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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenwich View Post
    Nothing new from this article. The writer avoids the main issue of the social re-engineering policy...

    The so-called "social re-engineering" policy to address social inequality in this country has been hijacked for political agenda by the ruling gomen for decades. I think this is what everyone knows.

    Unfortunately, even in state that run by the previous opposition party like Penang, social re-engineering policy is also used to strengthen political support and to enhance popularity. It has nothing to do with eradicating social inequality..

    A good example (only few days ago), http://www.thesundaily.my/news/1409087

    Quoted : " Bumiputra contractors were awarded RM7.81 billion worth of jobs, which is equal to 94% of the contracts given out by the Pakatan Rakyat Penang government since it came into power in 2008, chief minister Lim Guan Eng said "

    - Tell me only 6% of non-bumi contractors in Penang are qualified to be awarded contract..

    - Tell me only 6% of non-bumi contractors in Penang are interested to get state gomen contract..

    - and tell me also, the population of non-bumi in Penang is 6% !!


    I think you should not simply write on subjects you do not understand nor have a firm grasp on..... it makes you look clever but its dangerous to misinform...

    Read first what is social engineering here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_...tical_science)



    Let me share a proverb with you: "Its better to keep the big mouth shut and be thought stupid than to open it and remove all doubts..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel View Post

    I think you should not simply write on subjects you do not understand nor have a firm grasp on..... it makes you look clever but its dangerous to misinform...

    Read first what is social engineering here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_...tical_science)

    Let me share a proverb with you: "Its better to keep the big mouth shut and be thought stupid than to open it and remove all doubts..."
    You have problem reading my post, then it is your problem.

    You can ignore my post. I think others may have less problem than you reading my posts.

    There is no need to share any proverb with me. Keep it to yourself before I share mine with you..

    Btw, your proverb " Its better to keep the big mouth shut and be thought stupid than to open it and remove all doubts " fit perfectly of what you know about diesel trade...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel View Post
    ...I just received a quotation for PETRONAS Diesel Euro 2-M at RM597 per MT plus 6% GST.... so at 100,000MT the total shipment will be RM59,700,000 FOB ex Tanjung Bin. GST at 6% = RM3,582,000 for product to be shipped to Tanjung Priok, Indonesia?
    ....

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    Its because I know there is no GST for diesel export that I posted this, can't you understand simple English? Or what the sign "?" stands for? Waste my time trying to explain simple English to people like you....

    Anyway, the point of my posting was to tell you not to simply bluff every now and then, just stick to facts....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel View Post
    Waste my time trying to explain simple English to people like you....
    You are the one started replying my posts, so don't yell to the world of wasting your time... !!

    Please read post #381 of this thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenwich View Post
    ....Talking about gasoil (diesel as we commonly know), I was told by my collegues that gasoil price is around USD550 per metric ton in Malaysia. They normally quote the market price minus USD10-15 as per Singapore MOPS.

    Yesterday (Monday, 27 April 2015 Singapore time), Platts price for gasoil (Euro2) is USD565. The traders and refinery in Singapore will add USD10-15 for premium.

    p/s : MOPS is mean of Platts
    Maybe you are special... as you can get Petronas to quote you RM597/MT.. !!


    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel View Post
    ...anyway, the point of my posting was to tell you not to simply bluff every now and then....
    Who is bluffing now !!

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    I didn't say I got a quotation from PETRONAS.... I said I have received a quote for PETRONAS diesel... read again.....

    And I quote this particular case because of two things: imposing GST when it shouldn't and the high price....

    So you got all the facts wrong and yet you want to continue to argue and look smart....

    I got the deal signed off the next day at USD520 so who look stupid now?

    No wonder always end up quarrelling with forumers here, does not comprehend the language well....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel View Post

    I didn't say I got a quotation from PETRONAS.... I said I have received a quote for PETRONAS diesel... read again.....

    And I quote this particular case because of two things: imposing GST when it shouldn't and the high price....

