The Mystery of MH370

[Rhiga]

Each time after a tragic incident, there will be some experts in this forum sharing their expert thoughts . I really wonder what a waste and what a shame their talents are not utilized by them as a career or as a service for those who need their expertise..

Apart from verifying passport details, the extra measure by the immigration officer is to scan finger print. Some countries like Japan have extra measure to scan the iris .

Who the f will check whether your name match your look ??

Your pink lip 1pm look more like xxxnnx than a standard apanama, he must be using a fake passport then...

[bslee]

Not to forget the thousands of adopted Viet children after the war, who should be adults now.

Whats that got to do with this tragedy?
Maybe some thumbprint scanning procedure to positively identify passengers..but then again, thats possible with all Malaysians, but not all foreigners, only identifiable with passport and visually.

[SiangMalam]

Chill lah Rhiga-san...

I actually lost a very good dear friend on this flight - she's a 45-year old Chinese lady staying in Goodyear Court and a very senior stewardess with MAS... with young children and a husband... ex-Malacca girl. I knew this few days back of course and I double confirm with other friends in MAS (as well as USJ27Resident who just flew off to Narita...)

What can I do - except pray for a miracle... who knows - maybe some real stupido actually stage-managed this to distract the people from 1MDB RM60 billion timebomb, MAS RM1.1 bil loss, Proton's RM3 bil potential loss... and the 'real reasons' why Anwar did the Kajang Move? - and the plane is actually somewhere... with hijackers inside... why didn't the Malaysian government tell the world? becoz it will jeopardize the ongoing negotiation with the hijackers...

[Rhiga]

It is indeed a very difficult moment for the family members, friends and colleagues.

I have a relative who worked in the semi-conductor company with 20 staff onboard the plane.. He spoke to me yesterday.

[Fabe18]

Where's the verified source to say that the passport holder has Asian features???
Please share the news portal reporting that..

As far as a passport is concerned, as long as the passport holder looked like the person in the photo, it's a go... Especially if the passport holder and photo has features/make up which corresponded which the region of origin. Isn't this the norm?

I'm in the opinion that only only when the passport or the holder is suspicious ie visual mismatch, signs of forgery, then additional checks would be performed, that's when the person(s) would be led to a holding room for further verification.

And persons boarding plane with forged passport is nothing new lah... But on this flight, the 2 passengers with forged passports getting the tickets at the same time from the same source does raise a much louder alarm.

[Henry T]

Where's the verified source to say that the passport holder has Asian features???
Please share the news portal reporting that..

It was the Home Minister who said that. Who or what gave him the idea?

He must be one smart-alec.

[SiangMalam]

It was the Home Minister who said that. Who or what gave him the idea?

He must be one smart-alec.

Aisehman... read the reports in cnn.com or the press conference by DCA boss. The DCA boss, under the law, is the #1 man in investigation of a plane accident. FAA and FBI all in KLIA oredi....they have seen the CCTV... they see the time of check-in and the counter that checked you in in the boarding pass... then look at the CCTV of that time / check-in counter and match passport to boarding pass to CCTV... magic! No... its basic... you can see them in Air Crash Investigations on Discovery Saturday afternoons....

[kkearthling]

UAE immigration’s database is based on finger print, facial recognition as well as iris scan, perhaps why they can secure their borders and entry points very well. I have perfect vision before my eyes were scanned a few times many years ago, now I need reading glasses I am sure not due to the scan, I hope due to natural aging process.

In China, their Metro trains (similar to MRT/MTR) have X-Ray inspection machines for baggage at the entrance. It’s kind of troublesome but I am not complaining. As for their Immigration at airport, the officers would scrutinize you & inspect from head to toe for a long time, if you have dyed your hair or aged a lot or your child has grown a lot since the passport photos were taken, then expect standing in the box longer.

Many countries have or are trying to improve their security after 9-11. Many have not.

I am not sure where we stand (M'sia) in terms of our biometric system. Practically, as a citizen, if our own citizens give full cooperation instead of not registering their foreign workers or continue to employ illegal immigrants, etc, I am sure we will have a better database and security sooner.

In this current unfortunate event, passengers using stolen passports mean loopholes and/or simply due to complacency. This security lapse is indeed serious, embarrassment magnified further due to the media coverage on the missing plane. We can only wait & see, let the authorities do their jobs.

“Stay Strong!”, to the families of passengers and crew. HOPE that the plane is found soon.

As for the rest of us, have enough sleep & drive safely.

[kuma]

Whats that got to do with this tragedy?

I say Lee, .....don't just read my post....read what is quoted there too

Here....this link should take you to Post#60 in this Thread....
http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/uploa...964#post576964

[Rhiga]

The two "passengers" with forged passport bought a ticket to fly from KL to Beijing for transit to Amsterdam. Beijing is not their last port of embarkation. I think they wanted to avoid visa application as transit passengers do not need visa. They may have records in PRC database which can reveal their identity during visa processing.

For Schiphol airport in Amsterdam, EU passport bearers do not need visa and have a faster clearance at the EU Passport counters. Maybe this is the reason Austrian and Italian passports are targeted by them.

[besitai2007]

Our eminent Transport Minister said that we don't use the lost passport Interpol database! Do you agree with the reason he gave?

[kuma]

"Malaysian Muslim Lawyers Association today urged Malaysia Airlines (MAS) to introduce Muslim prayers before flights and also sought for the airlines to refrain from serving alcohol aboard its flights."

“Everything that happens on Earth and in the sky is Allah’s decision. We pray that Allah gives us signs and pointers so that the passengers can be found,” PPMM said in statement here. "

Read@MalayMail

[Henry T]

The two "passengers" with forged passport bought a ticket to fly from KL to Beijing for transit to Amsterdam. Beijing is not their last port of embarkation. I think they wanted to avoid visa application as transit passengers do not need visa. They may have records in PRC database which can reveal their identity during visa processing.

For Schiphol airport in Amsterdam, EU passport bearers do not need visa and have a faster clearance at the EU Passport counters. Maybe this is the reason Austrian and Italian passports are targeted by them.

Another possibility is that the onward ticket to Europe is just a red herring and to do away with the need to apply for a Chinese visa and risk their stolen passports being detected. Their destination/target is really Beijing.

[Fabe18]

Another possibility is that the onward ticket to Europe is just a red herring and to do away with the need to apply for a Chinese visa and risk their stolen passports being detected. Their destination/target is really Beijing.

Don't u think the investigation team thought of that before you did as they have more information available to them.. But then they can't announce this officially.

What we are reading and discussing here is just shiok sendiri loh...

[kuma]

Our eminent Transport Minister said that we don't use the lost passport Interpol database! Do you agree with the reason he gave?

"When asked why did the Malaysian immigration officers not use the system, he rebutted: "Do you know how many passports are reported missing to Interpol? I was told it's 40 million".>>Link

I suppose its a fair answer....our 'Boleh Supercomputer' probably has a 'professed' limit to scan 20 million

But again in all fairness.....imagine if they ran thru' each and everyones passport, with the database at check in?.....thats why the Embassies take so long to grant a visa, there they check it, I suppose.

Looks like these chaps knew of the loophole....I would go with Henry's hypothesis