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    Mentri Besar stops USJ8 Food Court Project

    As pointed out by CK One in another thread, the Mentri Besar has stepped in and stopped the USJ 8 food court project. This is the beginning of a new chapter and therefore deserves a separate thread. Here is the report for the benefit of all those who would want to read the good news. We, the people have won again. Will the food court operator now listen to the voice of the people?


    Tuesday, March 29, 2005
    From The Metro Star



    Mentri Besar Datuk Seri Dr Mohd Khir Toyo has ordered that the eatery project at USJ 8 to be stopped even though it had been approved by the Subang Jaya Municipal Council.

    “We must listen to the wishes of the people and the residents there do not want the eatery.

    “They want a police station and I agree that the land there is more suitable for a police station,” said Dr Khir in an interview.



    Abdul Jalil stating the Subang Jaya Wargamas Association’s objection to the food court. He added that there was no urgency for an eatery to be set up at that site as there were many other eateries in Subang Jaya.

    “The security of the residents is more important. I agree with the views of the Subang Jaya Assemblyman Datuk Lee Hwa Beng who had a meeting with the residents,” said the mentri besar.

    Lee when informed of Dr Khir's decision said he was grateful for the mentri besar's intervention.

    “The residents are against the food court and they want a police station to be built as soon as possible,” he added.

    In the meeting on Friday night, the residents of USJ and Subang Jaya proposed a donation campaign to raise funds to build the police station in USJ 8.

    The idea was mooted during the three-hour meeting at Lee's service centre in USJ1.

    The objective of the meeting, chaired by Lee and attended by over 300 residents, was to hear the views of the residents on the food court to be developed in USJ 8 on land earmarked for a police station.

    Also present at the meeting were MPSJ councillors Abdul Halim Samad, Yap Yun Fatt and D. Gnana Sanbantham.

    Work on the project had stopped late last year when residents protested against it.

    Then, after work resumed recently, a stop-work order was issued two weeks ago by the Subang Jaya Municipal Council (MPSJ).

    The donation campaign was suggested by businessman Steven Aroki, who lives in SS19, Subang Jaya.

    “I am willing to donate RM1,000 if there is a lack of government funds for the police station,” Aroki said, adding that his house had been broken into by robbers about seven years ago.


    Lee listening to views aired by a resident on the issue.
    “I have three daughters. I fear for their safety,” said Aroki, 38.

    Johnny Liu, 39, a businessman residing in USJ 6, said he, too, was willing to donate RM1,000.

    “My sister was a snatch theft victim last year,” said Liu.

    Other residents interviewed by StarMetro also said they were willing to donate, with sums ranging from RM5 to RM1,000.

    MPSJ councillor Yap Yun Fatt, who resides in USJ 4, said the proposed donation drive was a good idea.

    “This shows how desperate the residents are for a police station in the area,” said Yap.

    Residents Committee of Zone Three (covering USJ9 to USJ15) chairman Yeoh Poh Choon said there were also plans to organise a charity function with the aim of buying two patrol cars for the USJ 8 police beat base.

    During the meeting, Lee explained that food court developer Pack Connexion Sdn Bhd had obtained approval from MPSJ and the police authorities to carry out the project.

    “However, approval is given on a year-to-year basis. The validity of the approval is until Aug 31, 2006,” said Lee.

    MPSJ councillor Abdul Halim Samad said in the past, MPSJ had given five other approvals for various projects to be carried out on reserved land under its jurisdiction.

    Lee also said the developer of the food court had issued a letter stating that they would move out if there were plans to build a police station on the land.

    However, many of the residents were sceptical.

    “It is a large investment as the food court would be able to accommodate 75 hawker stalls.

    “Logically, it would be difficult to make a profit by August next year,” said Yap.

    Many of the residents at the meeting expressed their protests against the food court project, including Subang Jaya Wargamas (senior citizens) Association chairman Abdul Jalil Baharin.

    “I represent the association in objecting to the food court. We have about 500 members,” said 73-year-old Abdul Jalil, who is a resident of USJ 4.

    USJ18 resident Raymond Tan said the USJ8 police beat base did not have enough resources to combat crime in the area.

    However, not all the residents were against the food court project.