    So you got all the facts wrong and yet you want to continue to argue and look smart....

    I got the deal signed off the next day at USD520 so who look stupid now?

    No wonder always end up quarrelling with forumers here, does not comprehend the language well....
    Oh yes, please continue to reply in exactly this manner..

    I am happy I don't even need to elaborate further on this subject, your reply said it all ...

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    I am actually quite tired with these tirades
    But some of our readers want to see some 'interesting' posts and for this time I shall tolerate this 'usual' confrontation between Sentinel and Greenwich simply on the grounds of entertainment
    It is OK if some of you (with the relevant business knowledge) wish to clarify on the prices and rates mentioned for our education. Education is always a good thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naka View Post
    I feel very sad Malaysia economy is in bad shape due to global low crude prices which is beyond her control.
    But it is made worst by half-past six economist who can’t differentiate between RM & USD.
    It is interesting to see people who talk loud and big with pea-size brain.


    Ya, me too. Like you I also cannot understand some of these half past six economists persistently and constantly wanting to tell the world how BIG a deal their job entails. Perhaps, like you mentioned they are trying to make up for the brain size (or the missing bit?). I do think one need to understand the type of readers they are targeting or those around, no point always shooting for the moon.

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    For me some things are best kept simple and humble.
    Maybe for one thing, its very possible people simply forget this is an OPEN forum, and thats what forums are for. I reckon, most here are already familiar with each other's style, language and what's already expressed in the past, present and the future. No-one is always agreeable to each other's points, facts or bluffs. Most of all everyone is entitled to write what they want as long as it doesn't break forum rules which include personal insult and being condescending to hurt another in one way or other. Everyone got their own ego here, that's no doubt. No need to loose sleep when someone impress by their own ego which may be perceived as pernicious or condescending. Just like everyone have their own definition of fun...so was that Mara scholar who thought what he did was fun, the aftermath is not everyone agree to giving a 2nd chance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bslee View Post

    As Mr Chang mentioned, someone with business knowledge in this field should share.

    Greenwich has correctly pointed the diesel price should be around USD 550 as per Singapore MOPS .

    The distorted problem is someone was caught pant down and wanted to twist and turn


    The only person twisting and turning is you. You got involved and barged into the argument by calling me pea-brained and half-past-six... for someone who cannot even name apple strudel properly and called it apple studio... you obviously do not even have a good command of the language.

    I mistyped RM in place of USD and you labelled that as twist and turn. The real twist and turn is lying about what social re-engineering is and when I pointed that out, someone threw a spanner and brought up my error in using RM instead of USD.

    Then you got involved to bang me to vent your frustration and anger which has been inside you for years.... from the time you tried several times to get me banana'ed and banned until now...

    It is obvious that you referred to my error as an economic disaster even comparing it to an economic situation.... it shows Naka... it shows... and do not even try to hide it....

    And trying to show how Aussie you are by trying to say "mate" means intimate friend? Sorry lah.... you are not the only one who has been or lived in Australia....

    I have traded diesel for years and I have not even mentioned it until recently... do not even try to think I am that pea-brained as you to trade for years with such stupidity.... I would have been a pauper... come and debate me direct if I am stupid... just start a thread on any topic... but no apple studio please, I don't know what that is you had for breakfast....

    I got caught twisting and turning? Read it again....


    I just received a quotation for PETRONAS Diesel Euro 2-M at RM597 per MT plus 6% GST.... so at 100,000MT the total shipment will be RM59,700,000 FOB ex Tanjung Bin. GST at 6% = RM3,582,000 for product to be shipped to Tanjung Priok, Indonesia? Is this correct? Is GST claimable back?

    In 12 monthly shipments, GST will come to RM42,984,00! wow!

    Any GST experts here can offer comments?

