Enough is Enough

[Cool Hand Luke]

A particular thread here is deeply offensive to women in particular and decent human beings in general. As a friend of Canny Ong, I urge the person not even to mention her name in the same breath as other comments (twisted justification and sheer hypocrisy) made by him. You insult her memory, insult all the women out there and insult forum members. I have heard about freedom of speech but I have also been told that freedom of speech comes with responsibility. Let good sense and decency prevails. Thank you.

[vceg]

He's doing it just to see the responses of the forumers here.

Whether he is doing it for the attention, only he knows.

Whether he really believes the views he is putting forward, only he knows.

I think he gets a big kick out of all the responses he has been getting from his posts.

I think he thinks long and hard for the next topic to get the most possible response whether good or bad (preferable bad).

Just ignore if we think that it is not even worth the time for us to type a response. He will eventually lose the "fun" he's been getting.

[Cool Hand Luke]

I received a lot of suggestions about this. Can we all please stop replying to all of his threads?. And I mean all; past, current and future. Of course, the choice is yours if you want to encourage him.

[kwchang]

Early this morning, Dr_Luv posted a thread with the topic of "A Rapist's Fantasy"

This was done pretty distastefully and elicited many open complaints which we reproduce below in its entirety minus Dr_Luv's comments...

simon_tan
10-12-2003 08:26 PM

Offensive and not funny
please delete.


left side hung
10-12-2003 11:06 PM

dr luv, this isn't about thinking out of the box. you should understand that this mentality belongs only to the uncivlized.
no, that would be an insult to jungle people. this is sick. i'm not digusted about thinking about the box, i'm digusted at the idea itself, there is a difference.
how can a man possibly blame an indecent act on the way a woman is dressed? i mean, if he somehow cant, his stupidity makes me sick to my core. i'm not even going to talk about how down right pathetic the man must be. people who think along these lines are a constant reminder that malaysia will never be a developed nation.
let me put it this way, if you had a much nicer, larger car than i did, would it be your fault for "instigating" me, causing me to break into your house and then stealing your car?
* most rapists only rape women they know well, only the minority risk raping a stranger.


Joecool
11-12-2003 08:33 AM

The way someone dress is not an invitation for rape. People who have been very decently dressed including those wearing the tudung has been raped. So what is your point?


Left 4th Finger
11-12-2003 10:04 AM

"Eye of newt, and toe of frog,
Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg, and howlet's wing,--
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble."


Hspace
11-12-2003 11:49 AM

dr_luv,
You're weird. From your questions, you're also not that old are you. Also, your sig, "Mess with me and die like the rest".....?
1) Because biology makes them horny, and they think they can own what is not theirs
2) Unfortunately, basic human nature is whenever someone tells you that you can't own it, the more you want it.
3) Whoever says that looking at a sexily-dressed woman does not make you horny is lying. Yes, education about right and wrong, the worth of a woman and how you can morally satiate or control your sex drive, are solutions.
Did you raise this issue one too many times, tough boy? People are beginning to get pissed. Get a productive hobby, and your mind off sex until you get married.


Administrator's note
For the health of the community and due respect to all concerned, especially the ladies, this action has to be taken. We did not remove his thread immediately as we wanted to get feedback. All the responses were spontaneous and unsolicited.

We thank you for your patience.

[empress_julz]

kwchang, i do not understand why you even need our "feedback" with these issues.

note the topic was a "rapists' fantasy", not "why rape happens" or "the causes of rape", but a "rapists' fantasy". it was clearly to fuel his sick mind. he wanted the responses.

worst case scenario? he wants to rape and he wants to find a justification to rape, hence the question about whether it's "okay" if the woman was scantily clad.

all his threads have been about violence towards women. he has mentioned canny ong and noritta, and put their attackers in a positive light.

even the threads that start of innocent, end up being tainted. always sex, sex, sex, sex. and note, he always had the answers or a view, he was just playing our minds to see how he can twist. he is not as dumb as one thinks.

he is a sick SOB who has rape fantasies.

he has threatened forum members before.

what do you need our feedback about?

leaving his posts there for responses (which he knows he'll get) is just fuelling his fantasies. he is a sick man who enjoys the violence not only from the point of view of the act itself, but the disgust and outrage society gives him.

why allow him to fuel his fantasies?

personally if he is not banned i really have to reconsider the standards of this forum and what is really *acceptable*.

as was mentioned, this forum is supposed to be *safe* for younger people. it is supposed to be "safe" for the older people too, but can we even say that now?

and for the individual who put him in a positive light and championed him.... congratulations, you can now be held in the same regard as this monster.

