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    Quote Originally Posted by pcyeoh View Post
    You are absolutely right. To be frank, this is not my heading. It is the headlines from The Star Metro. Read the details here.
    http://www.thestar.com.my/metro/comm...e-period-to-s/
    Thanks for the clarification.

    Since the topic and content of your 1st post are copied and pasted from a news link. I think it is part of this forum rules to provide quotation marks and the URL link, no ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcyeoh View Post
    ... For those whose contractor ran away and pocketted their submission money, this exercise can be considered as a second chance. For those who bought their houses which was renovated without approval by the previous owners, you can also halalise your property now.
    These are just lame excuses..

    Contractor ran away and pocketed the submission money ..
    - Renovation should not start before approval has been obtained.

    Bought a house which was renovated without approval by the previous owner..
    - For major renovation that required approval, it is not difficult to notice a house has been renovated. Buyer should asked for the approval drawing/letter issued by Council and this should be one of the conditions stated in the SPA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bslee View Post
    ..If going by earlier implication that everything or most are to be legalized, then the rule of building by laws are of no purpose and overridden to suit the situation or by whatever reasoning they have. If its to halal everything, then your implication is correct and the rule of law and enforcement is in serious question and not to be trusted..
    Ever wonder why people here pay serious attention to personal income tax especially the wage earners ..

    I have not seen any of my colleagues/staff/peers (past and present) who have no problem violating traffic rules ever late in submitting their income tax return to IRD, let alone defaulting their tax submission.

    The answer is obvious, it is the enforcement of the Laws and people know IRD means business when they deal with tax defaulters whether the default is accidental or intentional ....

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    MPSJ Briefing: A Chance to legalise illegal renovations - how to?

    Date: Saturday, 3rd September 2016.
    Venue: SS 15 Dewan Serbaguna (next to SS15 wet market and Asia Cafe)
    Time: 9.00am - 12 noon
    Organiser: Jawatankuasa Penduduk (JKP) Zon 1.

    The Pengarah of Bangunan, MPSJ, Ir Mohd Ariffuddin B. Hj. Kamari and other officials will be at hand to address the issues.

    Is your house renovation plan duly approved by MPSJ before you started with your renovation work? In fact, did you submit
    your renovation to MPSJ in the first place? If the answer is NO, then your house renovation is deemed illegal and MPSJ has the
    right to demolish your extension if you don't do anything to regularise it. It will also impact the selling price of your house or
    insurance claim.

    MPSJ is conducting this clinic or workshop on how you can regularise your illegal extension during this amnesty period
    ending 28th. February 2017.

    It is very important that you attend this forum as there are many pitfalls that you get to know at this forum to avoid
    falling victims to unscrupulous offers and promises.


    The Star news report on the this matter
    http://www.thestar.com.my/metro/comm...e-period-to-s/

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    This is the third and the final workshop that MPSJ is conducting. If you intend to legalise your renovation that was already done since day one and which was not approved or worst still did not even submit your renovation plan, then you better attend and find out what are the compliances. You may even ask any question or seek clarification.

    Previously, USJ which was in the Mukim of Damansara in the Petaling District was under the Majlis Daerah Petaling administration which eventually was upgraded to Subang Jaya Municipality Council or MPSJ in 1994. I read that during their move to the new office, many documents were lost, misplaced or just disappeared. They suffered double jeopardy when computerisation then was very minimum in the 90's. So this time round MPSJ offered some leeway in legalising the illegal and non submissions of renovations. I then heard the response has been bad as the way it is done is quite sinister. So some active residents took an active role to iron things out with MPSJ and got some concessions (see letter) but still the residents were dealt with armed gloves.

    If I read the letter sent out early August to every house, I suspect that MPSJ is going on a fishing trip. They could not identify those culprits unless they turun padang and check each and every house. So I was advised that when we want to seek any clarification with MPSJ, never disclose your address to them. The next thing you know is a surprise visit to your house by their enforcement officers. So the best platform to seek clarification from them is at this forum where you need not say who you are or where you stay.

    See you then.