    “If there is no money to build a police station, it is better to lease the land out rather than leaving it idle,” said a SS17, Subang Jaya resident, who wished to be known only as Shahrom.

    “The food court can also help to generate more economic activity in the area,” said Mohd Zaidi Ilamdin, who resides in SS14, Subang Jaya.


    http://metro.thestar.com.my/news/2005/3/10535751.html
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    Self-Save USJ/SJ Police Station

    Talking about the Federal Government not having the fund for the construction of the IPK Police Station at USJ8 at this moment in time, and the offer by some of the SJ/USJ residents' to contribute towards the construction cost, I have this fancy idea, which may not, of course, be acceptable to everybody, especially those property speculative owners who are not USJ/SJ residents, and who do not see the threatening crime situation like what we local resident owners see. The idea is as follows:

    1. Set up a USJ/SJ Self-Save Police Station Building Fund, managed and supervised by the relevant Authorities

    2. All property owners and business owners contribute towards this Fund in the form of pre-payment or advance payments of two years for the years 2007 and 2008 assessment fees (property) or business operating licence fees (business). MPSJ should serve as the Collecting Agency because they have all the records of property owners and business owners.

    3. The Toll (ooops.. Works) Ministry can start appointing bona fide consultants/designers to design the IPK, and call for open tender to avoid the project be awarded to unscrupulous developers who may abandon the project half way through after collecting their progress payments and diverting the funds somewhere and then declare that they are in financial difficulty.

    4. When funds are available for the IPK under the 9th Malaysia Plan, the Government can channel the funds to that Special SJ/USJ Self Save Police Station Building Fund. The Fund will then return the money to MPSJ.

    5. Money returned by the Fund will be held in trust by MPSJ to offset the 2007 and 2008 assessment. If the money is returned before the due assessment year, MPSJ can deposit the money into a bank to earn fixed deposit interest. This income may even be more than make up for the projected loss of revenue expected from the much against foodcourt which, if allowed to materialize, will hijack our much needed IPK.

    The above may generate the necessary fund, at least sufficient to head-start the construction of the Police Station, instead of waiting, lest some dirty hands may be at work to grap this land again. I pay RM390 per year assessment fee for my DSL in USJ, and I think I can afford making advancement of RM780 to contribute in a small way to save our Police Station.

    Just one cent worth of thought.

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    Now that we won, why not starts the "People's Police Station Donation Drive" . Let set up the committees and proceed with action and ensure that the police station is set up in no time.

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    The warlords? Just who are they? If you had been present during the public hearing on Friday night, chances are you would have noticed them - or at least their "machais".

    Just a matter of interest, did anyone receive any anonymous calls?

    And orchisan, just wondering whether you have read Sun Tzu's Art of War? The last chapter says, take out your wallet, count your money and relax ma.


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    Err...Raymond...otherthan you...a couple of us received unidentifiable n 'strange' calls...Orchi believes one of them which was addressed to one of our brudders...was nastier with a racist tone...

    Ahem...come to think of it...Orchi believes there are more than 268,000 populations in 55,000 households in USJ n probably in SJ as well...consider a discount of 50%...each family household needs only to contribute rm218.18 to see a full fledged BALAI POLIS in operation costing rm6,000,000...so some donates more n some donates less...it's really NOT a bigger issue altogether...

    But then again...IF each family living in USJ/SJ contributes rm727.27...more or less...we should see the BALAI POLIS be upgraded to become an IPD SubangJaya...which would be costing something lika rm40 millions...

    Orchi is confident about one other thing...should our belove PM hears about us putting this kinda effort forward...which would be the FIRST in Malaysian history...if NOT happening in the whole wide world...he would definitely step in with his 'influence' n 'contributions' to make this an easier reality for all the residents concerned...

    For a start...Orchi had pledged rm1,000/-- to this cause along with what Aroki-san n others have done to begin with in the public hearing...lets make this one A TRUE MALAYSIAN BOLEH endeavor...for ALL our sakes...

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    To me all this episode is a sandiwara. MB saves the day , Lhb does his duty, all the hardworking commitee members are happy.Now we are ask to donate for building a Polis Station. It is all the politikus gaining points at the expense of USJ/SJ residents.