    From what little I know about GST, exports are exempted.... and I did a double-check with a freight forwarder friend, an accountant in PJ and a CFO in a MNC trading company.... somebody trying to do a quick one to my Indonesian partner hahaha....
    And don't pretend the "social engineering" subject has been forgotten, explain....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel View Post
    And don't pretend the "social engineering" subject has been forgotten, explain....
    I seriously confuse about social engineering now and why would the example given by Greenwich is not under "social engineering" topic...
    Do take some time to explain in simple English...
    no pun intended...

    NEP was a social re-engineering...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysi...conomic_Policy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naka View Post
    laugh: Dinner time.
    Have a good dinner, mate..

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    Quote Originally Posted by aursong View Post
    I seriously confuse about social engineering now and why would the example given by Greenwich is not under "social engineering" topic...
    Do take some time to explain in simple English...
    no pun intended...

    NEP was a social re-engineering...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysi...conomic_Policy
    Hi Aursong, expected to come into the discussion at this stage....

    I will reply as soon as the guests in the house have left after dinner.... or tomorrow morning....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel View Post
    Yes Sir! Whatever you say sir.... and since you come from the backwaters of east coast Sabah and residing for sometimes in Perth, could you care to explain what "mate" means in everyday Aussie conversation?

    I used the term "mate" not to indicate you are my friend - never..... don't even hope for it.... I use it like what every Aussie uses everyday - as a colloquial everyday expression... from your earlier postings where you spent nights to try to get me banned from this forum years ago, you have never been a friend. Even those who had white coffee and roti bakar with you for breakfast also told me that you also badmouthed me even outside this forum - and frankly, we have never even met...

    Yes, you too keep your distance...


    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel View Post

    The only person twisting and turning is you. You got involved and barged into the argument by calling me pea-brained and half-past-six... for someone who cannot even name apple strudel properly and called it apple studio... you obviously do not even have a good command of the language.

    I mistyped RM in place of USD and you labelled that as twist and turn. The real twist and turn is lying about what social re-engineering is and when I pointed that out, someone threw a spanner and brought up my error in using RM instead of USD.

    Then you got involved to bang me to vent your frustration and anger which has been inside you for years.... from the time you tried several times to get me banana'ed and banned until now...

    It is obvious that you referred to my error as an economic disaster even comparing it to an economic situation.... it shows Naka... it shows... and do not even try to hide it....

    And trying to show how Aussie you are by trying to say "mate" means intimate friend? Sorry lah.... you are not the only one who has been or lived in Australia....

    I have traded diesel for years and I have not even mentioned it until recently... do not even try to think I am that pea-brained as you to trade for years with such stupidity.... I would have been a pauper... come and debate me direct if I am stupid... just start a thread on any topic... but no apple studio please, I don't know what that is you had for breakfast....

    I got caught twisting and turning? Read it again....




    And don't pretend the "social engineering" subject has been forgotten, explain....
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    Your remarks are so childish/foolish and you can't talk like a man.

    It's a waste of time to response.

    Yes, I am applying a visa to the banana plantation as I do not have a single banana tree in my backyard.

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    APPLE STUDIO:-

    Today, I want to comment on this 'Apple Studio' spelling which I have never touched on despite the fact you took the opportunity to ridicule me on 3 or 4 other occasions over a span of a few years.

    Yes, a long time ago,I did make a simple typo error on the spelling of Apple Studio instead of Apple Strudel and you jumped on it & continue to ridicule me on the first available opportunity.

    I thought I had adequately dealt with this issue of Apple Studio spelling but obviously you have an itchy hand and cast the first stone again to try & irritate me on the 21-4-2015 #25

    http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/uploa...Cat-trap/page2

    6 months ago, on the 29/10/2014, I had posted this Pedantic Blues in this link.

    http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/uploa...-o-t-s/page147

    #2191


    Just for you, to make it easier, here is a screen shot.





    Pedantic is a more difficult word than 'mate'. Here is the meaning, just for you



    Happy now

    P/S.......BTW, there is no GST/VAT in this Apple Studio...that's what this thread is all about.

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