B segment SUVs

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Talk about attractive price vs specifications/luxury/safety/etc, nothing can beat this one (in the same segment)

http://www.volvocars.com/my/cars/new-models/v40

If you are the driver who fancy high horse power from a small 2.0 litre engine, this model probably is the last one from them. With OTR price of RM181k, no other cars can match this car in Malaysia..

The car mentioned above can generate 245hp and the max torque is 350Nm, the on-the-road price is RM180,888.

I read this piece of news today.. https://topgear.com.my/index.php?opt...ews&Itemid=173

" Mercedes-Benz Malaysia’s Dream Car Collection adds another member – the E-Class Coupe, in two variants of E200 AMG Line and E300 AMG Line. Powering the cars are the same 4-cylinder 2.0-litre force-fed engine that makes 184hp/300Nm (E200 Coupe AMG Line) and 245hp/370Nm for the E300 AMG Line. Price for the former is RM435,888 while the E300 Coupe is RM499,888. "

Well, maybe it is unfair to compare a Swedish family sedan with Mercedes AMG but I would expect the power plant inside the Mercedes AMG to be a lot more bigger than a Swedish family sedan especially the price tag is so much higher. To me, the ultimate measure is the power output of the car engine. ALL the materials advancement, design breakthrough and power plant/drive line improvement must be able to reflect in the power output.

Look at the E200, the price tag is 2.5 times more expensive but the horsepower is only 75% of the Swedish family car, and the E300 is 2.75 times more expensive with the same horsepower... !!

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I always not interested in buying continental marque owing to the numerous mechanical problems and high cost maintaining.

Actually, it is the electronics that give more problems. Mechanical problems are normally the by-product of the electronics problems..

The most common is the sensor. Nowadays, hell a lot of sensors are installed into various control modules of the vehicle like the TCM (transmission control module), ECM (engine control module), etc.

The sensor itself is not costly, less than RM1000 but the location of the sensor always require extensive dismantling and replacement of other components/parts. For example, if the sensor of TCM fails, in order to replace a new sensor, you have to remove the transmission grearbox from the engine and thus the seal between the engine and gearbox has to be replaced. The automatic transmission fluid has to be replaced (ATF for high performance car is almost RM900 per replacement). On top of that, all the cap, lock nut, flange, gasket, etc have to b replaced once dismantled. The total costs of other parts that are still in good conditions but have to be removed and replaced can be 2-3 times higher than the sensor !!

Well, when I sit on this couch, that means I am contributing some money to them... Wtf

[jan tomaswaki]

[QUOTE=opulant;610375]Actually, it is the electronics that give more problems. Mechanical problems are normally the by-product of the electronics problems..

The most common is the sensor. Nowadays, hell a lot of sensors are installed into various control modules of the vehicle like the TCM (transmission control module), ECM (engine control module), etc.

With so many sensors and full of potholes and bumps and not to specs bump in Malaysia , those sensors get kaput faster.

[opulant]

.....A few weeks ago, the manufacturer has announced officially that they will stop producing cars fitted only with internal combustion engine after 2019. All future cars will be either electric cars or hybrid cars...

On top of the above announcement from a car manufacturer, here is another unprecedented announcement..

"Shell CEO, Van Beurden plans to start driving a Mercedes Benz S500e in September and says the world in general needs to move to a higher percentage of electric vehicles to keep global warming at bay—and he expects to see demand for fossil fuels start to waver in the next couple of decades. "
http://fortune.com/2017/07/27/shell-ceo-electric-car/

I think when the boss of Europe’s biggest oil company says his next car will be electric, it says a lot about the future of fossil fuels.

This is the 1st time in the past 30 years, I am pessimistic about the O&G upstream future. I think hydrocarbon will still remain as the main feedstock for petrochemical industries ... but no longer a key component for future energy demand.

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What impact to us ???

Well, everything that you guys enjoyed and still enjoying (federal subsidies and all sorts of state freebies like free water, free bus, etc, etc) are a direct contribution of hydrocarbon found offshore Terengganu and Sarawak/Sabah. When the crude price is much lower than now due to the reducing demand as source of energy, life will never be the same again..

[opulant]

The Toyota C-HR has arrived... but are they serious or not ??

With a small 1.2 liter engine which is turbocharged to churn out 114hp, they called this a sport utility vehicle ??

and the max power output of another variant which is fitted with a 1.8 liter natural aspirated engine is 140hp ??

http://www.carsifu.my/news/droves-of...-hr-on-display

[jan tomaswaki]

The Toyota HR-V has arrived... but are they serious or not ??

