Blantant Lie No 1- New Subang exit to Shah Alam, KLIA and Klang.
    How can this proposed exit be better than the ones we already have. I go to these 3 places and the current exits serve me perfectly well. I can go to KLIA via Jalan Kewajipan out through the USJ exit at the North South Link without much problem. To Shah Alam and Klang, I use the KESAS at Summit though it may be a bit of a jam. At least these are direct routes. Now, if I were to use the proposed new link, not only is it longer but I will end up at Subang Hi Tech at the two tunnels and from there it is not only going out through a maze of narrow roads but I have to fight for space with the infamous Subang Hi Tech-Central Sugar chaotic traffic. I will be even too late to catch the slow boat to China. If the roads here are so great, why are the folks in Subang Heights not using them? They are so 'generous' to invite you to share their pains there.


    Blantant Lie No 2 - Specially for cars only. No lorries and industrial vehicles.
    How on earth and blantant can they be? Show me a highway that are exclusively built for cars only? How is MPSJ going to prevent heavy vehicles from using the link road? Putting a gantry across a main road is not only illegal but also suicidal. I have travelled the length and breadth of the country and I have yet to see a gantry being placed across a busy main road. The reason why they stoop so low to tell this lie is to get our mindshare that this link is good for us. But don't bite the bait. Once the link is up, they are going to tell you a sad story to make you cry - sorry folks, JKR and JPJ say No Gantry across the main road. Story ends and you teh lampa if you still have them. In the first you have lost them when you say Yes to the Link.


    Blantant Lie No 3 - More business opportunity for the Subang Jaya/USJ community
    Ah maybe this one have some truth in it but my friend, it doesn't augur well for you and me. More business opportunities means more traffic coming into our community and more traffic jam, triple parking, honking, screaming, noise, pollution and like all bad things come in pairs - more crime. Do you want all these compliment from Subang Heights?


    Blantant Lie No 4 - It provides alternative access to Shah Alam, Klang, KLIA, Guthrie Corridor, Kota Kemuning etc thereby better connectivity
    Ah maybe this one have more truth in it. I must say sorry to them and thank them for pointing this out to us. But friends, are we having a Visit Subang Jaya/USJ Year campaign that we are inviting traffic from all these areas into our community? If we can go there so can they come here. Just imagine the mother of all traffic jam happening right at your door steps.

    Blantant Lie No 5 - It will reduce traffic jam in Subang Jaya and USJ
    Now if this is not a lie, tell me which is. You will be shocked to know that almost all out going traffic are heading towards Kuala Lumpur. If this KL bound traffic is not going to use the proposed link due to Blantant Lie No 1, then with more incoming traffic from Blantant Lie No 2-4, they are telling us that it will reduce traffic jam. Are they thinking that we were just borned yesterday? Come on. But there is one truth they are not telling us inspite of all the 5 lies they are bombarding us. They never say anything in fact they remain completely silent about the 2,700 school children who need to use the Persiaran Setia everyday to commute to school. Kids who are cycling and 6 years old who are walking on roads with completely no pedestrian walkway. Hundreds are dicing with their lives dashing across the road without any pedestrian bridge in sight. How could these people think of money money and money without a simple thought to these young children? Don't you think you should say NO to them instead and ask them to get lost for telling all these dirty lies to you. Think about that before you sign your children's lives away.

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    Blantant Lie No 2 - Specially for cars only. No lorries and industrial vehicles.
    How on earth and blantant can they be? Show me a highway that are exclusively built for cars only? How is MPSJ going to prevent heavy vehicles from using the link road? Putting a gantry across a main road is not only illegal but also suicidal. I have travelled the length and breadth of the country and I have yet to see a gantry being placed across a busy main road. The reason why they stoop so low to tell this lie is to get our mindshare that this link is good for us. But don't bite the bait. Once the link is up, they are going to tell you a sad story to make you cry - sorry folks, JKR and JPJ say No Gantry across the main road. Story ends and you teh lampa if you still have them. In the first you have lost them when you say Yes to the Link.


    Err...when heavier vehicles such as...the school/factory buses...utility service trucks...n emergency service vehicles...would DEFINITELY be using this flyover link...there is NO WAY...they can stop ANY commercial vehicles from using it as well...

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    Blantant Lie No 3 - More business opportunity for the Subang Jaya/USJ community.
    Ah maybe this one have some truth in it but my friend, it doesn't augur well for you and me. More business opportunities means more traffic coming into our community and more traffic jam, triple parking, honking, screaming, noise, pollution and like all bad things come in pairs - more crime. Do you want all these compliment from Subang Heights?


    Err...more often than not...folks would say...the truth hurts...how true is it?