    Good PR I would say and they got all of us fired up to let the MB looks good. Just my 2 cents worth.he,he,he.

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    I believe when Aroki spoke that night on the issue of the police inability to make funds available to jumpstart building the balai immediately is to prevent those unscrupulous businessmen from coming again and again with proposal after proposal to use the idle land - be it a foodcourt or a futsal.

    As a token, he started the ball rolling by pledging RM 1,000 to create a public fund to build it. The government of the day should be able to see that this is not only unheard of but it will also look bad on them for failing its election obligation. This gesture of Aroki will definitely put pressure on them to use their RM 500 million emergency funds to finance this project. If not, we can wait for another one year for the police station to will be there. We must ensure that the food court will not be there in the meantime. As the saying goes, there are many ways to skin a cat.

    So before we go overboard and goo goo ga ga and start this fund which I think is a very hugh task beyong our community capability, let us think of other things that are more do able and bring immediate results. Let us start by building relationship than structures first. The bowling tournament with our friendly police two weeks ago can be expanded to other areas of sports or family day where we can develop a good rapport with them. Also, they have all the time expressed their need for additional patrol cars and we have been talking about getting two for them for a long long time. Anyway, the ball is at their court as they have yet to come back to us for the duty exemption thing. Those officers in the field even said that they are willing to trade in one car for 5 motorcycles as the traffic conditions in SJ/USJ areas are always congested and the bikes are more practical.

    So I would suggest we work on this small project that is more feasible rather than the multi million ringgit project involving the building of those infrastructures. Anyway, isn't this the Barisan government's responsibilty to provide its citizens the very basic protection?

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    How to make sure that this is a permanent stop and not a conditional & temporary one ? Only if the approval is withdrawn.
    While an approval remains in the developer's hands he can ( & will ) manipulate. Further, Hakim must be made to account for this screw up as well .... so that such idiotic decisions will never raise their ugly heads again in MPSJ.

    In the meantime, a big THANK YOU to lhb for commendable effort thus far.

    We appeal to you, Dato, to put the final nail into the coffin by doing everything to withdraw the approval & ensure that it does not raise its ugly head again.
    Thanks Dato lhb.

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    While an approval remains in the developer's hands he can ( & will ) manipulate. Further, Hakim must be made to account for this screw up as well .... so that such idiotic decisions will never raise their ugly heads again in MPSJ.

    Err...JG...Orchi is agreeable...the very mention of YDP gives rise to Orchi's BP now...

    Ahem...read in Star today mentioned about OKT saying that the rakyat should bring the matter up with HIM n HIS department alone...should any council screws up!...anyone else read it or gotta better suggestions?

    Councils get wake-up call

    The next time a local authority fails to act on a complaint from the public, go right to the top – the Housing and Local Government Ministry.


    “If you feel that something is not right, initiate measures to rectify the problems immediately. Don’t wait for us to come and teach you what to do.”

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    The only way to put a stop to all this nonsense is for Bukit Aman to withdraw their consent on the foodcourt which is easier done than to get Hakim to reject their application. Just like the many Hollywood "Return of the ......." series films, this guy will do anything as he is on the way out. MPSJ, through the two councillors present at last Friday's meeting has all the time been saying that the operator's application is all in order. Hakim has been telling us all the time 'Semuanya OK." So long as they have the remaining period of the lease that will expire 31 August 2006, they will come back with other proposals and disguised behind them is the foodcourt. We have to watch out for this. In this case, we on our part can delay the process as long as possible that it will no longer be viable to build anything except a burial ground where some people need to be buried there. Then only semuanya OK. Thank you to the Mentri Besar for saying "NO" to the foodcourt.

    By the way Orchi, we will take up the offer by Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting, the Minister of Local Government and Housing. It is time to play an attacking game rather than defence all the time. We are in the process of not only gathering evidences on this saga alone but the many projects and local government spendings that are not right in our eyes. Warning the authorities to buck up, Ong said: “Treat this as an open reminder." You can say that again, Ong.

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    P.C.Yeoh, you are right, they will be back and stronger. You see they will now think of privatising and turnkey the IPD building which is much to the interest of Bukit Aman. This is attractive as they have funds available. So what you get is an ASIA CAFE liked food Court beside a IPD Building. Technically nothing wrong and meanwhile if it is aprooved, they can temporary use it as a foodcourt until the building is completed.

