Money making talks or seminar

[Joe Gomez]

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Orchi, as u r in MLM, then you should know that in Network Marketing, it is your NETWORK that is absolutely even more important, i.e. -who you know-. In the business and corporate world, who you know is very important in getting that job, in getting that business deal, in getting that promotion, in getting that opportunity, etc.

I think this "know who" thingey shd not be stretched beyond its elastic limit. Oftentimes u start with not knowing a person and you create situations to get to know. After that, that person is someone you know and a potential. I appreciate totoro allowing that know-who, luck & opportunity are not the be all and end all of all success.
I think orchi is also right when he implies that while opportunities can be created sweat i.e. effort cant be discounted.
Basically "Effort shd be directly proportional to dreams" _ Yaro's Theory

[dodyann]

A positive attitude and creative thinking goes a very long way, I agree, but it alone cannot take you everywhere. It is sometimes a bit dangerous to get too psyched up about endless possibilities and vast wealth to the point it clouds your better judgement.

yeah i agree that positive attitude and creative thinking no enough .. u need to go and practice what u learn .. maybe when u join MLM u can not do well compare to other but maybe u can be succesful stock trader or Insurance agents ..u just found ur cup ot tea .. when u see many first class students in Universities .. u can be like them by positive attitude and creative thinking & puting things in practice and do ur homeworks as they do .. dont just stay and hope for high grads. when u attend these seminars u will mix with succesful people then by positive attitude and creative thinking and following what they do (even a little ) is enough to change somthing in ur life .. no just stay and complain about the fess.. ..(Many school students who learn mathematic from Math teacher become also maths teacher.. why ? )

I will pay money to listen to Mahathir give a seminar about secrets of Malaysian politics, and I can go for 50 of such seminars, but I don't think it will increase my chances of becoming a PM anytime soon...

who said that .. u can be like Mahathir as leader .. you can learn from him secrets of leadership and u can become even better than him in leadership if u do ur homework as Mahathir teachs u .. not nessecery you need to become PM .. his seminar (if his organize one la) will be for improving u leadership skills, it wont be about how to become PM ..got it

Hmm, in comparing 2 methods of making money, you got method 1, which is what you do to earn money... and method 2, which is a seminar to make money telling others how to do it as well.

If I can make much more money using method 1, I will not really even spend time to consider method 2, unless I crave attention, want to be famous, or want to write a book, or get people to know that I have / know how to make money so that I can do more business with them in the future, so I can make even more money.

yeah that true when u have method 1 u wil be happy ..but method 2 to help peopl by teaching them how to make money same when the teacher in school help student by teaching subjects, both cases u r paying in the seminar or in the school .. are the school making money from method 2 .. also another things .. when u do right seminar is for good of every one who wanna change thier life .. but its still ur desicion ..

Everybody loves to quote a success story, it revs your engine and gets you going and you feel you can do anything in this world.

Everybody wants to become the next Bill Gates or Michael Dell, or Warren Buffett... but the thing is... you can go around telling a billion people in this world that everybody can be like them, and the truth may be that they -can- end up like these successful people, but over the past 10-20 years, how many Bill Gates do we have so far? Did everyone in OmegaTrend end up as rich as their boss, if not, was it because they worked less hard? Even in the MLM world, things always work out best for those at the top?

who said that over the past 10-20 yrs no body become like Bill Gates or Warrent Buffet ? there many many people are rich becoz they learn from Bill Gates or Warrent Buffet experinces .. as i stated before when u attend Mahathir seminar is not to become PM but to become Good Leader .. same here attending Warrent Buffet not to become 2nd rich man in the world but to become good trader & investor .. In USA so many Millionares (thousands of millionares) and every millionare has at least 1 Investment strategy in stock (means they learn from Warrent Buffet) ..but its not nessecry to become as rich as him .. being millionares learning from 2nd rich man it already success .. (u can not stay in Africa for 10 years to be black man but u can talk, act & behave like them got my point)

Yeah I agree that not everyone in Omegatrend are rish as thier boss becoz the biz is not for everybody and not the cup of tea of everybody .. but there many are well succesfull (go and attend their semianrs or convention) I am not promoting Omegatrend here coz i am not even member with them .. in fact I did join them for 6 months but it was not my cup of tea ..then i look for other biz which what i am doing now .. (I earn almost what Omegatrend leader earns now) sorry i am not promoting again ..

