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  1. #151
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    Thumbs up Keep it up !!

    choycmy,

    Lets not say we are here to win or not.
    We are all here to save the people from being victimised.
    The sooner they stop, the better for everyone.

    Tell your friends they should stop not because the business is getting tough but because they should not lose friends and reputation for just products and business scheme. Really not worth. If they lose, just take it as a lesson. If they make money will be worse. It means more people lost their money and the money-makers lost friends, reputation and future trust from friends.

    BTW, encourage those who just joined to get their refund back before they close.
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    Lightbulb observes

    I'm here to drop some note!

    1st; There are 4 type of peoples generally regarding their attitude..
    A: Those who make things happen! : these are people like YTL, Vincent Tan, Ananda Krisnan, Lim Goh Tong, Of course the founder of DCHL!...etc.
    B: Those who observe & go along with the Happening! : These are opportunist! Biz people. They don't want to be left out! These are successful people too. But of course 20 80 rule apply here too.. (if u don't know what is 20 80 rule. U needs to do something with your life now)
    C: Those who observe & never go along with the Happening! : This is bad! these are day dreamer! Only talk Cock!.. Analyzer! no action! never think outside the box. In comfort zone, afraid of change.... etc
    D: Those who wonder what had happen! : Okay, this is common! Katak bawah tempurung.

    2nd; PreventScam, u must be from Amway, Nuskin or Cosway right?...
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    Smile

    Quote Originally Posted by entreprenuer
    I'm here to drop some note!

    1st; There are 4 type of peoples generally regarding their attitude..
    A: Those who make things happen! : these are people like YTL, Vincent Tan, Ananda Krisnan, Lim Goh Tong, Of course the founder of DCHL!...etc.
    B: Those who observe & go along with the Happening! : These are opportunist! Biz people. They don't want to be left out! These are successful people too. But of course 20 80 rule apply here too.. (if u don't know what is 20 80 rule. U needs to do something with your life now)
    C: Those who observe & never go along with the Happening! : This is bad! these are day dreamer! Only talk Cock!.. Analyzer! no action! never think outside the box. In comfort zone, afraid of change.... etc
    D: Those who wonder what had happen! : Okay, this is common! Katak bawah tempurung.

    2nd; PreventScam, u must be from Amway, Nuskin or Cosway right?...
    Those are words used by nearly all MLM Companies and Scams when they motivate a person to join them !!

    No, I am not from any direct-selling Company. I am just trying to help people and prevent them from being victimised by any scams or unethical people.
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    I know of Lampe Berger.

    Quote Originally Posted by mmc
    does this lampe berger has a official website? I tried searching on the internet only found fragrance oil la, lamps la ... but not the networking marketing lampe berger.

    anyone??
    Hello there. I, like you, have discovered about this company, Lampe Berger. To tell you the truth, most of the guys I know are doing multi-level marketing with this company. Its either you pay and directly consume their product (as you mentioned, designed lamps that produces fragrances) OR, you pay and invest your money and create a duplicated series of associates, therefore will make you gain benefits. In business terms, it's called the Multi-level Marketing strategy.

    If I'm not mistaken, you must at least contribute RM 25OO in the company. To gain benefits, you must find, if possible, 5 other people to join in. You can check out their office. Its near KL convention centre. Beside club Orange.

    I would explain more but i don't think its my place to do so. If you have anymore questions, I will try to help by informing my friends. Don't worry, we always see each other. So, gimme a buzz.

    Regards, surayaoz
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    Just Fragrance and NOT aromatherapy as claimed !!

    mmc,

    You need not search further. You are right. US and factory sites just called them fragrance products and sold cheaper there too.
    Never trust the people or Company who are selling them here. They made a lot of false claims.

    suray,

    No need to ask your friends. All the last 20 messages and bloggers link in this thread gave enough info to digest. Evaluate yourself.
    If you ask those who are already promoting the products, you don't get honest information as they are taught to do so in that manner and they learnt it from the Company here , and not France.
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    not bad!