    I am not for the foodcourt but the above are possible senario. The only safe way is to get Pak Lah to endorse the MB's decision and publicise it.

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    The good news is that LHB has had to reveal his cards.
    He seems to be on our side now.
    But I am a pragmatist ( as I know most Subang Jaya folks are ) ..... LHB did not come over to our side out of the goodness of his heart. Pressure from the good people of Subang helped to make his choice easier.
    All it takes is for the model poltician and person of almost virginal purity ........ the one and only root-canalist & forest-denuder, Khir to swing and we are goners ...... we will not be able to keep a hold on lhb any more. Remember politicians are not Alsatians .........!
    So pc, your following comment
    Quote Originally Posted by pcyeoh
    we will take up the offer by Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting, the Minister of Local Government and Housing. It is time to play an attacking game rather than defence all the time. We are in the process of not only gathering evidences on this saga alone but the many projects and local government spendings that are not right in our eyes.
    is most welcome and I am sure all residents will be solidly behind you and your team.
    In meantime, anohter big thank you to raymond, jayen, robertec, gilbert, pcyeoh and all others who were responsible for giveing all of us hope that this damned issue will stay dead.
    Congrats guys. you helped us win the battle ..... But the WAR IS NOT OVER YET.

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    As a token, he started the ball rolling by pledging RM 1,000 to create a public fund to build it. The government of the day should be able to see that this is not only unheard of but it will also look bad on them for failing its election obligation. This gesture of Aroki will definitely put pressure on them to use their RM 500 million emergency funds to finance this project. If not, we can wait for another one year for the police station to will be there. We must ensure that the food court will not be there in the meantime. As the saying goes, there are many ways to skin a cat.

    PCYeoh...what assurance have we got this far...that what we could assume is happening when? or how soon?

    this guy will do anything as he is on the way out. MPSJ

    Err...again Orchi thinks we may know quite a bit for sure or not?...please share how this info is reliable or not?

    The only way to put a stop to all this nonsense is for Bukit Aman to withdraw their consent on the foodcourt which is easier done than to get Hakim to reject their application.

    Ahem...probably due to reasons beyond our understanding...the police has leased out the land to the developer way back in 2003 or so...IF the lease is still valid...how would we think...the police should do...n how would we or anyone else going to handle over that lease issue...?

    In this case, we on our part can delay the process as long as possible that it will no longer be viable to build anything except a burial ground where some people need to be buried there. Then only semuanya OK.

    Err...when the sense of security in our community is fast decaying...what are we supposed to do NOW instead of sitting n waiting...or spend more money to install CCTV or alarm systems or hire more guards or launch more neighbourhood watch?

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    By the way Orchi, we will take up the offer by Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting, the Minister of Local Government and Housing. It is time to play an attacking game rather than defence all the time. We are in the process of not only gathering evidences on this saga alone but the many projects and local government spendings that are not right in our eyes. Warning the authorities to buck up, Ong said: “Treat this as an open reminder." You can say that again, Ong.

    Aahhh...PCYeoh...now you are talking greater sense...

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    So long as the hoarding are there it is not safe. Ong Ka Ting maybe a good bet but I doubt his intervention as MPSJ has done nothing wrong.Looks like those staying there should keep a vigil on the physical going ons.

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    [QUOTE=orchipalar][COLOR=Blue]The warlords? Just who are they? If you had been present during the public hearing on Friday night, chances are you would have noticed them - or at least their "machais".....

    Just a matter of interest, did anyone receive any anonymous calls?....

    QUOTE]

    Seriously speaking, when these kinds of phone calls come in... I can only pray that you guys are kept in safe company.

    Seems obvious that some people are pretty cheesed by the amount of resistance that the community leaders have put up for the sake of the community as a whole.

    These basta*ds probably have lost or would be missing out on the pie - and God only knows, if they had taken any kickbacks... they would have to reimburse the monies taken... , and I can imagine if these fellas cannot reimburse the monies...cos they've spent it already!!!

    To bring up racial matters and intonation just because of a bloody foodcourt sure sounds fishy ( and no bloody kari ikan involved!!)

    Just makes you wonder ....
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