A Poem for empress julz (EJ)

[dr_luv]

Where are you EJ ?

When I first met you
When I first found you on the usj.com
I never knew this will be something I will never forget
I never knew that you will be my online friend
I never knew my heart will beat for every reply you send

Are you true?
Are you true or you're something of my imagination
You're too good to be something of my creation
Is true that your heart is so sweet and kind

Whenever I talk to you
I always hear the words I want to hear
The words that takes away all the fear
The fear of losing you is all I cared about
Though it will happen one day, I never doubt

And now you're gone
And now you're gone, my heart lost in the cyber space
My mind is wondering, am I one day going to see your reply
But for now all I can do is to pray
And the only thing that I can say

I miss you so much my online friend empress julz
Where are you my friend ... ... ... !!

[aimless]

AWWWWWWWWWWWW... so sweet... my heart bleeds for you

yeah, where IS the Empress?

CHL, did you scare her off? oh wait, you were always defending her, right?

[saml]

Why you all miss her so much arh? She's probably in Mee Lan or Loon Doon completing her phd in law or something like that.

[christopherngg]

Hey Administrators & Folks,

I could be wrong....but this to me looks like a clear case of harassment towards another fellow member of this community.

Infact, this sh.t poem makes me wana PUKE!

Don't you think...its high time to get rid of it....???

....and IF anyone of you thinks that this sh.t poem is tasteful instead.....you are making me wanna PUKE as well!


chris.[PISSED]

[aimless]

chris,

in that case,

go puke.

[kwchang]

Chris, you are point on.
I am amazed at how you, a newbie to this Forum, has seen through Dr_Luv's intentions. Were you here before in a different life?

Generally, most people have now refused to respond to Dr_Luv's postings because his postings have deep undercurrents. We are alarmed why aimless and saml have decided to give Dr_Luv the attention he don't deserve.

For your information, I have already warned Dr_Luv by PM on the same day he posted this nonsense. We are waiting for him to make the next wrong move....

In the meantime, we do not remove threads quietly. If it is removed, we report it for you to know. As you have seen, we have frozen some offensive threads but maintained it online as an educational piece for newbies to learn from before they make similar mistakes. Our job is to allow freedom of speech on condition that Forumers behave like adults.

By leaving this thread on, we can show how Dr_Luv makes a complete fool of himself.

[empress_julz]

kwchang,

in all due fairness, i think dr_luv is making a fool of this forum and the moderating more than himself. he knows it and enjoys it.

christophernng is right. it is harassment, and this is not the first time that dr luv has done so towards me.

i am personally holding this forum responsible for allowing such talk to go on. let it be noted that in the previous episode of outbursts and threats on his behalf, i had sent numerous pms to both moderators (jeffooi and kwchang) asking for some degree of control over dr_luv, to no avail. i contacted the authorities as i said i would and waited for the logs to hand over, but when i asked for it i was told they were "not available".

instead i was told to hold back and not address dr_luv at all so as to not prompt him to reply. (very "malaysian")

kwchang, i am not replying dr_luv right now, nor have i posted in this forum in ages. but he still continues to harass me. i'm afraid your theory is grossly flawed.

i take it that this is a place where this kind of talk is tolerated - i have had a post deleted for pointing out to another gentleman that i did not tolerate his overly sexual post, and i was told that it was "irrelevant to the conversation". the other day someone preached on the forum, which no doubt is wrong, and his post was deleted too.

dr_luv's thread is even more serious than both of those posts put together - apart from anything it singles me out as an individual. and it's okay for it to sit there and fester?

it seems grossly unfair, dr_luv (and other members on occassions) have been allowed to post whole threads and posts on insults, harassment, even murder threats towards me. to say that they're left there to prove to the world "how stupid he sounds" is something i don't find acceptable.

this really sends a message out to women notably, that this is not a safe and respectful forum for us to be seen or heard.

kwchang, please don't crucify me and use me as an example of dr_luv's poor behaviour. have some degree of fairness towards my wellbeing, feelings and reputation. even if you want to allow this guy to continue to spout crap, have the decency to remove threads that are deeply offensive, sexist and mocking, amongst other disturbing things.

i'm sure you wouldn't want someone talking like that to your wife or daughters, or any woman you cared about. what if dr_luv addressed that poem to one of them? would you allow it to sit there to show "how stupid he can be"? i guarantee you you'd burn it on sight.

thank you.

///ej

[mandy]

EJ,

I respect you a lot because you know how to stand up for yourself. Unfortunately, such 'quality' is questionable in this culture for the female counterpart. I know it is not fair but this is a different ball game here. In some culture, poeple will find you 'assertive' but in where you live, you are seen as too 'abrasive'. Sorry to say that and I don't mean to offend you. I just want to be upfront and honest. You have a right to express yourself as an individual and I respect that. But to choose that path, you are vulnerable to the so called 'harrasment' and 'resentment' so you have be aware of the repercussion. Now, if you were a guy, people will say that 'you are so cool, buddy'. But the fact is you are not.

