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    Lightbulb Best Air-Con ????

    Hi guys... I am thinking of getting a new air-con, probably panasonic, with O2 or S2 puritee models.... Anyone had installed these air-con models already?? Or any other brands/model of air-con to recommend???

    Thanks in advance....

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    Try Nasional air-cond...I use it for 5 years adi..except that the spoiler is spoilt now..I get it repaired for RM50. Also..if you wanna try, try YORK brand. I think its kinda a good air-cond

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    I heard that Panasonic air-con now got 2 batches, one is Malaysia made, another is China made... China made goods are generally inferior in term of QA...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icehart
    Try Nasional air-cond...I use it for 5 years adi..except that the spoiler is spoilt now..I get it repaired for RM50. Also..if you wanna try, try YORK brand. I think its kinda a good air-cond
    National changes name to Panasonic now .Their air cons are manufactured in our own backyard ..Mashu****a . I would say Panasonic is one among the best . Quiet ,reliable and good rustfree compressor even after 14 yrs at 8hrs continous running every working day . York compressor becomes noisy after a few years . Acson compressor fan failed after abt 2yrs from our 4 unit installation. Sanyo compressor rusted badly .Carrier seems to be as good as National/Panasonic in all respect. All these info from my office installation of over 15yrs.

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    National USED to be good and I am one satisfied customer. However, recently, I have heard that it isn't so good as before. Anyone can verify?

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    National shd still be one of the best aircond brands, even if there are some faulty units sometimes, it will be very rare. Their products available locally are mostly made in Malaysia & Thailand. Sometimes u will get the outdoor unit(compressor) made in Thailand and indoor units from Malaysia. But the quality level is high. All the aircond technicians out there will vouch for National(Panasonic) just like car mechanics vouch on Toyotas.

    I've had 3 units National a/c for 4 yrs now but 1 of them has become noisy after 2 yr+ and I changed the indoor motor bearings few months back for a king's ransom but the bearing noise came back again after a month. Will see what happens next before I call for service.

    I made a mistake of not calling National directly which i know will provide good and efficient service with warranty. I was pretty much held on the chopping board by that unscrupulous dealer. And to think that I've bought a water filter from him for RM300+ earlier, and a toilet float for RM90 when Ace sold same item for RM45! I think we shd hv a complaints forum for members to voice their issues with aircon/appliances repairer, plumbers, electricians, contractors, etc. I've had so much problems with home appliances lately! Anyway, sorry I sidetracked!

    Acson and York are made under the same roof in OYL. Quality is so so, sometimes good, sometimes bad. They specialise in commercial aircond though. For home split units, they made so much changes over the years we can't generalise which batch/model is the best. To give u some indication, they source their fan motors from China, and compressors from Matsushi.ta Malaysia, I'm not very sure if they may hv experimented or introduced new models with China compressors since they hv a few big plants in China and sourced heavily from there.
    Last edited by PJS; 09-05-2005 at 12:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJS
    National shd still be one of the best aircond brands,

    I've had 3 units National a/c for 4 yrs now but 1 of them has become noisy after 2 yr+ and I changed the indoor motor bearings few months back for a king's ransom but the bearing noise came back again after a month. Will see what happens next before I call for service.

    I made a mistake of not calling National directly which i know will provide good and efficient service with warranty. I was pretty much held on the chopping board by that unscrupulous dealer. And to think that I've bought a water filter from him for RM300+ earlier, and a toilet float for RM90 when Ace sold same item for RM45! I think we shd hv a complaints forum for members to voice their issues with aircon/appliances repairer, plumbers, electricians, contractors, etc. I've had so much problems with home appliances lately! Anyway, sorry I sidetracked!

    Acson and York are made under the same roof in OYL.
    Yes Panasonic have their field service team like what Sony provide. They have a standised rate and comes with warranty as well.
    If you are a DIY handyman , changing of these bearings in the blower unit can be quite easy . I buy those bearings at those car spareparts shop at about rm7, yank the old one out and yank in the new one .
    Sometimes the noise is not from the bearings . It may be from dirt sticking onto your blower unit and cause an imbalance fan . It is similar to what you see on the ceiling fan.

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    Talking O2 or Puritee models

    Quote Originally Posted by pokemon
    Hi guys... I am thinking of getting a new air-con, probably panasonic, with O2 or S2 puritee models.... Anyone had installed these air-con models already?? Or any other brands/model of air-con to recommend???

