Food for thought. One member (who shall remained nameless) just told me that this forum is no longer as popular as it used to be because it should be called 'Web-Debate' instead of forum as people are arguing all the time. The exact message I get is (quote) "Are you guys exchanging ideas? They have never seen your points from your points of view and you also never do that. Everyone keeps arguing. What the difference of KPC ladies arguing in the wet market?" Wow. That hurts. So good people, have we - without intention - kill off this forum? We need to do damage control and do things differently if this statement holds some water. Again, your views, please. This should be, perhaps, a real community forum and not for a few of us to turn it into a gladiator's arena.