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    Lightbulb Hanyu Shuiping Kaoshi (HSK) - Mandarin "TOEFL"

    This is FYI only.

    Something for parents whose children are not taking the UPSR/PT3/SPM Mandarin route. This may be an alternative.

    MCA Ministers in MOE and DZ equate SPM Mandarin to be equivalent to HSK Level 6.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanyu_Shuiping_Kaoshi

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    The Hŕnyǔ Shuǐpíng Kǎoshě (HSK) (Chinese: 汉语水平考试), translated as the Chinese Proficiency Test[1] or the Chinese Standard Exam, is China's only standardized test of Standard Chinese language proficiency for non-native speakers such as foreign students and overseas Chinese. It is not uncommon to refer to a standard or level of proficiency by the HSK level number, or score. For example, a job description might ask for foreign applicants with "HSK5 or better." The test is administered by Hanban, an agency of the Ministry of Education of the People's Republic of China.


    Good resource website: http://www.hsk.academy/
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    Quote Originally Posted by currymee View Post
    Something for parents whose children are not taking the UPSR/PT3/SPM Mandarin route. This may be an alternative...
    Maybe the reading and listening part, the writting part is tough to learn after primary school..

    Quote Originally Posted by currymee View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanyu_Shuiping_Kaoshi

    MCA Ministers in MOE and DZ equate SPM Mandarin to be equivalent to HSK Level 6.
    Based on the level descriptions of test , I thnk SPM Mandarin is beyond level 6.
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    Have a look at the sample exam paper for HSK 6. I was informed that it is equivalent or higher in terms of depth of command but different exam format. HSK6 is the requirement to enter Beijing University (BeiTa) and Tsinghua.

    http://www.hsk.academy/static/pdfs/HSK6.pdf

    The exam audio file is available in the same website under Practice Test: http://www.hsk.academy/en/hsk_6
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    Quote Originally Posted by currymee View Post
    Have a look at the sample exam paper for HSK 6. I was informed that it is equivalent or higher in terms of depth of command but different exam format. HSK6 is the requirement to enter Beijing University (BeiTa) and Tsinghua.

    http://www.hsk.academy/static/pdfs/HSK6.pdf

    Part 1 (listening)

    Can't comment unless I listen to the questions

    Part 2 (reading)
    Easy

    Part 3 (writing)
    Question 71-75 (fill in the blank with own words) and question 101 (essay summary) are tough and answers can be very subjective especially for question 71-75. Other questions are average, not difficult. Those who can score A in SPM can ace this level 6 writing test.

    I didn't come from Chinese independent school, not sure about the standard of their Mandarin exam but I believe is tougher than SPM Mandarin.
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    These are my opinions.

    HSK is interesting for me as I am considering this route for my children in learning and mastering Mandarin.

    It is well designed and systematically structured with global recognition. The children can take the exams as and when they are ready with options to retake if they did not do well enough, just like TOEFL. These are the advantages that I can see compared to the current school-based and time-limiting (cramming) SJKC/SMJK/UEC Mandarin curriculum.

    It is just another of the multiple options and routes which the rest of the world is taking in learning Mandarin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opulant View Post
    Part 1 (listening)
    Can't comment unless I listen to the questions.
    Quote Originally Posted by currymee View Post
    ..The exam audio file is available in the same website under Practice Test: http://www.hsk.academy/en/hsk_6
    Ok.. I listend to the exam questions.

    The questions are easy to me .... but I am not sure whether the listening test is easy to a 17/18 years old student.

    We (malaysian chinese) actually are very weak in listening and talking due to the "rojak language" environment ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by currymee View Post
    These are my opinions.
    It is well designed and systematically structured with global recognition. The children can take the exams as and when they are ready with options to retake if they did not do well enough, just like TOEFL. These are the advantages that I can see compared to the current school-based and time-limiting (cramming) SJKC/SMJK/UEC Mandarin curriculum.
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    I can't see the logic.

    Learning language is a continuous process. That's why the SJKC/SMJK/UEC cramp the curruculum content at different age groups to build the level foundation before advancing to next level. Once the students are in Form 5 or other equivalent final year of secondary school, they are ready for the exam.

    For a student (full time student), you can't learn Mandarin and sit for Mandarin exam as and when you are ready. The level achievement can't be satisfactory..
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    When I refer to "as and when you are ready" ... in this case it means the child is "out of the normal schooling pace" for learning and mastering Mandarin, for example, if a child whose Mandarin is average and make need to add an extra one or two years to brush up in terms of more reading or practice, they can afford to do so under HSK as it is not "time-based" . Of course, it is given that you are continuously learning Mandarin. The key point here is that HSK certifies your proficiency for the global market workplace and university entrance. It is not as an academic language subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by currymee View Post
    The key point here is that HSK certifies your proficiency for the global market workplace and university entrance. It is not as an academic language subject.
    You don't need to have an external Chinese language proficiency result to enrol into top Chinese university for undergraduate and post graduate program.

    This is stayed in Peking University International admission web page : " Undergraduates, Master and Doctoral candidates are not required to take the Chinese language proficiency exam. "

    http://www.isd.pku.edu.cn/index.php?...lists&catid=89

    I guess the logic is - Why waste time to assess Mandarin proficiency of students ? They won't survive if they can't master the language .... and who will apply to study in Peking University with all the necessary academic qualifications but without proficiency in Mandarin ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by opulant View Post
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    I guess the logic is - why waste time to assess mandarin proficiency of students ? They won't survive if they can't master the language .... And who will apply to study in peking university with all the necessary academic qualifications but without proficiency in mandarin ??
    Correct !!
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    The way I look at it is - HSK is a Mandarin proficiency qualification to assess and attract international students to go to China to add up the numbers for top Chinese university in order for them to be ranked among the top universities in the world. The mix of students (local and international) has a high bearing in the ranking scores.

    I doubt those who qualified with HSK 6 can survive the demand of Mandarin in specialised subjects like engineering or other science subjects due to the completely unique terminology in these subjects. Maybe they can study general subjects like management or business studies
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    However, I can forsee that in the global workplace/market (incl Malaysia) in the FUTURE (if not now), the de facto certification for Mandarin proficiency may be this ... the HSK.

    I can envisage a future employer looking to hire staff with Mandarin capabilities may specify for HSK requirements instead of any other like SPM, UEC or IGCSE for uniformity.
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    In any case, my objective in posting about HSK is TO RAISE AWARENESS among the forum members on this. I noticed that quite a number are still unaware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by currymee View Post
    However, I can forsee that in the global workplace/market (incl Malaysia) in the FUTURE (if not now), the de facto certification for Mandarin proficiency may be this ... the HSK.

    I can envisage a future employer looking to hire staff with Mandarin capabilities may specify for HSK requirements instead of any other like SPM, UEC or IGCSE for uniformity.
    For job application into Chinese MNC, I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opulant View Post
    For job application into Chinese MNC, I agree.
    Then, it is a matter of time looking at the rate, mainland Chinese MNCs are gobbling up Malaysian and other countries assets !!!
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