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    Residents Association Being Sued

    YB Hannah Yeoh & YB Wong Chen - at USJ2 RA EGM, whereby 5 principal office bearers were being sued by residents who opposed the guarded community scheme.

    Video of YB Hannah Yeoh:

    Part 1: http://youtu.be/lJ1InyovD0U


    Part 2: http://youtu.be/CibkFXFCkXk


    Part 3: http://youtu.be/cgRc03WAwus

    Video of YB Wong Chen:

    http://youtu.be/NKFCE7P5kNI

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    Small community also "lu saman gua, gua saman lu".... these must really be good neighbors who spend enough time knowing each other, done lotsa things together, have lotsa teh tarek sessions together and perhaps even gone trekking and durian party at the dusun.... if not why they saman each other? And I am sure they will look after each other well and each other's welfare as well...

    Now the ADUN and MP have been roped in as things will be settled in the Shah Alam court... everybody will benefit and they can continue to be lotsa get-together and friendly smiles all around... this will be a happy community...

    I wish I can buy a unit in USJ2 and move there and be part of this selfless happy community....

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    it is not that those who are involved (in JKP, KRT etc) didnt know about the possibility of being sued...It had been said, mentioned, warned oft to the people involved (esp org and comm members/volunteers).

    The issue of public security lies with your 1Federal govt. The broken record of 'insufficient resources' (arms & legs to ronda vehicles) is the usual excuse. The mushrooming of gng merely addresses the symptoms and actually accentuated the problem with polis ronda now not factoring in your area in their daily routing...and there in lies my 'objection' to unplanned gng.

    Unplanned gng not only reduces the already limited pdrm ronda/presence, but causes inconvenience to the general public. Unplanned closure of service/township roads can cause confusion and delay in ETA esp for those not familiar with the area. Think of ambulances and emergency resources...

    I can write chapters & verses on pros&cons of the unplanned gng but I'd rather hear from the forummers....Yes, i can moot and even close up a few roads & section (MY section only , as usuallly I dont give a flying banana with the other areas) of my ss17 but I refrain from addressing symptoms.

    The answer lies in the Parliament with consistent & omnipresence pressure from ALL the MPs.

    I bet the volunteers (not the adun or mp) now are wetting their pants...

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    With such controversies, it is better to buy a property in a gated community already emplaced by the developer, like in Sunway and in Puchong. To even set up a simple ronda initiative, there will be opposition. Not many are thinking about the common good but for their own selfish reasons. But in gated communities, there are residents who also refuse to pay for the collective security services.
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    Staying in gated community also no point lar, depending on the guards sometimes, bor chap, being lowly paid and no insurance coverage.

    It is those rich fellas and hv interests that speak the loudest, while the concerned are those involve in RT n RA doing the job for everyone for free gets wallup left n right.

    Better to know your left n right, front n back neighbours, to make it safer. Rather than helping the rest of bochap neighbours. The scope is just too big to swallow.


    From what i know one of the guy who sued is a specialist doctor, who hv means to sue the RA until fulat...

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    HAHAHAHAH...there are gated and there are gated. There are expensive well commensurated trained & armed gukha guards and there are elcheapo foreign xfarmer-xfisherman-torchlited&baton'd guards....

    You seriously think all 100 resident in makeshift gng want to happily pay the low monthly fee? I have stories to make Shylock cry buckets!

    ANyway, Years ago, to do anything (even gate up the back service lane btw houses) would need a minimum 80% 'Setuju' amongst the affected residents...today, it is 75%. Like it help?

    That is why Frankie is so right...know thy neighbors left right front back. they are your eyes & ears like you to 'em...PLUS they can be the first to lend a hand in any emergency...


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    I think it is a difficult situation for residents. GnG in landed property is illegal (with the exception of landed property which has been designed, built and approved as GnG property). Sometimes, goodwill is not good enough, it is sad and frustrating but it is a fact.

    Talking about legal actions. Here is a kisah benar happened in a high-rise property.

    The 1st JMC was formed after developer handled over the keys and vacant possession all done. In the 1st few months, life was good and spirit was high. Things went wrong when the chairman had problem with one of the jmc members and subsequently this member resigned. The chairman did a terrible mistake when he get personal with this member. He asked security guard to clamp the car belong to this member who has a habit to park his car at the visitor car park (which is less than 1 minute walk to the main lobby). He also instructed the management office to block the access card of this member.

    Well, this resident had no qualm of his car being clamped and access card being blocked. He drove another car (in fact different cars) to enter this premise and he registered as visitor each and every time he came. He engaged a lawyer (he came from a family full of lawyers !!!) and sued the entire JMC. Half way the legal proceeding, a good friend of him (a resident also) knew he will win and spoke to him in private and asked his “favor” to drop the charges because it was not the entire JMC fault and no matter of what outcome, the loser is the resident association. He agreed with conditions and the conditions will only be revealed after he win the case.

