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    Year One girl kidnapped from SJKC Lick Hung

    Year One girl kidnapped from SJKC Lick Hung

    A seven-year-old girl’s first day at SJKC Lick Hung, SS19, turned out to be a horrendous experience when she was kidnapped by two men and a woman in Subang Jaya on Monday.

    Her parents only came to know of the kidnapping after receiving a telephone call the next day.

    The girl was released unharmed along the Kesas Highway near Shah Alam at 4.50pm yesterday after an unspecified amount of ransom was dropped off at an un-disclosed location.

    The girl’s 47-year-old father, an engineer, and mother, a 43-year-old university lecturer, had lodged a missing person’s report at the Subang Jaya police station at about 11pm after they found their daughter missing after school.

    Police have remained tight-lipped on the case and until Press time, no suspects have been arrested.

    MCA Public Services and Complaints bureau head Michael Chong had told reporters that the girl was sent to school at 12.50pm by a woman who had also picked up four other pupils. She did not accompany them into the school grounds as her car was blocking traffic.

    He said the woman later returned in the evening to pick up the pupils but the girl was missing.

    A reporter overheard the girl's father crying and pleading over the phone to lower the ransom from RM200,000 to RM10,000 for her daughter’s release.

    Details in Kanban

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    This news has been posted in another thread.

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    I want to see how our polis will solve this case in 2 weeks. In all likelihood this case will not warrant 2 week solving as no bn politicians children are involved and it does not involve a beautiful lady with a colourful lifestyle.

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    According to today's Star.. the title "parents say school not to blame", is that title really necessary? What is trying to be proven there? That there is always need to blame and defend? Quit the blame and defend system, and do something about the situation. Security guard said there were about 70 registered parents on the 1st day of school vs a normal of 40? Why stop parents on the 1st day even?

    In Taiwan, kidnap cases are not uncommon, but usually doesnt happen around the school. WHY?
    Simple.... parents are always welcome in the school b4 classes start. Kids who go in, cannot come out without written permission from the teacher, to be presented to the guard on the way out. Parents are always encouraged to spend time in class b4 it starts, to integrate with other kids, and teachers. That way all students are familiar with who are their classmates' parents, and that way they can look out for each other. They ask each other if they see someone they are unfamiliar with. During the 1st few days of school... teachers are armed with cameras and the school has surveillance cams everywhere. Teacher take pics of everything that goes on in class at every occasion. They know every parents' face.
    When i used to go to my kids' schools/... all their classmates know who i am. They talk to me, and that way they can monitor the movements of their classmates and adults around.
    Discouraging parents from entering the school premises merely makes every strangers. If you kid is being led away by a stranger and his/her own classmates witness it.. they wont even know if it is a parent or a stranger. No one knows anyone. In Taiwan, there are PTA members at every entrance of the school, and at every junction nearby, wearing school banners/jackets, leading the kids across the streets. They too are monitoring the regular walkers. They recognize familiar faces and most can even tell you who the kids' parents are. They call out to kids with adults they are not familiar with. They ask the kids..."is that your mom/dad?" Then when the kid responds.. they greet the adult, and introduce each other. It is a face to face thing. Everyone knows every familiar face. Everyone looks out for one another.

    As a former PTA member, i know most kids in the school even tho i might not know all their names. I encourage parents in appearing at school more often.. so that kids know who belongs there.

    Dont blame the buses, the guards, or any stupid reason. Just do something about it. My daughter got lost on the 1st day of school and had no idea how to get out. Good thing i spoke to the guard earlier that day and explained to him that the bus should not leave without her. Good thing too.. coz they went around looking for her when she didnt turn up. If classmates are taught to look out for one another, less mishaps will happen. It is a normal way of life to look out for those close by. And since they will be together for a year, more reason to do so. Parents should also know one another. that way they can look out for other kids too.

    The role of the PTA is not merely for fund raising. Not all parents are able to fork out money all the time, but some can certainly offer to help in school. Communism is not for Malaysia. Leave it in China pls. Dictatorship shouldnt be allowed. Parents and school administrators should work hand in hand all the time, not just for money matters. There is more to life than making money and making the grade. What's making the grade when well-being is at stake? What's all that money for when your child is not safe?

    Rethink stale ideas and open up to fresh new ideas. The school is not a military compound. It is a place of growing. Grow together as a community and as a family. This can only be achieved by knowing one another. Start with the children. They are smart. They will learn to look out for one another. Let them know who parents are. That is a start. Dont tell me it is not easy with such a large school. my daughter's school in Taiwan is almost double that size here and had more entrances/exits. There are volunteers at every exit everyday. There are volunteers at every junction everyday regardless of the sun, rain or cold. Teachers take turns everyday at the junctions too. Teachers and parents work hand in hand all the time. All schools in Taiwan hv the same system of having parents volunteer their services. Parents even help out b4 school starts in the morning by checking the kids homework, Making sure they hv it all done, and making sure the classroom is in good condition. If there is anything that needs to be fixed or cleaned.. it is done.