    Err...Orchi was told that...ahem...having the lack of accessibility n being located so close n next to many foul smelling...noisy...congested...n probably toxic fuming...heavy industrial factories...that piece of land across the expressway was previously RE-Converted(miraculously) n earmarked for a certain 'doomed' bungalow housing development...err...from the very beginning...?

    Ahem...how it gotten 'exchanged hands' later...with ties to Berjaya group could be another matter altogether which...err...Orchi fails to see any need or relevance to mentioned it here...though

    Err...n the way Orchi fails to see it also...the Flyover linking the bungalows housing development to USJ3ABCD...would be the ONLY hope to the possibility that...any of the 300 or so...investors(who could be feeling short changed by MUCH since) would seek out...any daylight or fresh air...at THIS END of that stinking tunnel...?

    Ahem...in the first place...the price for that piece of good for nothing else land...was 'dirt cheap' under those circumstances...by comparison ...to the developer there...BUT then again...any smarter house buyers would have realised by NOW(otherwise Orchi would be a bigger fool)...that the costs to build the proposed n so called DO or DIE Flyover across to this end of the greener pasture...would have already been 'included' or 'taken care of' by the end purchase prices of those individually 'crafted' bungalow lots...?

    Err...similarly...the BIG developer boys over at this end of the greener pasture...could also have 'some leftover' land(unproductive existing crops) next to that piece of 'doomed' land...that they too...could one day explore further for 'future' possibility...by having to agree also to 'share' the construction costs of the so called...DO or DIE Flyover...?

    Ahem...so when the stakes would DEFINITELY be soaring Mightly HIGH...'the parties concerned' would inevitably be willing to expense ALL possible means also...DO or DIE...to attempt for what they want...err...wouldn't any of you say so too...???
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    Blantant Lie No 1- New Subang exit to Shah Alam, KLIA and Klang.
    How can this proposed exit be better than the ones we already have. I go to these 3 places and the current exits serve me perfectly well. I can go to KLIA via Jalan Kewajipan out through the USJ exit at the North South Link without much problem. To Shah Alam and Klang, I use the KESAS at Summit though it may be a bit of a jam. At least these are direct routes. Now, if I were to use the proposed new link, not only is it longer but I will end up at Subang Hi Tech at the two tunnels and from there it is not only going out through a maze of narrow roads but I have to fight for space with the infamous Subang Hi Tech-Central Sugar chaotic traffic. I will be even too late to catch the slow boat to China. If the roads here are so great, why are the folks in Subang Heights not using them? They are so 'generous' to invite you to share their pains there.



    This is the tunnel they are asking USJ residents to use for exit whilst they themselves do not want to use it and prefer to cross a flyover to our side. What gives?
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    My Dear neighbours, as you have gathered from the flurry of emails into this thread, it seems that the proponents to this link bridge are willing to stoop very low indeed. Thus far it has also come to our attention that residents are being duped into signing the petition for the bridge without being told exactly what the petition is for.

    Please beware and understand what the petition is for before signing it, you may well have signed a petition that would only serve to increase trafic volume in Subang.

    I appeal to you to help us to help make your living environment better. Members of the community have voluntereed thier time and effort to this cause. Lend us your support by signing the petition AGAINST the bridge and stand by us in this common cause.

    To my fellow members of the USJRA, my thanks and gratitude, I salute you.

    warm regards
    Jayan

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    The following scenarios are likely to happen if the flyover is built.

    1. Most traffic from Subang Heights & other parts of Shah Alam will use this flyover to short-cut to USJ, Subang Jaya, Federal Highway and Puchong and they will have to bypass Persiaran Setia and go into Persiaran Tujuan. The result? More traffic and more jams! Do you want that? Can Persiaran Tujuan take these additional traffic?

    2. Some traffic from USJ and Puchong will use this flyover to short-cut to go to Shah Alam and they will have to bypass Persiaran Setia and go into Persiaran Tujuan. The result? More traffic and more jams! Do you want that? Can Persiaran Tujuan take these additional traffic?

    3. Whichever way you look at it and whoever uses it, this flyover is only going to bring more chaos to the horrendous congestion we are all facing. Do you want that? Can we do anything about it? Yes, we can provided each and everyone of you steps forward and do your part by supporting our campaign and say NO TO THE BATU 3 - USJ 3 FLYOVER!

    Sign the online petition: "No to Batu 3 Flyover Link into USJ3" here - http://www.petitiononline.com/usjra/ or drop by Double A Copy Centre at USJ 17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonbhlee
    Heard that the meeting has been postponed.........
    Meeting was canceled on Monday (Oct 24) morning (ie day of meeting itself).

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    When is the next meeting?
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    Err...lately this thread about the freaking Flyover...has been shoved further n further away from the limelights...what's happening?

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    Plenty has been happening !! So neighbours have you signed the NO petition yet ? Must be specific since the yes petition is also circulating. So be careful before you sign anything, ask and or read and then make up your mind.

    regards
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