    Thanks in advance....
    Though there are some truth to what it claims, O2 and Puritee in my opinion are more marketing gimmicks than actual benefits . What O2 model does is, it draws outside air thru' a pipe to supply so called O2. As for Puritee, if I'm not wrong is using potential plates with postive and negative charges to attract dust and at the same time to ionise the air molecules which will attract and settle down dust on the floor . The disadvantage is, after sometime, the potential plates will be covered by thick dust and losing its effectiveness and obtructing the air flow, hence required servicing . Whereas basic type is without those features thus more cheaper.
    For me, I usually go for basic Panasonic as I do not believe in gimmicks and to save $ .
    Hope this will help.

    gtmil

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    U guys must not have tested many other brands of air con.

    I do a lot of testing with variuos ones.
    Here's the list of top 5, starting with the BEST one first.

    1. Mitsubishi Electric mr Slim <--By far the coldest, it's compressor is MADE IN JAPAN & assemble in Thailand.
    2. Sharp Plasmacluster Series, it really kill germs.
    3. Hitachi, also compressor made in japan.
    4. National Purity
    5. Carrier.

    YORK, i , ACSON is the worst one besides those selling with no brand in Makro!!

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    Hitachi...

    My (air) "con"tribution ....

    Using a Hitachi unit.... about 2 + years now... Its a one hp unit - but bluddy hell it has a 10,800 btu cooling power... compared to the average 9,000 btu for the average 1 hp units. Have checked the electricity range and there is no aditional spike in the current consumption... so I guess the extra cooling coils/fins help.

    Oso... every once in a while, I take my water jet-spray and blast all the dust off the outside unit and you have to see for yourself the amount of gunk and soot the external fan sucks thru the compressor unit outside! It somehow helps keep the heat exchange effecient and thus cooling the room down faster...


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    Agree with Alex - we changed to Hitachi when we shifted 1.5 years ago. The units' power rating was the deciding factor. Our electricity bills are much less than our old place, can't say if it is due to the Hitachi but we certainly use more air-conditioning in our new place. It even has a silent feature. If you were to go for external features, you will find that the Hitachi is constructed much better and looks more robust than Panasonic.

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    heard good rating abt hitachi's air con from my friends too. i have no complain abt panasonic's air con too. as for Acson, pls avoid, it is very noisy, used them once, cheaper than jap's brand but only good for 1 - 2 years MAX.

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    I have a 15 yr old Sanyo 1bhp split unit installed in my bedroom in parent's home, still working after 15 yrs and very very cold without a single problem even though it is seldom used nowadays. I also had 2 Sanyo's in a previous home without ANY problems for the first 3-4 yrs until i sold the house. And still having a 8yr old GE, made in China, which has moved house 3 times with me and still functions without a glitch, though a bit louder than National but it's very very cold. These old units were expensive but they don't cut corners in manufacturing to sell at cheap-cheap prices like the new ones today. My newest a/c are 4yr old National 1 & 1.5hp units, also bought at the expensive era @ Rm1.5-2.2K but these are not as cold as the older Sanyo & GE units.

    I have insider knowledge about Acson & York, that's why I never buy or used them myself, so I can't give any bad comments on a personal capacity. hahahaa Wonder how OYL manage to keep their stock prices so high all these years!

    Have a friend who used to work in Hitachi aircond Bangi, afaik, their quality is quite good too. Can't remember if he said they get their compressors from Thailand too, or Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexius Lim
    My (air) "con"tribution ....

    Oso... every once in a while, I take my water jet-spray and blast all the dust off the outside unit and you have to see for yourself the amount of gunk and soot the external fan sucks thru the compressor unit outside! It somehow helps keep the heat exchange effecient and thus cooling the room down faster...
    You have to be careful using jet spray on the coils as the aluminium fins are very soft, if sprayed at the wrong angle, the extreme pressure from jet spray might push the fins shut together and u'd have impeded airflow thru the fins. Also, don't aim the spray directly at the motor or the high pressure water could wash out the bearing grease and cause accelerated wear. I'm sure you're also aware to not shoot at the electrical connections for obvious reasons.

    Other than the 2 cautions, keeping the coil clean will give u maximum heat exchanger efficiency.

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    But never get a Haier unit... very noisy and in just half a year, my a/c starting to KO already....

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