[dodyann]

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Having said that...allow Orchi to ask...generally wage earners..professionals or otherwise..business entrepreneurs...real estate agents...mutual funds agents...insurance agents...financial planners... multilevelmarketers ...networkmarkets...directsellers...etc...how would you else explain that their income levels differ from each other in their respective companies...organizations or fields?

becoz they think positivly, outside the box, took thier jobs/biz in to practice and did their homework ..so they earn according to thier area ..but all are happy .. when u ask MLM guy to join Insurnace industry or u ask real estate agent to join another biz ..they wont join coz they are happy with what they do even income is differ .. Maybe realestate agent can earn about $10K per month but MLM guy earn $20K ..both have their cup of tea and happy with it .. so cant ask realestate agent to join MLM even he got very good network .. ( can Math teacher become BM teacher just like that) or (can Best Engineering student to become successful if he change to Medical course in his final year)

the goals of those people is making money ..so if u happy with ur money and already achive what u think is ur goal is good enough to be call successful testimonial ..

[totoro]

Yeah I agree that not everyone in Omegatrend are rish as thier boss becoz the biz is not for everybody and not the cup of tea of everybody .. but there many are well succesfull (go and attend their semianrs or convention) I am not promoting Omegatrend here coz i am not even member with them .. in fact I did join them for 6 months but it was not my cup of tea ..then i look for other biz which what i am doing now .. (I earn almost what Omegatrend leader earns now) sorry i am not promoting again ..

Good for you Mr dodyann, and because you agree with those successful people who are benevolently teaching newbies their secrets, how about you share your knowledge and secrets here in an open public forum with everyone? Don't charge any fees, coz I'm sure they don't mean anything to you right? Just peanuts to you mah...

I also think everybody is able to reach their maximum potential and that many have not. I think point in life is to be happy, healthy and satisfied with your life, regardless of what other people think (unless you're being a public nuisance of coz! )

If got interesting 'lubang' to make money, be sure to tell Totoro first, k?

Totoro
on-the-lookout-for-lubang

[dodyann]

Good for you Mr dodyann, and because you agree with those successful people who are benevolently teaching newbies their secrets, how about you share your knowledge and secrets here in an open public forum with everyone? Don't charge any fees, coz I'm sure they don't mean anything to you right? Just peanuts to you mah...

I also think everybody is able to reach their maximum potential and that many have not. I think point in life is to be happy, healthy and satisfied with your life, regardless of what other people think (unless you're being a public nuisance of coz! )

If got interesting 'lubang' to make money, be sure to tell Totoro first, k?

Totoro
on-the-lookout-for-lubang

I agree with u about the point of life is be happy, healthy and satisfied with your life .. as long as u are happy with what u earn, get and have no healt problem .. u should thank God for that ..

I have no problem teaching u or showing ur lubang of making money .. In fact, I help some of my freind by showing them some lubang ..now they earn more than what I earn hehehe .. about sharing here my secrets I think its againest the forum rule by promoting.. Just breifly I am involve in Internet Investment that really paid me .. I bought my first ever Kelisa by paying (RM2x,xxx d/p) and I change my small flate to Condominuim ..its ok good changes in my life .. but still working to achive other big goals nice to talk with u Totoro

[totoro]

I think this "know who" thingey shd not be stretched beyond its elastic limit. Oftentimes u start with not knowing a person and you create situations to get to know. After that, that person is someone you know and a potential. I appreciate totoro allowing that know-who, luck & opportunity are not the be all and end all of all success.
I think orchi is also right when he implies that while opportunities can be created sweat i.e. effort cant be discounted.
Basically "Effort shd be directly proportional to dreams" _ Yaro's Theory

Yup, networks, luck and opportunity is never be all and end all... (Totoro wants to stress he just added a few more to Orchi's longer list).

Effort and attitude is of coz very important.

Syed Mokhtar was already successful before he got to know Tun M.

[totoro]

An excerpt from a review of a local investor's book - Milan Doshi:

Thursday, July 29, 2004

Getting rich via properties, stocks

Who is this man? Read the book and Doshi will tell you that he is an independent financial trainer from Singapore and the founder of Malaysia’s “first and biggest financial seminars on personal money management, property and stock market investments since 1998.”

It helps that Doshi is a seasoned speaker on investing, as one suspects he writes the way he speaks. Moreover, the book is also a good base for parents to teach teenage children financial literacy.

The gist: Build a strong foundation first by investing in yourself to improve financial intelligence. Read widely, attend workshops and seek out mentors or excellent financial advisors so that you can tune into the millionaire’s mindset.

“When money comes, it will not only remain with you, but it will grow and multiply. Hence, you have to learn how to be an investor if you want to become wealthy,” says Doshi.

Teamwork makes a millionaire. A millionaire surrounds himself with a trusted network of financial advisors such as bankers, valuers, lawyers, remisiers, insurance agents, tax consultants and property negotiators, and acts on their advice.

What's particularly interesting in the closing chapters is the art of crisis investing, one of eight stock market investment strategies Doshi teaches in his RM4,980 seminars.

Doshi claims that investment strategies such as “buy and hold” and dollar-cost averaging no longer work although he qualifies the statement by saying buy and hold still applies for a few defensive stocks.

