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    Quote Originally Posted by kwchang View Post
    ...My limited info told me that RMIT runs assignment-based courses and has low emphasis on end-of year written exams. The work-assignment curriculum creates graduates who are well tuned and prepared to work, not book-worms who need to be interns to learn the job after graduation.

    Hence if you are an employer, which type of graduate would you go for?
    If you read more and is a bit hard-working to learn more, your info would be so limited.

    I have posted this link few times in this thread.....https://www.topuniversities.com/univ...niversity#wurs

    Apart from university ranking, QS also ranks the students employability. RMIT ranked 71-80 in graduate employability for the year 2017. Maybe you can compare the employability ranking of those universities where internships are required for their students in which you think they are "book-worm" vs the employability ranking of RMIT...

    Back to the question of employer preferred graduate....

    If I am a local entrepreneur in Malaysia/Singapore/Australia/etc, I will employ those graduate who are "doer", those who can do the job, less shine in exam and with lower employability (meaning they are not the hot assets in job market). Reason is I want to run a business, I am not running a think tank or a technology incubator. However, do you think those fortune 100 companies or those tech start-up are looking for these sort of graduates ??

    On the same question, do you you want your children to fit into the preferred category of my employee (assuming I am an entrepreneur) or you want them to be the sought-after candidates for internships in reputable organizations ??

    Ever wonder why top-paying employers - those in the management consulting, investment banking, tech firms and energy sector every year run internship program for undergraduates from prestigious uni ?? Is it because they like "book-worms" ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by opulant View Post
    I also know of many cases of Mckinsey where they don't even read your resume if your are from ordinary uni (including ordinary Aussie uni)...
    The kangaroo ordinary Uni I was referring to is UWA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naka View Post
    I know of one case in Goldman Sachs where 1 from Havard and another from an ordinary Oz Uni went for a interview for a VP Post.

    Guess who landed the VP Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Naka View Post
    The kangaroo ordinary uni I was referring to is UWA.
    It doesn't really matter which ordinary Uni you were referring to. The fact is you are not comparing in a fair basis.

    A VP position is not an entry level job, it is a senior position or a very senior position. To decide who is the right candidate for VP, the employer definately won't look at which uni of the applicant only, the past track record and career accomplishment of the applicant are very important, among other criteria.

    Using you example, you should compare them (a Harvard graduate and a Western Australia Uni graduate) when both of them are fresh graduate applying their 1st job with Goldman Sachs, and tell me who stand a better chance to be shortlisted for interview. Granted, some of the graduates from good uni may not meet the expectation of the employer during interview, and that is why interview is conducted for this purpose - to choose the right person. But before the employer can meet the candidate face-to-face to know more about the applicant during interview, a good degree from good uni is the assurance that your application will stand a chance if you are aiming for those top-notch employers that I mentioned in post#241.


    p/s : my youngest sister is also a VP in the banking industry and she became VP at relatively young age too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry T View Post
    .... In our forefathers' time the grass here is greener than back home with the revolutions, civil wars and the Japanese invasion. Mass migration of the Chinese to this region was in the 1930s. The mass migration of the Chinese to Malaya was facilitated by the British to work the tin mines, the revenues in turn were send back to Britain to fuel their economy.

    My first visit to the Great Wall of China was a solo effort. I was in PRC for work-related purpose and I utilized the weekend to explore the Great Wall. At that time, the train networks from Beijing to the outskirts were not fully developed yet.

    I wasn't on the "right track" and ended at a place which is still quite a distance from the Badaling (八达岭) section. There was a western-style, old steel-structure bridge at this place (I think the bridge was built for steam-powered train at that time). I saw a small notice board detailing the engineer who supervised the construction of this bridge. I remember this steel structure was built by a MIT-trained Chinese engineer.

    I did a search on the internet and yes, they were Chinese who went to MIT in the early 1900s when most of our forefathers at that time were freeing the country for greener pasture in South East Asia. I guess China was just too diversify in demographic even a century ago..

    http://chinacomestomit.org/#/first-graduates/

    http://chinacomestomit.org/#/bringing-tech-to-china/
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    Singapore President's Scholarship

    A President's Scholar is a recipient of the most prestigious class of university undergraduate scholarships awarded to Singaporean citizens annually by the government. I browse the news of some of the recipients, randomly.