    Me again,
    The reason I'm here is because PreventScam has made quite a talk of the town(laughing stock)...

    Read this, PreventScam:
    http://www.lampeberger.com/content_howitworks.aspx

    there're so many thing we can argue about... Well, Why PreventScam spent days in this forum? Really trying to prevent scam? or got nothing better to do? like work?.... or He somehow kena scam before?

    But I'm pretty sure he got a real day Job (Just Over Broke), and he never really involved before in any MLM co'. He only heard about it somewhere from friends.. Also, according to statistic, 80% of visitor in forums are below 20s! so.... the legitimate of the info is, hmmm.. never mind. I've got better thing to do now... ciao!
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    Freedom of speech

    Freedom of speech is the right given in our constitution as long as what we said do not threaten the national security, etc. Therefore, it is really childish to ask people not to say what they feel about certain thing when this right has already been given in our constiution. According to cause & effect, definitely there is something bad happen to us and the society that cause us saying such thing about lampe berger. The fact is we are not the only people talking such negative thing about it, there is so many others in so many blogs talking about it. Why you don't find similar things happen to others MLMs, very simple because they are ethical. When they are doing thing ethically, people will have nothing against them.
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    Exclamation Don't give such excuses to promote LB here...

    Quote Originally Posted by entreprenuer
    Me again,
    The reason I'm here is because PreventScam has made quite a talk of the town(laughing stock)...

    Read this, PreventScam:
    http://www.lampeberger.com/content_howitworks.aspx

    there're so many thing we can argue about... Well, Why PreventScam spent days in this forum? Really trying to prevent scam? or got nothing better to do? like work?.... or He somehow kena scam before?

    But I'm pretty sure he got a real day Job (Just Over Broke), and he never really involved before in any MLM co'. He only heard about it somewhere from friends.. Also, according to statistic, 80% of visitor in forums are below 20s! so.... the legitimate of the info is, hmmm.. never mind. I've got better thing to do now... ciao!
    I already suspect entreprenuer is a LB distributor from his earlier post. He tried to convince others just like a LB distributor was trained. When someone condemn their products or business, they will pretend to say others are from competitive MLM Companies or say others don't know because they are below 20s or not involved in the MLM business, or being conned before.

    Don't give silly excuses, I know all the active LB distributors are in their early 20's, young, innocent and easily fooled.

    BTW, you don't need to be cheated to understand what is the meaning of being cheated and you don't need to die before in order to prevent death.

    Yes, that LB site already started clearly it only cleanse air up to 68% at the 45th mins, nothing more. Even all US sellers websites claimed it to be fragrance and perfumes. Only the MLM Companies in Asia claimed that it has aromatherapy effects, NOT the factory or US websites. That proved well whether it is a scam or not.

    For more info, visit:

    www.antilampeberger.blogspot.com
    www.lampebergerhelp.blogspot.co
    www.antimlmscams.blogspot.com

    Those blogs will lead you to other links.

    Also read those recent messages put up by choycmy and the TVB video clips.

    For those who are still promoting them innocently, I encourage them to stop the business before you lose more friends and reputations. The Taiwanese can make the money and leave the country. Local Malaysians make the money and face their friends with guilt in future is really not worth.

    The LB business in KL has slowed down. Now if you go to their office, you find more distributors than prospects. They are targeting the ladies and East Malaysia now. Warn all your friends and relatives before they are victimised.
    IP

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    time will tell...

    Well, Of course I'm a DCHL distributer. let me put it this way. There're no way we can prove who right who wrong right now. DCHL has been around for awhile, and it will not last longer if they are doing scam. So, lets wait and see...

    ps: at the mean time. PreventScam, go on doing what you do! Preventing scam! Come on la.. there're reinforcement & law in this country! DCHL is such a high profile co'! If something is wrong somewhere in DCHL, why not KPDN already took action!? There were over 4000 MLM co' few years ago and today there are only 557 left. Why? Cuz KPDN is taking action to those who are not ethical one!
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    Exclamation What do you know ? Or you lied ?

