Condo layout

[opulant]

I found the layout of new condo is getting smaller and some even scrap the idea of bigger unit..

I went to two new sales offices on weekend – Puchong and Sunway, can’t find anything more than 1800 sqft !!

The one in Puchong sucks big time, due to the density of units and multiple numbers of block. All units are tiny sparrow hole (not fit as pigeon hole) with layout size of 650 sqft to 1400 sqft. Selling price is around RM690 per sqft. It is sad to see people have to pay so much for shithole living….

The one in Sunway is much better, only one exclusive block, around RM880 per sqft. The biggest unit is 1770 sqft but due to the layout of 4+1 rooms and 3 bathrooms, the bedroom size and the living hall are small. Can’t even put a upright piano in the living hall, don’t even think of grand piano… and difficult to squeeze a 2 seater couch or an armchair into the master bedroom. Master bathroom is the usual shower enclosure, not enough space for ceramic bathtub. Wonder who the f would spend RM1.6 million and live in such a confined space !!

10 years ago, still can find big units like 2500 sqft but it is rare now. I guess it is supply and demand – smaller units yield better ROI for those wo buy for investment.. and also higher demand from younger buyers.

[tupai]

in Phuket & Samui, many 33sq m condo apartments are selling well. Min Baht 3,000,000 with just a pool or mountain view. Anything with seaview is 7mill up!
In Melbourne, CBD 50sq m is common and priced from AUD500K up...
In Berlin, 30sq m high rise apartments are sprouting up like mushroom and even those in red light district are priced at €200K up!

If only Kuantan sea side property do not have the friggin Lynas and bauxite mining overhanging cloud....*sigh*

[opulant]

in Phuket & Samui, many 33sq m condo apartments are selling well. Min Baht 3,000,000 with just a pool or mountain view. Anything with seaview is 7mill up!
In Melbourne, CBD 50sq m is common and priced from AUD500K up...
In Berlin, 30sq m high rise apartments are sprouting up like mushroom and even those in red light district are priced at €200K up!

If only Kuantan sea side property do not have the friggin Lynas and bauxite mining overhanging cloud....*sigh*

I am talking about malaisia...

30 sqm is about 310 sqft, 50 sqm is less than 540 sqft. All these sparrow holes are NOT for human lah..

[cskok8]

I am talking about malaisia...

30 sqm is about 310 sqft, 50 sqm is less than 540 sqft. All these sparrow holes are NOT for human lah..

In that case there are very few hoomans in Hong Kong

[opulant]

In that case there are very few hoomans in Hong Kong

Too bad... they were born there.

Same same apply to those in Shanghai... most are having shithole living due to the scarcity of land.

Btw, even in places where land is dirt cheap like in the wild wild mid-west of somewhere, life can be shithole also. It was reported recently that more than 60% of American cannot afford to come out with emercency fund of USD1000 !!

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/18/few-...emergency.html

[opulant]

.....If only Kuantan sea side property do not have the friggin Lynas and bauxite mining overhanging cloud....*sigh*

Toxicity level in klang valley from CO₂, CO, NO_x, benzene, sulfur, etc etc are as bad as those shits from lynas, bauxite or rare earth...

It is the zero-existence of well-run G&G properties in these coastal towns (not just east coast, west coast of peninsula included) that is the problem.

Otherwise, I would have been living in an elevated hut with sea view at malacca or port dickson looong time ago...


p/s : I prefer malacca and port dickson as it is only 1 to 1.5 hours to kl. Penang is just too freaking far

[Naka]

A small condo/apartment in Sheung Wan, Hong Kong of 1,100 sf is HKD15 millions or about RM6,900 psf

A small apartment near Thames River, London of about 825 sf is about £800,000.00 or RM4,800 psf

A small apartment, Perth of 1500 sf is about RM1,000 psf

But it is like RM700 psf in KL.


Seriously, buy buy buy if not for you but your grandchildren or great grandchildren.

