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    B segment SUVs

    This segment in the car industry is the new battleground. Almost every manufacturer is jumping in.

    We already have the Honda HR-V, Mazda CX3 and Renault Captur.

    Soon to arrive are the Toyota CH-R, Citroen C3 Aircross and Hyundai Kona. Hopefully their arrival will brighten up an otherwise pessimistic domestic car market.









    If I were to buy one I will either go for the Toyota or Hyundai. What about you?
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    These are just the "affordable" models.

    I have not included the upmarket models from Audi, BMW, Mercedes and Volvo. They are in this segment too.

    Then there is the in-between model like the Subaru XV with its iconic AWD. The replacement is coming sometime later this year.

    Outgoing model (I have this)


    Replacement model
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry T View Post
    I have not included the upmarket models from Audi, BMW, Mercedes and Volvo. They are in this segment too.
    I think for this segment, the Japanese, Korean and the non-upmarket European brands are the better choices.

    The pricing is too high for this upmarket ones in this segment but nothing special from their offerings vs others. For example the BMW X1, just too pricey for their offerings, nothing to shout both interior and performance..
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    Quote Originally Posted by opulant View Post
    I think for this segment, the Japanese, Korean and the non-upmarket European brands are the better choices.

    The pricing is too high for this upmarket ones in this segment but nothing special from their offerings vs others. For example the BMW X1, just too pricey for their offerings, nothing to shout both interior and performance..

    Indeed, the premium to pay on such upmarket models are just too much. But to many car buyers pragmatism is way down the list of priorities. The allure of the badge is irresistible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry T View Post
    .....But to many car buyers pragmatism is way down the list of priorities. The allure of the badge is irresistible.
    This "badge" priority has affected their offerings ( I am not sure whether this is only happening here as these upmarket cars aren't really that ''upmarket" in their country of origin )

    For example, the entry level BMW 3 series, 318i. I think not many will know this car is a 3 cylinders, 1.5 liter car !! I believe this is to reduce the car price to make it more affordable for those who are obsessed with the badge but struggling with the price (if it is a 1.8 or 2.0 litre engine). The list price is RM205k which is quite affordable for those who want to stretch their limit with current low interest rate and long repayment period...
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    Quote Originally Posted by opulant View Post
    This "badge" priority has affected their offerings ( I am not sure whether this is only happening here as these upmarket cars aren't really that ''upmarket" in their country of origin )

    For example, the entry level BMW 3 series, 318i. I think not many will know this car is a 3 cylinders, 1.5 liter car !! I believe this is to reduce the car price to make it more affordable for those who are obsessed with the badge but struggling with the price (if it is a 1.8 or 2.0 litre engine). The list price is RM205k which is quite affordable for those who want to stretch their limit with current low interest rate and long repayment period...

    The way I see it, this is how the upmarket brands muscle into the lower end market. Btw, the Mini Cooper (not the Cooper S) has the same 3 cylinder engine as the current BMW 318i. It is strange to see how some Beemers have morphed from being a 6 to 4 and now to 3 cylinders. Emission control is one thing but cost cutting must be the #1 reason, which is not a bad thing.

    The other example is the Mercedes A Class. Though it has many variants there is always the relatively bare bones version which is pretty affordable. This or a fully loaded non-upmarket brand for the same money? There is still a thing called choice.
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