    Quote Originally Posted by entreprenuer
    Well, Of course I'm a DCHL distributer. let me put it this way. There're no way we can prove who right who wrong right now. DCHL has been around for awhile, and it will not last longer if they are doing scam. So, lets wait and see...

    ps: at the mean time. PreventScam, go on doing what you do! Preventing scam! Come on la.. there're reinforcement & law in this country! DCHL is such a high profile co'! If something is wrong somewhere in DCHL, why not KPDN already took action!? There were over 4000 MLM co' few years ago and today there are only 557 left. Why? Cuz KPDN is taking action to those who are not ethical one!
    Now you say it. This is how an unethical MLM Company's distribtor is taught to speak when they are cornered and have nothing else to say. That they are a legal Company, right ?

    The last 20 or 30 messages in this thread is enough to prove. No need to wait and see. If we wait until the Company close, that will be too late and more people will be victimised !!

    Look, I don't know if you lied or that you are really so naive to be taught with wrong info. Most likely your uplines give you wrong info. Malaysia NEVER have 4000 MLM Companies at any 1 time.

    But 1 record is sure, Lampe Berger MLM received the most complaints from the public out of the 500 over Companies today.

    Do you know that unethical or bad practice in business need not be illegal ? So it is no use to brag about why your Company is still around. Business in Taiwan, Hong KOng and even Singapore was slowed alot. Malaysia is just waiting.

    I give some advice, clear your stock and do not stock up if you are smart.
    Never overclaim when you do the marketing. Don't always do what your uplines or Company taught you to do. End of the day, no one will share your guilt.
    IP

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    entreprenuer,
    since you're a DCHL distributer, may I ask you a few simple questions?

    How long you've been in this DCHL/LB distributer business?
    Full time or Part time?
    How much you've invested?
    How much you've earn so far?
    How many downlines you have?
    How many of them are successful?

    Please do answer these question honestly, honestly means cut the sales talk and give us the actual figures.
    then we'll be able to see the things from the DCHL/LB perspective...



    Let's me share share a story of a group of my friends, which I have knew them since college days. After graduating from Uni, all of them has found a steady job, most of them work with international company with steady income. Then about 3 , 4 years back, they call me out say wanted to have a gathering (they're from north) in KL with most of us the old classmates. So, cool! I think, haven't seen few of them for quite a while, so why not? I think.
    So we had a small gathering at one of the famous chain cafe in KL. So during the gathering, I saw those friends of mine all came with a small bag, containing some sort of bottle. So as per usual gathering, chit chat lor.... how's your gf/bf... then I ask how's work? To my suprise, they all told me they has quit their jobs in Penang/Ipoh, and still WILLl be earning an income of 5, 6K per month.... I was huh?
    Then they pull out the bottles from the bag, and start lighting it up, what's the bottle? I think you guys all know lar...
    The next thing is... this group friend of mine are trying to hard sales us into joining them to sell LB. Claiming how much they have invested, with loan from parents, selling their cars, and even bank loan. The investment each of them throw in amounting to a 5 figures. Now they are in the marque level, by buying it directly. Also try to persuade us by telling working a 9-5 job has no future, selling air is the future... and this LB is a modern miracle, can cure all sort of sickness like period pain, headache, asthma, clear the haze and etc... they claim it release Ozone, or O3 to do the cleansing.
    Then upon hearing the word Ozone, I rasie my eye brow... wasn't that Ozone or O3 is harmful to human being? From wikipedia: "ground level ozone is an air pollutant with harmful effects on lung function, Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone" So there I started an arguement with them. Ozone? Do you guys knows what you're selling? Don't you know Ozone is a pollutant at ground level? and etc... And of cos... they refused to believe anything I've said and yet they still try to hard sales me into joining. I didn't join them, and leave the "gathering" early.
    Ever since that gathering, they still try to hard sales me into joining. Asking me out for a TT session, and find out it's another sales talk session. Ask me to go for dinner nearby KLCC, but end up at their so called "motivation class".... which all I've told them I have no interest at all to join, yet they still come buggin' me like the flies to a pile of ****.
    Last year they stop to bug me anymore... also can't contact them. So I thought maybe they have found a new piles of **** to bug? Then one day I've stumble into one of them on the street, so as usual chit chat a bit. So I ask him how's your LB business? Then he told me all of them are no longer in this LB thingy, since all of them got burn. All got stucked with the products they paid for but can't sell, can't even sell back to DCHL, upline who recruit them refuse to help, plus they are all debt ridden also... now he has to do 2 jobs a day to settle his debt.
    People should not be afraid of their government, the government should be afraid of the people. - V
    When the people fear their goverment there is tyranny, when the goverment fears the people there is LIBERTY! - Thomas Jefferson
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    Don't make this a personal issue please... discuss or debate rationally and don't let your emotions take over... right or wrong is a fine line and it's impossible to determine because it can be viewed from many different prespectives. For example from a parents prespective whose child spent $ and forsaken his studies for a quick buck may see it as wrong but for a guy wanting to cari makan he would say there's nothing wrong because it's legal in Malaysia. So, never judge others. We can discuss the pyramid scheme in mlms, its legality, or effect on youths/economy but don't attack those who are in mlms. We have no right to
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    dang!