[opulant]

It is not about the property price, it is about the layout design of the property.

For example, a 1700 sqft condo should not design with 4 bedrooms, let alone with 4 bedrooms + 1 study room !! Once the bedroom size is reduced by increasing the numbers of room, this is shithole living relative to the money paid.

This also impact the overall dimension of the living hall which becomes very restricted. As a result, there is no dining hall. Dining space is a part of living hall now, just like those pathetic linked-houses in USJ.

When I told them about condo with a separate dining hall, and the dining hall comes with windows, they are like a lost amazon tribe who saw a TV first time !!

[Naka]

That is your requirement but others with bigger families think it's perfect.

The smallest room can be allocated to a maid.

Alternatively, you can always reduce it to a 3 room --condo with a bit of renovation

[opulant]

That is your requirement but others with bigger families think it's perfect..

Although they will be few who find such layout ideal for their family but from my experience living in condo in the past 30 years in malaysia and overseas, I know condo is not for big familiy especially in Malaysia. It is unlikely people here will spend an amount of money for a condo which can buy a big linked house or a semi-D to cater for their big family.

The reason for more rooms is only one - when smaller unit like 1300 or 1500 sqft comes with 3 rooms, people expect bigger unit like 1700 sqft should have more rooms than the smaller unit or else it is difficult to sell..

..Alternatively, you can always reduce it to a 3 room --condo with a bit of renovation

No ... master bedroom is always designed to share wall with living hall, other smaller rooms would be located at the back. As such, it is impossible to enlarge the master bedroom, only possible to combine the smaller rooms into one room by removing the wall in between the smaller rooms.

This won't change the size of the master bedroom and the living hall.

[Naka]

There many people who buy condos to rent out, so more rooms maybe an advantage & easier to rent out.

I do not think there are strict rules on the design of Master bedrooms.

[Henry T]

It must be a Malaysian thing. You will notice the first question prospective buyers will ask is how many bedrooms. They just want more bedrooms.

Property developers want to make the price affordable. With the current per sq ft price being what it is they reduce the overall size. And since people like more bedrooms they squeeze in one more than necessary.

In my discussions on residential properties, with family and friends, I have always said that there is plenty of land in Malaysia. All residential properties should be at least 1.5 times the present size. That would be comfortable living.


Note:
1) Property prices only sky-rocketed from late 2009/early 2010.
2) The RM started its slippery slide downwards from April 2015.

[tupai]

Toxicity level in klang valley from CO₂, CO, NO_x, benzene, sulfur, etc etc are as bad as those shits from lynas, bauxite or rare earth...

It is the zero-existence of well-run G&G properties in these coastal towns (not just east coast, west coast of peninsula included) that is the problem.

Otherwise, I would have been living in an elevated hut with sea view at malacca or port dickson looong time ago...


p/s : I prefer malacca and port dickson as it is only 1 to 1.5 hours to kl. Penang is just too freaking far

SOKONG! East coast Kuantan sans Lynas & Bauxite would be ideal...BTW, the condo project near BatuHitam/Gebeng just texted me and they have lucky draw to win a Proton (?) plus they reduced deposit to a measly rm1000....Nope! I ain't biting! Y would I wanna be so lucky to win a proton?
Jokers in there don't even understand the potential customers' psychography. Seriously, buy an aprtment unit and qualify in a lucky draw to win a proton?

[opulant]

..I do not think there are strict rules on the design of Master bedrooms.

It's not about strict rules...

The layout is always designed to give the best view/direction to living hall and master bedroom. Hence, the window and/or balcony of master bedroom is always the same direction with the balcony of living hall - for north/south direction and facing the better view.

Due to this layout arrangement, the master bedroom has to share a wall with living hall that separate them and thus not possible to enlarge the master bedroom without affecting/reducing the living hall..

[Naka]

Some Master Bedrooms are at the front of the house while some are right at the back of the house.

Please explain this