With a small 1.2 liter engine which is turbocharged to churn out 114hp, they called this a sport utility vehicle ??

http://www.carsifu.my/news/droves-of...-hr-on-display

It's CHR , 1.8 litre not turbo as many think. Ppl think driving a turbo is like driving a Ferrari or Lamborghini like the VW Polo, that gives huge problem, so Toyota play safe ..no turbo.

[opulant]

It's CHR , 1.8 litre not turbo as many think. Ppl think driving a turbo is like driving a Ferrari or Lamborghini like the VW Polo, that gives huge problem, so Toyota play safe ..no turbo.

Yes, it is C-HR. I have corrected my post.

The 1.2 liter comes with turbo...

Look at the picture of the car bonnet provided by the link, it is too cramped and messy...

How the hell they do service job for this car ??

http://www.carsifu.my/news/droves-of...-hr-on-display

[Henry T]

I'm told the version sold here will be the 1.8L NA, CBU Thailand. It is probably a strip down version to keep it affordable.

This CH-R will be in direct competition with the Honda HRV.

In S'pore it is the 1.2L Turbo version.

I'll pass. I have booked the Mazda 3 2.0 sedan instead.

[opulant]

....Ppl think driving a turbo is like driving a Ferrari or Lamborghini ..

I think people often mixed-up between power, speed and torque. In my opinion, turbocharged engine only increases the power output (by forcing more air into the combustion chamber and thus more fuel is burn within the same time interval compare with a natural aspirated engine). The incremental power can be transmitted to speed and/or torque depend on the driving condition/requirement at that time.

For example, when you are driving with low speed around your neighbourhood, most of the extra power generated from turbocharger will be transformed to extra torque for that sudden surge and then the gearbox will do the job by selecting the right gear ratio to give you the extra speed.

However, when you are driving at high speed on highway(relatively constant speed), let's say you want to pass the car in front and need to accelerate your car from speed x to speed y in order to do the overtaking. The question now is - your car is at which rpm range at speed x ? ... and since you are already driving at higher speed (higher RPM), the turbocharger may not work at this instance.

[Henry T]

Anyone bought the latest Honda CR-V?

This car is actually C-segment but instead of opening a new thread I will continue here. Screenshot_2017-11-01-16-47-50-916_com.android.chrome.jpg,

[Henry T]

[jan tomaswaki]

The XV cost RM125K w/o insurance after discount of RM23K.Think difficult to sell. Now i am eyeing the BMW 316/318.Anyone try this car before and the price?

[opulant]

The XV cost RM125K w/o insurance after discount of RM23K.Think difficult to sell. Now i am eyeing the BMW 316/318.Anyone try this car before and the price?

My sister got a 318 recently, it is 1.5L turbo.

About RM195k inclusive of road tax and insurance.

Even with the turbo, 1.5L is still underpowered..

[Henry T]

My sister got a 318 recently, it is 1.5L turbo.

About RM195k inclusive of road tax and insurance.

Even with the turbo, 1.5L is still underpowered..

It is a turbo-charged three cylinder engine. The same one they put into the current Mini Cooper (not Cooper S).


Btw, I bought the CR-V 2.0L. Didn't go for the heavily discounted 2016 Subaru Forester after all. The new Subaru XV is nice.


The forthcoming B-segment Toyota C-HR 1.8L is estimated to be sold @ 146k w/o insurance. It is going to be tough selling this relatively small SUV at this price.

[opulant]

It is a turbo-charged three cylinder engine. The same one they put into the current Mini Cooper (not Cooper S).

Btw, I bought the CR-V 2.0L. Didn't go for the heavily discounted 2016 Subaru Forester after all. The new Subaru XV is nice.

The forthcoming B-segment Toyota C-HR 1.8L is estimated to be sold @ 146k w/o insurance. It is going to be tough selling this relatively small SUV at this price.

Yes, it's a 3 cylinder engine !! Imagine the margin they made for a 3 cylinder-engine vehicle with that kind of pricing !!

I told my sister if you want to enjoy a premium car, should buy their high-end model, not their entry level model but since this is a company vehicle, it's ok you chose 318 based on your entitlement limit.

Never spend your own money buying an entry level vehicle just because you fancy the emblem. With budget of less than RM200k, the Nissan Teana 2.5L or Toyota Camry is a better car than a BMW318... (except the emblem) !!