    Hi all,
    I've been with DCHL for 1 1/2 years. Part time.(I'm a hi profile biz man! I'm consider very successful in my field)
    My initial investment was rm2495 (with purchase of any DCHL products worth RM2,345) plus rm150 for the sales kit & eDC card.
    All in, i have made close to RM100k so far.
    I have about 60 downlines under me.
    Not all my partners are active. There are few even quit half way!(u can resign within 6 months & DCHL will buy back 90% your invested stock.) But of course some made it even better than I do!!

    wow! your story are quite impresive!
    hmm.. 1st, yes! some people sucks at doing direct sales or MLM. They're way too pushy & not profesional in doing the biz! Like any other trade, some good at it, some not. But it's not the fault of DCHL! it's that particular independent distributor that did not follow the system or rules.. example, certain nation from western country criticise certain religion over this region! (i'm not suppose to name it! ) But, You & I know there's nothing wrong with that particular religion! It's some the follower of that religion that interpret it wrongly! and acted wrongly! Right?! So, there are always Bad apple! it's everywhere in any trade... DCHL actually took action to those who abuse the system by taking their licence away!

    2nd, there are no way u can ended up getting stuck with unsold stock! As i mention earlier, we can return unsold stock within 6 month with 90% money back! (unless U have used up the stock)

    3rd. Check your fact about O3! Yes, Its harmful in hi dosage! So is O2!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen

    what bout petrol!? It is highly flamable & dangerous if handle carelessly! Why we're still using it in our car.

    Today there are so many usage of O3 in everyday life. see the usage.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone

    4th. Yes, at 1 time there were over 4000 mlm co' in m'sia! including those without licence one!
    IP

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    Why are you posting in RED? Did you intend to shout without using uppercase?
    I can't even make out which were quotes and which were your rebuttal.

    Please share your ideas in a civil manner. If you folks want to slog it out go to the football field and have a game of soccer. Get personal on the forum and I will send you for a holiday in the plantation. Thank you
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    Exclamation Proven dishonest LB distributor

    The fact that he made up a false claimed that there are over 4,000 mlm Companies in Malaysia and now left with few hundred and OHK or RZ(both have sold Lampe Berger)are among them already proved this person is not honest at all.

    I wonder if he will ever be honest to admit or realise the fact that IF ALL the people in the world invest RM2000 plus like he did, MAJORITY will be the losers. Even right now, there are already more losers and dropouts.

    IF you go to their office, they will point to you all the successful ones and will NEVER tell you those who don't make it and will NEVER remind you to consider carefully in case you cannot make it and will lose 10%. These already proved that the Companies(both OHK/RZ) are not ethical.
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