Doshi has delivered what he set out to do in his first book, though one would have like to know the other seven stock tips he has held back for the seminars. No sense in cannibalising the main revenue stream.

[aroki]

Sorry guys about this long post in by first time .. I welcome any comments ..and sorry id i made any mistakes that hurts anybody there ..

I hope u will accept my first post

dodyann,

welcome on board..my comments... are you trying too hard to be humble and getting the spelling wrong or trying to write bad english?be your true self man..lets talk over TT..teh tarik tongkat ali on me Like to hear your experience on this.

[aroki]

Good for you Mr dodyann, and because you agree with those successful people who are benevolently teaching newbies their secrets, how about you share your knowledge and secrets here in an open public forum with everyone? Don't charge any fees, coz I'm sure they don't mean anything to you right? Just peanuts to you mah...

dodyann,

this is great idea. give us a public seminar..no advertisement or promoting of your bis..just on what it takes to be successful and your experience. I'm sure if that is the objective, we can talk to the moderator and organise on. face to face is more motivational.

[dodyann]

dodyann,

welcome on board..my comments... are you trying too hard to be humble and getting the spelling wrong or trying to write bad english?be your true self man..lets talk over TT..teh tarik tongkat ali on me Like to hear your experience on this.

sorry my freind .. I always made wrong spelling becoz of my kayboard and my hurry writing .. sorry again about it.. hehehe ..

[dodyann]

dodyann,

this is great idea. give us a public seminar..no advertisement or promoting of your bis..just on what it takes to be successful and your experience. I'm sure if that is the objective, we can talk to the moderator and organise on. face to face is more motivational.

Yeah it great idea ..but i am kind of person that a bit shy to come to the stage and talk (malu la ) ..

but still I have not achive my goals or dreams .. anyway I am always open minded

[aroki]

Yeah it great idea ..but i am kind of person that a bit shy to come to the stage and talk (malu la ) ..

but still I have not achive my goals or dreams .. anyway I am always open minded

dodyann

you should be quoting from kane&abel or shakespeare my friend..I can feel it that you have that ability you are still try(ing) too hard to type wrong(ly).successful ppl are not shy..other feelings maybe but not shy. I guess one goal has (been) achieve(d) on this forum..

signing of(f)..have better think(g)s to do..good luck dodyann aka.....?

my tips on wrong english without the brackets.BTW I guess gates must know the pareto rule too. sayonara!!!

[Joe Gomez]

Hi dodyann welcome ........ you are handling yourself like a pro man.
We need bloggers like you. You say things as they are ..... and say them without trying to decorate them with flowery language.
Where were you all these years, man.

aroki, sorry to differ lah. My personal opinion is that dodyann doesnt need to give a talk. ( Dont lah ..... he says he is shy ..... so no need lah ) We will benefit greatly if he continues to post his thoughts on this forum cukup lah.
Pls come for the TT sessions, dodyann.
I for one wld be happy to meet up with someone so "charged" & with so much "uummmpphh". U c .... I m in the insurance business & draw inspiration from everyone in direct selling profession or, as in your case internet investment. Thats why I like to rub shoulders with orchi ..... he is so very "charged" with his line of business he, w/o realising, convinces me more & more that I personally am in the right profession. His enthusiasm is infectious !! tan_r as well ...... I like reading his posts for the same reason.

[aroki]

joe,

you are right. I take it all back.you are more level headed and full of wisdom guy. So will need to take your advise. lets enjoy the TT, should be driving back from penang on that day.

arigato Joe san.

[totoro]

Hi dodyann welcome ........ you are handling yourself like a pro man.
We need bloggers like you. You say things as they are ..... and say them without trying to decorate them with flowery language.
Where were you all these years, man.

aroki, sorry to differ lah. My personal opinion is that dodyann doesnt need to give a talk. ( Dont lah ..... he says he is shy ..... so no need lah ) We will benefit greatly if he continues to post his thoughts on this forum cukup lah.
Pls come for the TT sessions, dodyann.
I for one wld be happy to meet up with someone so "charged" & with so much "uummmpphh". U c .... I m in the insurance business & draw inspiration from everyone in direct selling profession or, as in your case internet investment. Thats why I like to rub shoulders with orchi ..... he is so very "charged" with his line of business he, w/o realising, convinces me more & more that I personally am in the right profession. His enthusiasm is infectious !! tan_r as well ...... I like reading his posts for the same reason.

I also like to meet ppl who are positively charged and energetic. Even more, I like to meet people who are rich and successful, erm... but of coz also everyone who are friendly, kind, cheerful, approachable, helpful, etc....!

It is true that those in the sales, especially direct sales business, needs a lot of 're-charging' to keep going... it can be a very depressing career to be in, where the rate of rejection is very high... those who manage to break through and persevere often end up quite successful... i truly respect these people. *hats off*


Totoro
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