    MPSJ letter on extension pg1.jpgMPSJ letter on extension pg2.jpg

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    Bumping up this thread as a reminder that the forum is at 9am Saturday. This is the opportunity to learn how you can get illegal structure legalise. Don't bitch or blame others should later down the road MPSJ come hard on you. There are many ways they will come to know about you. See you then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcyeoh View Post
    Bumping up this thread as a reminder that the forum is at 9am Saturday. ......
    I am confused. You posted at 10.36pm, Saturday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naka View Post
    I am confused. You posted at 10.36pm, Saturday.
    You are in London, where we are here is now Friday night and PC posted at 10:36pm Friday night

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwchang View Post
    You are in London, where we are here is now Friday night and PC posted at 10:36pm Friday night
    True, I am all mixed up, yes, it's Friday here in London and not Saturday and it's Saturday in Malaysia.

    But the time time difference is 11 hours which is incorrect.

    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naka View Post
    True, I am all mixed up, yes, it's Friday here in London and not Saturday and it's Saturday in Malaysia.

    But the time time difference is 11 hours which is incorrect.

    Why?
    Time to change your watch lah...

    The time difference between UK and Malaysia is 7 hours (from March to Oct) and 8 hours (from Oct to March). This is because UK is not on GMT all year. I remember around March, the time is adjusted 1 hour forward and then around Oct, it is adjusted back.

    I once nearly missed a transit flight from Edinburgh to London because I wasn't aware of the 1 hour adjustment and hence my watch was actually 1 hour behind time !! The airport PA was madly calling my name, when I embarked the plane, everyone were looking at me !!

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    May be the smart phone can take care of this daylight saving time.

    Anyway, the briefing was well attended and the Q & A session went well. A lot of issues were discussed and clarified. We even got the Pengarah to amend some of the requirements after having heard of our predicament which stretched over a period of 30+ years. Those who are championing this fight will further seek more leeway to get the process simplified and the cost down. As it is, it is costing the tax payers between RM1,500 to RM 2,500 for a straight forward reno to be legalised. But if you miss the deadline, the fine can be up to RM20,000 and the illegal reno if deemed unsafe will have to be demolished. The fine during the amnesty period is fixed at RM500 irrespective of the complexities.

    Sad to say that many are expecting others to fight the battle for them. and when the deadline approaches and before the wrecking ball comes a-swinging, these guys will scream for more time. I will update you when the group comes up with the final procedures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geofoliage View Post
    Time to change your watch lah...

    The time difference between UK and Malaysia is 7 hours (from March to Oct) and 8 hours (from Oct to March). This is because UK is not on GMT all year. I remember around March, the time is adjusted 1 hour forward and then around Oct, it is adjusted back.

    I once nearly missed a transit flight from Edinburgh to London because I wasn't aware of the 1 hour adjustment and hence my watch was actually 1 hour behind time !! The airport PA was madly calling my name, when I embarked the plane, everyone were looking at me !!
    I know the time difference of most countries.

    I am talking about the Time this Forum is using.

    Is it in Malaysia time or USA time because the times of all the postings do not show as they are.

    Aiya, is it really that confusing?

    I am posting this reply on Monday, the 4th Sept 2016, time 3.42pm, Iceland time.

    See what it comes up

    NB:- Just had a look, 11.42pm, Malaysia time which is correct because Iceland is 8 hr behind

    This time it is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcyeoh View Post
    May be the smart phone can take care of this daylight saving time...
    Well, the mobile phone I carried at that time was an Ericson analogue phone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naka View Post
    ...Aiya, is it really that confusing?

    I am posting this reply on Monday, the 4th Sept 2016, time 3.42pm, Iceland time.

    See what it comes up

    NB:- Just had a look, 11.42pm, Malaysia time which is correct because Iceland is 8 hr behind

    This time it is correct.
    Since nothing went wrong after you recheck the forum time shown in your screen while you are in london, I guess you may not need to change your watch... just change your spectacles !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geofoliage View Post
    Since nothing went wrong after you recheck the forum time shown in your screen while you are in london, I guess you may not need to change your watch... just change your spectacles !!
    Hehehe

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