[empress_julz]

thanks for the note of realism mandy.

you are right. unfortunately malaysia has quite a sexist culture i hope we shake off. i read a very good article by marina mahathir about it the other day - this whole rape talk about increasing the punishments deals with the aftermath. the entire situation of malaysia being a sexist culture which views women sexually and as submissive characters was not addressed at all. i agree with her in entirety.

true, we have to deal with it, but dealing with it is not the same as putting up with it.

thus, if you're suggesting i bow down and submit to this thinking, i'm afraid i will not do so. not only would it be unfair to me, it wouldn't be to other women as well. it's important to send a clear message out that some things are just not acceptable, sexism is not one of them. the road has to be paved.

it is not a part of malaysian culture, it is a gross mutation of values gone wrong. the value "respect your husband" for instance, does not mean take his nonsense and let him get away with murder, or allow him to beat you. (i have heard of families where this is the case)

i know i shock and upset many men. it is not the norm here to be disagreed with by a woman.

it's something my father taught me once.... better to sacrifice yourself than your principles.

i don't feel sorry if anyone can't take my opinions. they may come across as being strong, but that's because i know exactly what it is i want.

like in this case, i do not want to be harassed by this monkey or allowed to be insulted to prove what a nut he is.

how is that wrong?

///ej

[mandy]

EJ,

I need to address several issues here:

Issue #1:
[thus, if you're suggesting i bow down and submit to this thinking, i'm afraid i will not do so. not only would it be unfair to me, it wouldn't be to other women as well. it's important to send a clear message out that some things are just not acceptable, sexism is not one of them. the road has to be paved.]

No. I am NOT suggesting you need to BOW DOWN. It is good to be assertive and speak up your mind. But you need to prepare for the drawback. As simple as that.

Issue #2 - Submissive women are prone to domestic violence!?

[it is not a part of malaysian culture, it is a gross mutation of values gone wrong. the value "respect your husband" for instance, does not mean take his nonsense and let him get away with murder, or allow him to beat you. (i have heard of families where this is the case)]

Crying out loud!! If a husband abuses a wife, leave him RIGHT NOW!

Issue #3:
[it's something my father taught me once.... better to sacrifice yourself than your principles. ]

This is very cool, EJ. I like that.

[empress_julz]

hi mandy..

as for issue '1'.... i was not quite sure from your tone what direction you were coming from, especially with the last line. hence i said "thus, if..." and not "since you are suggesting.... "

but thanks for clearing it up, and my apologies if it came out the wrong way.

on issue '2'..... i agree with you totally. domestic violence of any kind is rubbish and should not be tolerated. but unfortunately i personally know of cases where women continue to be hit by fathers and husbands, even brothers, and stick on because of "Respect for the family and for the man".

///ej

[christopherngg]

Dear KWChang and Folks,

Even a fool could easily have gone through...all them previous posts from dr_luv.....it does not take much to realize that this man is not even treating his own family fairly(IF he ever gets a partner of the opposite sex gender)....

....I am thinking he could not even stand up to be amongst fagots or gays.....!

....This man is cruel.....

How could you allow such slime to tarnish the good reputations of this community website?

How could you allow such slimy maggot to exist within this healthy
community website environment?

How could you even be able to find enough excuse for this maggot to co-exist in your own rear ends?

One of My post, in response to "jesus died for you" was quietly burned from this web forum.....YA....you might be thinking no one would notice it right?....

Well you are wrong.....I do keep track of my own posting....as well as others.....

I am a responsible person....I make mistakes....I correct my mistakes....I try not to repeat it.....I am trying to be a better man....

But when I have to...I'll give sh.t....to any deserving ones....

and I am prepared to take all kinds.....from anyone willing to offer it to me....

But then again....I won't stand down quietly....knowing that there is a maggot out there in this web community is trying to harass another fellow member without any logical cause...

....as well as being allowed to make a mockery out of this community!

....SO PLEASE BURN THE UGLY POEM BY dr_luv.....

....BETTER STILL....BURN HIM FROM THIS WEB COMMUNITY...

....MAKE A JUSTIFIABLE EXAMPLE OF IT...FOR THE SAKE OF REST....


chris.

[vsat]

Wow,

First of all, who is this newbie spewing rants after rants? Seriously, dr_luv's poem is of no harm. I mean, if you read carefully, there's no such words like "maggots","****" or "faggots",
I wouldn't say it's a beautiful poem but it's a harmless one and that harmless poem kinda set the newbie off.

Secondly, EJ is back. I hope she tones down this time.

Lastly, I do have to admit the Forum was without any pizzazz for the last 2 months. We need to be more interesting.

[lord]

I think we are in no authority, except for the administrators of this forum, to kick-out anyone from the forum. If some of us have written about Jesus and stuff, we should also know that we are in no position to judge another!! Remember the verse, "don't look at the pick in your brother's eyes when you have a log in your own"!

[vsat]

EJ,

Somebody wrote a poem for you and that also you can create a huge havoc. It's wasn;t And for crying out loud, you demanded for the logs from Jeff.
That's a bit too free isn't it.