    Dont shut parents out. Principals???? Are you reading any of this?? Open up your minds and eyes. Parents? Take an active role in PTA. Work together!!
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    wowwee lady-o, sounds like u've just made it to hrh status. but i couldn't agree any less with u. problem is msians schs think security is achieved by keeping non students out of the sch. i breach the rules by hanging out in my daughter's sch and having fun (i mean honest legal kids fun ok) with her friends and her friends' friends. most of the students know me and know that little girl who belongs to me. whenever i show up there'll be bound to be a couple of kids shouting little miss joker is in the canteen or she is in the classroom or she went to the loo. i don't need electonic cams, tho i definitely advocate their use. yup, the pta (or pibg in local lingo) is an important forum, not only to make money, but to know how to and what to spend money on. i'm in the team in my daughter's sch, but its a battle making pompous modern city dwellers see that security issues must take precedent over comfort of nice toilet bowls and air conds or multiple fans etc. eg in my kids' morning session only sch we hv lots of kids staying back for activities or simply waiting for parents to finish work. they hang around the sch compound with no adult in sight except a guard who is half asleep most of the time. anybody can come and go in and out of the sch anytime after sch hrs. so i proposed that we pibg employ a full time librarian to man the library up to 5:30 or 6pm so that kids hv a comfortable and safe place to be and a place where time can be spent more fruitfully. but what happened? look at the bullet holes in me now. thats what happened. sick, really sick. so what m i doing? i'm lobbying for a new set of grey matter to join in the pibg and if i succeed i will make another attempt. this is a battle i'm going to win. i must. thats the attitude we parents must hv. never say die when faced with critical situations.

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    Hiya Joker..
    SUre hope you get your voice heard and followed soon. This nonsense of parents being shut out is ridiculous. Sometimes i wonder what goes on in some people's heads when they dont seem to want to do anything for the good of their children.. or are they so warped in their ideas, and see it in some narrow minded way. No PIBG can function fully well without give and take.. sharing of ideas, and cooperation on both sides. Granted, there are some pushy parents who bulldoze their way, and want to be heard for their own interests like how some politician-wanna-be's do it. I've seen them in action, believe me. I know what pushy parents are like. I prefer to stay quietly at the sidelines and make my suggestions as and when needed. But i can tell you that once my voice is heard, there is no escaping. i wait till i cant take it anymore then i give it back and hit hard with a smile.

    At least u know how good it is to hv yur child's classmates know you. If a stranger comes in and talks to your child, all his/her friends will take notice of it immediately. Whenever i am at my kids' schools, some of their former classmates still remember me and call out and greet me with a smile. Like in your case.. they also tell me where my child is. Teachers call me every now and then to let me know how they are doing in school, and also msg me via internet. We discuss class parties, school activities, field trips and supervision of kids during activities.

    Also emergency planning should be discussed. Granted there is no earthquake or typhoon here, but there should be some kinda of emergency planning. Like a few parents in every class (eg: PIBG officers of each class) hv the duty to contact and be in contact with the rest of the class parents in case of emergency so that the school will not be flooded with calls. The school will only inform PIBG officers of the situation and it is up to the parents to call those officers for info. With modern SMS and internet messengers, there should be no problems in terms of communication.

    At the moment i am so damn pissed over certain rules that certain principals enforce as they feel like it , making communism alive in M'sia, but then again, i am going to 'try' and keep my cool for a bit more. Even the military in Taiwan is more flexible and reasonable. Give some people power and they get so damn thick in the head.

    I cant believe the attitudes of some people here after all these years. One would think attitudes would hv improved, but alas... i am wrong. Hong Kong is going to look like social wonderland compared to here soon.
    okay... I hv let out enough steam for the moment. ahhhh....

    Good luck Joker!
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    Exclamation

    I refer to an article by YVONNE LEE SHU YEE titled ?New twist to kidnapping?published on Thursday 8th January in Section 2 ....

    Administrator's note -
    We have moved PCYeoh's contribution to a new thread entitled "story probably based on a hoax" available at the following link -
    http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/uploa...?threadid=4266

    We apologise for any inconvenience as we wish to maintain the topic on its main tract here.
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    We are looking at a kidnapping case here and Lady-O and Joker are trying to come up with solutions. By you posting your 'bone of contention' here, are you saying that the kidnapping is not true?
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    Unhappy

    Administrator's note -

    Our apologies to aimless as we have moved his contribution to the relevant thread to preserve continuity.
    Please refer to http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/uploa...3732#post23732
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    Gentlemen - Can we get back to more serious matter at hand? That of concerned parents who have children in the school and the suggestions they are now looking at? Thank you.
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    Administrator's note -

    Our apologies to joker2107 as we have moved his contribution to the relevant thread to preserve continuity.
    Please refer to http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/uploa...3732#post23732
    Last edited by kwchang; 09-01-2004 at 07:00 PM.

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    Gentlemen,

    Firstly, this thread is discussing the issue of kidnappings in school and how we should address the problem.

    This hot topic prompted an article in the papers about an 'attempted' kidnapping. This story however is very much like an email hoax that some of us are familiar with. PCYeoh decided to add this story into this thread.

    CHLuke was trying to impress on you lot that the story of believing a hoax should not be placed on this thread. Obviously PCYeoh thought that it is related and thus appropriate to be on the same line. However, in doing that, the thread became diluted with a hoax. What PC should have done is to start another thread with reference to this one. So we have 2 - one seriously debating the kidnapping issue and another discussing how people believe in hoaxes and that itself may grow towards discussions on hoaxes and develop beyond kidnapping per se.

    Therefore, I have relocated PCYeoh's story to another thread for ease of management.
    Please refer to http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/uploa...3732#post23732
    Last edited by kwchang; 09-01-2004 at 07:02 PM.

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    Is kidnapping a crime punishable by death in our law?

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    If i am not wrong, yes.

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    Now that one kidnap case is losing heat, do we just sit back and forget it for now til another one happens b4 anything is done? How many rapes, murder and kidnappings does it take b4 anything is done? How many missing little girls and boys does it take to make people realize that action has to be taken?

    When will schools call for a PIBG meeting for suggestions on improving safety? Would it be possible for the Ministry of Education to make a nationwide call for every school in M'sia to hold PIBG meetings to discuss how this matter can be handled? From each M'sia to West M'sia, little children are no longer safe.
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