    He won and the legal compensation was 100k+… !!

    To save the 100k, here are the conditions:

    1. A letter of apology written by the JMC chairman, signed by all the JMC members. The apology letter must also include the full name, IC number and unit number of all the JMC members.

    2. This letter must be displayed on the notice boards for a period of 12 months. There are 4 notice boards inside this property.

    3. In the next AGM, the chairman must read the content of the apology letter load and clear in a remorseful manner in front of the residents.

    Well, between 100k and some paper works, it is obvious which option they chose..



    p/s: After this incident, the new JMC (it is MC now) has done the followings:
    - Pass resolution in AGM to indemnify them from individual's legal action..
    - Pass resolution in AGM to allow them to use the resident’s fund for legal defense in matters related to the management committee.
    - Buy insurance to cover the legal compensation.

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    Any update?

    If the residents win it will set a precedent for others in the same situation to sue.
    " In the land of the blind the one-eyed-jack is king."

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    Quote Originally Posted by fRaNkY View Post
    Staying in gated community also no point lar, depending on the guards sometimes, bor chap, being lowly paid and no insurance coverage.
    I agree with franky.

    From my experience, the guards in condos are really just 'gate openers' rather than security guards.
    They have trouble communicating so how can they be effective guards because most of them are foreigners. And they are lowly paid to work long hours.

    A small percentage are good but most of them are just gate openers as there are just too many condos around and not enough good staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ng View Post
    ... A small percentage are good but most of them are just gate openers as there are just too many condos around and not enough good staff.
    This is a natural process and the key in everything….

    If everything is equally good, everything is equally affordable, every place is equally safe, everyone is equally smart, then this planet earth is going kaboom !!

    Why study/work/adventure harder, why take risks to be better if majority will eventually end up the same and have the same life !!

    30-40 years ago, a university degree is a guarantee of a better life. No more now as it is commonly achievable and available by majority.

    About the same time ago, full-time maid/domestic helper is rare and only for the very wealthy folks but look at the abundance of maid now and the quality !!

    Good thing is not for majority... Period

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercure View Post
    This is a natural process and the key in everything….

    If everything is equally good, everything is equally affordable, every place is equally safe, everyone is equally smart, then this planet earth is going kaboom !!

    Why study/work/adventure harder, why take risks to be better if majority will eventually end up the same and have the same life !!

    30-40 years ago, a university degree is a guarantee of a better life. No more now as it is commonly achievable and available by majority.

    About the same time ago, full-time maid/domestic helper is rare and only for the very wealthy folks but look at the abundance of maid now and the quality !!

    Good thing is not for majority... Period
    Yaloh, there is a reason why not everyone is born equal in intelligence and capability. This world needs all sorts of people. Otherwise who is going to pump your overflowing septic tank, clear your rubbish and clean the drains?
    " In the land of the blind the one-eyed-jack is king."

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    Aiyoh... these 26 rascals have nothing better to do ah? Why can't they talk to the RA on amicable solution rather than bringing this to the court? Obviously they are not working as a team in the community, they should be expel if there is a law to expel residents
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    Quote Originally Posted by birdy View Post
    Aiyoh... these 26 rascals have nothing better to do ah? Why can't they talk to the RA on amicable solution rather than bringing this to the court? Obviously they are not working as a team in the community, they should be expel if there is a law to expel residents
    This is democracy at work which is basically tyranny of the majority. Each country has its laws. So if there is no law here that says such G&G is legal the 26 have every right to sue.

    If it can be settled this case wouldn't have gone to the Courts. It is pretty obvious the few hundred others in the area who agree to the scheme are not going to give in to the 26 who objected. They are expected to keep quiet and just accept it, yes?

    On a larger scale this is the same method use to run the country. Majority rules. The minority just accept it and keep quiet. Better still, roll over and die.
    " In the land of the blind the one-eyed-jack is king."

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    Quote Originally Posted by birdy View Post
    Aiyoh... these 26 rascals have nothing better to do ah? Why can't they talk to the RA on amicable solution rather than bringing this to the court? Obviously they are not working as a team in the community, they should be expel if there is a law to expel residents
    In 2011, 33-year-old Annie Ong Yen and her two-year-old daughter Artina Loke Xin Yu died in a blaze in Taman Sri Sinar, Kepong when firefighters had to cut a lock on a barrier installed for a GnG entarnce before they could reach them.

    I believe if the victims are someone you know, you would not post such comment and very likely you will be one of the 26 "rascals" in which in your opinion, have nothing better to do..

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