    For example, in 2014... http://www.straitstimes.com/singapor...ts-scholarship

    " Mr Neo is the only recipient who will further his studies in Singapore. He will read Medicine at the National University of Singapore. The rest will be going to the United States. Mr Dean will read biological sciences at Harvard University, Mr Koh will read either political science or psychology at Johns Hopkins University, Miss Lee will read economics at the University of Pennsylvania, and Mr Lim will read global affairs at Yale University. "


    Another example, in 2016.... http://www.straitstimes.com/singapor...idents-scholar

    " Miss Natasha Ann Lum Mei Seem is the first PJC student to be awarded a President's Scholarship, hopes to pursue East Asian studies in the United States next year after Officer Cadet School (OCS). The other President's Scholars this year are: Miss Olivia Ong Si Hui will study psychology at the University of Oxford; Mr Timothy Ong Kah Yong will read law at the University of Cambridge; and Joshua Mr Sean Ong Zhi Han, who is bound for Tufts University in the US to study history. "


    Maybe one more example, 2017... http://www.straitstimes.com/singapor...ship-this-year

    " Mr Lee, who is going to study liberal arts at Yale University, said his parents are his greatest role models. Ms Wee, who had specialised in dance at Sota, will be heading to Oxford University in Britain to study psychology and philosophy. Ms Lim will also be going to Oxford University to study philosophy, politics and economics. Mr Hundal will be taking a double degree in social sciences and history at Sciences Po in France and the University of California, Berkeley in the US. "


    How come none of them go to universities in Australia like RMIT, UWA, etc ??
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    Read this piece of news this morning....

    He is the General Manager of one of the biggest construction companies listed in the main board of KLSE. He did not get a credit (kepujian) in Chinese subject during his SPM decades ago. He is attending evening classes in a Chinese independent school now, and determine to get at least a credit or better still an "A" in this year SPM examination...

    According to him, they are others from different walks of life including retirees are attending such classes. Some were educated in Chinese school before, some were not but they are eager to learn their ancestral language while they still can..



    I think Malaysia is the only place outside PRC and Taiwan where one can learn Chinese language with qualified teaching resources and facilities everywhere. I don't think Singapore can match the resources here, in both facilities and teaching staff. Chinese people in other countries including a big island in southern hemisphere will likely remain as ocbc forever and this will continue to the next generations......
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    dey said one needs to know at least 3000 characters to read the newspapers (not Star lah)..and 6000 characters to deliver convincing sales pitch or sure-win PowerPoint presentation...

    I am sooooo starting with the mahjong characters....*Phong* and *UmmKong* not withstanding. ... Still looking for 3kakis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opulant View Post
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    Seven students from Pin Wah Chinese High School (Klang) are offered to pursue undergraduate degree in Tsinghua University. Two of them are given full scholarship by the university.

    Tsinghua is the best university in PRC with global ranking of 24 in 2017. Maybe some may think global ranking of 24 does not sound impressive. In the same year, Melbourne University was ranked 41, New South Wales University (45), Sydney University (50), Monash University (60), Western Australia University (93), etc.
    Maybe some people don't like the QS University Ranking especially when the ranking for universities in kangaroo land is low.

    Ok... here is a comparison, the latest ranking from Times University Ranking (just released yesterday)...
    https://www.timeshighereducation.com...asc/cols/stats

    No need to compare with the top ones from UK and US, just compare universities from kangaroo land with other good universities in Asia..

    Peking University (PRC) - 27
    Tsinghua University (PRC) - 30
    National University Singapore - 22
    Nanyang Technology University, Singapore - 52

    Melbourne University - 32
    Sydney university - 61
    Monash university - 80
    New South Wales Uni - 85
    Western Australia Uni - 111

    Quote Originally Posted by opulant View Post
    RMIT ?? What is that ????

    OMG, it ranked 252.

    https://www.topuniversities.com/univ...-rankings/2016
    According to Times this year, RMIT ranks 401
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    Quote Originally Posted by tupai View Post
    dey said one needs to know at least 3000 characters to read the newspapers...
    There are approximately 40,000 to 50,000 common Chinese characters (excluding the characters in ancient classical Chinese). These are the traditional Chinese characters. I know about one quarter of them.

