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    Rural equals poor?

    We hear a lot of discussions and when being poor is mentioned it is synonymous with being rural. Maybe it's true if it is some godforsaken end of the world place.

    IMO, the urban poor suffers the most in times like now, relatively speaking.

    Lets discuss.
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    Rural equals poor ??


    a) Yes.. if the classification of poor is based on gross income. Folks in rural areas have higher percentage in the low income group.

    b) No... if we look at the disposable net income. For example, monthly income of less than RM2000 can be a serious financial strain on individual in urban area but may not be so harsh for individual in rural areas where cost of living is lower.

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    Agree, that's why I ask in a relative sense.

    On living condition alone the rural poor is better whether it is in a new village or kampung. Their houses have a bit of a compound where they can plant some things and rear some chicken. The cost of living is also lower.

    The urban poor use to live in squatter colonies but most of it have to make way for development whether private of public. The residents are relocated to highrise public housing measuring a mere few hundred sq ft each unit. The units and population density is also very high. Such places are also hotbeds of social problems. On top of such crappy living conditions the urban poor have to pay urban cost of living. If the middle class is feeling the pinch now what more the the urban poor.
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    The rural areas comprise BN's vote bank. Understandably any Gomen initiative to alleviate the problems of the poor is biased towards the rural areas. In doing so I hope the urban poor is not neglected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry T View Post
    The rural areas comprise BN's vote bank. Understandably any Gomen initiative to alleviate the problems of the poor is biased towards the rural areas. In doing so I hope the urban poor is not neglected.
    Everyone likes the kampung style as life there is simple ,carefree and no pollution but everyone have to cari makan in the city. Indeed with a meagre salary like 2K - 3K it is difficult to survive but kampung is luxurious . If I am bachelor , I will sell all my properties in the city and stay in kampung and live like a king with of course have to have WIFI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jan tomaswaki View Post
    Everyone likes the kampung style as life there is simple ,carefree and no pollution but everyone have to cari makan in the city. Indeed with a meagre salary like 2K - 3K it is difficult to survive but kampung is luxurious . If I am bachelor , I will sell all my properties in the city and stay in kampung and live like a king with of course have to have WIFI.
    I have stayed in a kampung for 3 years but that was in 1976. From KL to a medieval age kampung, it was like turning the clock back 20-30 years from what modern facilities that I was used to in KL, which was not even a city then. Most rural folks were really poor and earned meager salaries.
    Bath in a river or a shared bathroom with one tap, Wooden house that was prone to annual flood at the end of the year. There were many who would take a morning bath in the nearby river, I couldn't find butter or burgers anywhere in town, Local entertainment was either the night food stalls or the cinema. I often visited friends who lived in their kampung homes without electricity or water supply and 7pm onwards was pitch dark and candle lights till 11pm you hit the sack. If they serve you plain water, you can damn well expect a murky looking glass of water. Its not exactly the same as kampung on the outskirts of a state capital town, they're more fortunate with essential facilities.
    I've experienced all that. NO!, it never made me sick or groan that that was kampung life in the 70's but surely a massive culture shock initially.

    Got a friend looking around and with the same idea of simplest life, "lower cost of living?", actually its lower cost of monthly expenditure because he's anticipating he and wife won't consume or buy as much as he did while residing and working in Subang. They were contemplating Bukit Tinggi, Pahang where its cool, fresher air and away from KL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry T View Post
    ....The urban poor use to live in squatter colonies but most of it have to make way for development whether private of public. The residents are relocated to highrise public housing measuring a mere few hundred sq ft each unit. The units and population density is also very high. Such places are also hotbeds of social problems. On top of such crappy living conditions the urban poor have to pay urban cost of living. If the middle class is feeling the pinch now what more the the urban poor.
    This is a common global phenomenon of urbanization, can find it in other cities in developed countries as well.

    Rural areas may seem as relax, carefree place for many urban folks but the pre-requisite is one must have savings to survive there without a job. No matter how low the livings cost, it is still money outflow and the money can only come from savings or income.

    In Malaysia, rural jobs are predominantly agricultural jobs in the plantation sector. The younger generation in rural areas who want to seek a different life will have to go to town. When their income can’t match the living costs in town, they are the new statistics of urban poor. Also, students from other states who came to Selangor/KL to further studies. Once they completed their studies, the salary at the early career is unikely enough to give them the kind of urban life that they envisage. They may have to continue to rent a room, a big churn of salary goes to installment of car, etc., they are also the urban poor.

    Generally speaking, I find life in Malaysia is not tough for those who were born in the 60s and 70s because this country underwent huge transformation in the 80s and 90s where abundant opportunities were offered at that time. Life started to get tough for the younger generation who were born after the mid 80s and getting tougher and tougher now.

    Again, this is also a global phenomenon. Tell me life in which country is not getting tougher in term of living costs and reduced purchasing power... ?? Adaptation to the changing conditions is the key to survive. For example, most urban parents have less kids in order to allocate the limited resources to one of two children. Younger working generation who possess skills/knowledge that are recognized elsewhere should explore life in other places.

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