///ej

[empress_julz]

my honest "guess"?

this guy is calculative. he has come in here as a "normal" member, surveyed the situation in this forum, and decided it's the perfect place for him to wreack havoc.

hence, he deviates from his usual nick, his alter ego self comes out and annoys the hell out of all.

it's only natural, that's how these people work.

i'm not surprised if he truly has split personality disorder. normal in real life, but a devious mind at home. hence he comes on the cyberworld for his kicks.

i really hope he gets some help before he hurts himself or others.

ps..... he does not live in sierramas, he is a usj resident. (his "202...." i.p. clearly says so) my guess is, at the outer rims of usj, possibly usj 3. he is a pathological liar.

///ej

[jericho]

Kwchang and co. did the right thing to get others feedback before taking action in order not to be accused as being biased later on. Gather other forumer views and decide the next course of action upon the feedback received will no doubt cause DrLuv to have no reason to accuse Kwchang of being biased again like what he did in the other thread.

I would like to suggest a further step, to ban DrLuv and the person behind him if in future DrLuv keeps posting similar distasteful and offensive topic/comment in this Forum. The duration of the ban is up to KwChang and co. to decide.

I believe some of us here are aware who is the 'person' behind DrLuv.

[Joecool]

How does an IP address starting with 202.x.x.x indicates someone is from USJ 3? I really like to know this. The IP address of 202.75.160.230 belongs to MAXISNET which means he could use it anywhere in Malaysia.

[kwchang]

Jericho,
Thanks for your understanding and stating the obvious.

However, let us not limit this to the current nick in question. If we decide to BAN, we will do it regardless who it may be.

[Joecool]

I have edited my post for clarity. I am referring to EJ's post which insinuated that the IP address used meant he is staying at USJ probably USJ 3. I stay at USJ 3.

[jericho]

Right, kwchang. Anyone found to be offensive and post distasteful topic/comment should be BAN.

[Cool Hand Luke]

Joecool - Calm down. Nothing to get agitated about. EJ may have other other evidence beside the IP to indicate that our good friend is in USJ3.

[Joecool]

The point I am trying to make is not that I am the one. I am typing this while in my office in KLCC. No where near USJ 3. I did a search based on the IP address and it belongs to MAXIS and it was registered while MAXIS was still in Subang HiTech. So what she said about him not staying at Sierra based on his IP address is not true. I am really calm. Not to worry.

[empress_julz]

joecool no one said it is you lah, i think we all know that well enough.

CHL is right, i have other info up my sleeves. and it does not take a genius to find these things, i think other forum members have as well. he was intelligent enough to leave a trail online, including a name that can be followed up.

and as a future precaution, you should not state where you work, where you live, where you sent your kids to school, personal information as such. that is dangerous and the information can be used against you.

and especially your full name. never ever use your full name in public forums. jumbling it up does not do much.

as we know this guy is amongst proof that not everyone is "stable".

even jericho "knows", a lot of people do... i think that's why he's so quiet now, maybe?

logically, does anybody think he is that stupid to give out his house address? read his posts, he is cocky, but not stupid. and that's probably why he pulled out the entire thread directed towards CHL and me, because word got around that we went to the authorities.

///ej

[dr_luv]

Sincere apologies to all members of the forums

Well, here I am feeling rather bad about some things I said a few weeks ago concerning both woman and members of forum. No, I'm not trying to get back into the good graces of Forum - but I would like to offer my apologies to rest of the forum members and those those who got offended because my thread. and I feel it's time to let go of my way and make a sincere apology sincere apology to the posters on this forum for my rude, arrogant, behavior, being jerk and obnoxious.

I've displayed an unjustified attitude of superiority towards others, and in general, acted as if I were somehow special and intelliegent.

This is a great place and I'd like to take the black marks off my face so please accept my apologies.

I have no right to criticize 'everyone especially woman in general ', nor do I have the right to scold other posters for some imagined breach of 'respect' and indecent.

Again, I want to apologize and ask that the people I've treated so unfairly to forgive me for my trespasses.

May You All Have A Wonderfull Christmas Full With Warm Loving Feelings and Happy New Year.