    The communist party after they ruled PRC, they reinvented the wheel by introducing the simplified Chinese characters. I also learned them. So, I roughly know 20,000 of Chinese characters in total...

    Traditional Chinese characters are much more beautiful, artistically. One can immediately visualise the meaning of the word from the combination of the characters.

    With the economic might of PRC, the whole world (except Taiwan) are using the simplified characters now as standard chinese characters . That's why I always buy books printed for Taiwan market even though the author is a PRC national...
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    Maybe not the best university ranking but he was paid $44k as an intern for 1 year. And he has been offered to start with the company at 55k per year with a secure letter of offer. Not everyone is rich, I am just sharing with people who is looking at cheaper options. I am happy.

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    Those of you over 50, please do a colonscopy to check Bowel for cancer and remove polyps. Every 2 years once. I doing mine in Oz, cost MYR 300 at a private Centre. Think go GH if you are doing in KL. Also check BP and take bp medication to manage it. As for frequent urination problem, check your prostrate PSA levels. If high, see a urinolgist to check for prostrate cancer. Most often, enlarged prostrate does not mean cancer but always better to check if it is benign. Dr can insert a finger and feel the size and let you know. Good luck.

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    Started to have colonoscopy and PSA test around the age of 40..

    My gastroenterologist told me - if colonoscopy results show low risk, no need to do every 2 years even above 50 years old. Just make sure it is done at least every 5 years.

    PSA is one of the standard parameters for my yearly urologist visit. For this yearly visit, there will be a full ultrasound scan for lower abdomen – liver, gallbladder, pancreas, kidneys, urinary bladders and prostate. All these are done from a nearby hospital in SJ, no need to travel so far lah !!



    PSA result in 2009..


    Latest two years...





    I think I have the " good luck "...
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    According to a detailed Australia salary survey in 2014..
    http://www.graduatecareers.com.au/wp...2014_FINAL.PDF

    " The median starting salary for bachelor degree graduates aged less than 25 and in their first full-time employment was AUD52,500 (essentially unchanged from AUD52,450 in 2013, and AUD52,000 in 2012).

    The median starting salary for male and female graduates was AUD55,000 and AUD52,000 respectively (males remained unchanged from their 2013 figure whereas females increased by 900 ).

    Dentistry remained the highest-paid field of education at AUD75,000, followed by:
    optometry (70,000)
    engineering (62,000)
    earth sciences (60,000)
    mathematics (60,000)
    medicine (60,000) "


    I also browsed a salary survey of accounting graduate. http://www.payscale.com/research/AU/...1c/Entry-Level
    The medium salary for accounting graduate is AUD51,313 and the highest salary is AUD70,193.

    Well, I guess people have different expectation due to different talent, qualification and exposure. The average ones are contented and happy with average salary ... those who are talented and well-qualified will seek opportunities with high rewards...


    p/s : Salary should gradually increase every year and hence the 2017 medium salary should be more than 2014, unless there is recession or major financial crisis.
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    In a Hong Kong Chinese newspaper on 22/9/2017, it says Malaysia Ringgit is down 30%, investors are advised to invest in Malaysia properties.

    Invest in Boleh

    Buy! Buy! Buy! Cheap! Cheap! Cheap!

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    The second bullet point of the advertisement means :
    - low density, facing north and south, 3 to 8 units in each floor, 1050-2000 sqft spacious and luxurious unit

    Sometimes, I pity those who live and work in HK. To them, anything above 1000 sqft is spacious and 2000 sqft condo is a luxurious mansion !!

    Of course, property here is cheap to them. With less than RM2million, you can get a 2000 sqft unit in SJ/PJ, around RM2.5 million in Bangsar and downtown KL.

    It costs at least RM15 million (HKD30 million) for similar property in HK !!


    p/s : My friend's son is working in HK, in an industry that full of finance vultures. I once asked him how's life there ?? He said all shits except the salary !! He said for his kind of work, he has to be in HK, not Shanghai, not Singapore because no place in Far East has the advantages of HK - proximity to PRC, western legal framework and free capital market.
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