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    The Secret To A Long and Healthy Life ? A High-Rise Flat.

    " The secret to a long and healthy life ?

    A HIGH-rise flat: People who live below the eighth floor
    are 22% more likely to die early. ''


    (But those living on the ground floor are 60% less likely to
    commit suicide by jumping.)


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...ie-early.html#



    The relevant study :

    High life in the sky ? Mortality by floor of residence in Switzerland
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    http://link.springer.com/article/10....654-013-9809-8


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    Living in high rise flats can be stressful (and thus shorten your life). There is always the spectre of a further increase in monthly management fees. This may be likely as the 15% hike in electricity rates means more elecitricity cost in maintaining facilities in common areas leading to shortfall of funds, and resulting in increase in management fees. There are problems relating to the idiot living above you who drags his chair across the floor and plays loud music to disturb you. There are lazy and inconsiderate people living in upper units who throw rubbish out of their windows and letting these bits of food and junk land on your balcony or backyard. Not to mention inefficient security guards who cannot understand what you say to them and likewise you can't understand them either.
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    On Quantum level, the clock is slower for those who live higher.
    Is this why they live longer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by besitai2007 View Post
    There are problems relating to the idiot living above you who drags his chair across the floor and plays loud music to disturb you. There are lazy and inconsiderate people living in upper units who throw rubbish out of their windows and letting these bits of food and junk land on your balcony or backyard. Not to mention inefficient security guards who cannot understand what you say to them and likewise you can't understand them either.
    THESE ARE LOW CLASS, LOW MENTALITY and UNcivilized people! Only around or at barbarian attitude and character in the 21st century. The corridors can be very untidy, lifts smell of urine, lifts vandalized, graffiti on walls, staircases with junk stuff, open areas with unwanted or torn sofas, canopy strewn with rubbish..numerous issues I've seen enough to rate it no better than slum living. Then one can see whole list on public notice board of defaulters owing outstanding maintenance fees reaching thousands of $$..etc.
    It all continue to this day...hopeless places! I cringe when I happen to observe how people can live like this or just don't care about anywhere just outside their own home entrance door!
    Fully developed land konon!... when attitudes don't change...forget progress!!..its not about tall and fancy structures only or 21st century transportation!

    LASTLY!...there are ASSWHOLES, MORONS AND LOW CLASS people here in USJ SUBANG who THROW THEIR JUNK OR BARANG AT ROADSIDE thinking MPSJ is going to clear them soon!..anything goes, as long as they're NOT caught!...BLARDI A!!!!!

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    That fella from Kerala works as an advisor to the national oil company works on the 88th floor is already coming to 90 soon.... what further proof you need?

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    Always the exception and minority...numerous people die before 60 for all sorts of reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bslee View Post
    Always the exception and minority...numerous people die before 60 for all sorts of reasons.
    Go build a small house on top of a cliff at Busselton on the west coast of Australia... cheap land there... or build at a high hill in Garut in South Java facing the sea... live another 5 years...

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    No need so far away lah..Cameron Highlands could do quite fine. Only a matter of wanna move or not...Cocksure the air there is much better than downtown. Already urban pollution may have already taken a few years off everyone who lives here. But!...if I strike lottery and big..you bet I move off this land in a couple of months...

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    Quote Originally Posted by besitai2007 View Post
    Living in high rise flats can be stressful (and thus shorten your life). There is always the spectre of a further increase in monthly management fees. This may be likely as the 15% hike in electricity rates means more elecitricity cost in maintaining facilities in common areas leading to shortfall of funds, and resulting in increase in management fees. There are problems relating to the idiot living above you who drags his chair across the floor and plays loud music to disturb you. There are lazy and inconsiderate people living in upper units who throw rubbish out of their windows and letting these bits of food and junk land on your balcony or backyard. Not to mention inefficient security guards who cannot understand what you say to them and likewise you can't understand them either.





    As the authors of the study cautioned :

    '' Clearly, our results are not applicable to tower blocks in deprived areas of Glasgow, where high-rise housing tends to be in poor physical condition, with poor sound insulation and security. ''


    That would be more in line with those flats in San Peng, Loke Yew road, etc.


    As well as these NATO's servicemen's flats in Germany in this 1967 study :

    Families in flats.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...02315-0034.pdf

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    This would apply more to those flats/apartments up to about 5 floors, without a lift.


    '' One contributing factor could be a higher level of physical activity, due to regularly
    climbing the stairs to the apartment.

    The classic study by Morris et al. [22, 23] showed that bus conductors who climbed
    up and down the stairs of the English double-decker buses had half the coronary
    mortality of the sedentary drivers. ''


    '' In a recent meta-analysis of cohort studies we found that as little as 20 min of daily
    moderate to vigorous activity each day was associated with a reduction in all-cause
    mortality (relative risk 0.86. ''

    http://link.springer.com/article/10..../fulltext.html


    The 20-minute exercise benefit study.

    http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/40/5/1382.long

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    I think long life has something to do with your gens.

    For example:-

    Nelson Mendela had a hard life in prison for 30 years and yet he lived up to 95.

    Australian natives (Abo) die at an average age of 45

    Turtles do not excercise and yet their life span is abt 400 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by besitai2007 View Post
    Living in high rise flats can be stressful (and thus shorten your life). There is always the spectre of a further increase in monthly management fees. This may be likely as the 15% hike in electricity rates means more elecitricity cost in maintaining facilities in common areas leading to shortfall of funds, and resulting in increase in management fees. There are problems relating to the idiot living above you who drags his chair across the floor and plays loud music to disturb you. There are lazy and inconsiderate people living in upper units who throw rubbish out of their windows and letting these bits of food and junk land on your balcony or backyard. Not to mention inefficient security guards who cannot understand what you say to them and likewise you can't understand them either.

    Good summary of what happens. I would like to add..

    1. Management who impose all sorts of house rules to make life more miserable for residents.

    2. Corrupt management who collects money but don't do maintenance well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ng View Post
    Good summary of what happens. I would like to add..

    1. Management who impose all sorts of house rules to make life more miserable for residents.

    2. Corrupt management who collects money but don't do maintenance well.
    it seems to me,you stay in a condo,wouldn,t to share your stories.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by besitai2007 View Post
    Living in high rise flats can be stressful (and thus shorten your life). There is always the spectre of a further increase in monthly management fees. This may be likely as the 15% hike in electricity rates means more elecitricity cost in maintaining facilities in common areas leading to shortfall of funds, and resulting in increase in management fees. There are problems relating to the idiot living above you who drags his chair across the floor and plays loud music to disturb you. There are lazy and inconsiderate people living in upper units who throw rubbish out of their windows and letting these bits of food and junk land on your balcony or backyard. Not to mention inefficient security guards who cannot understand what you say to them and likewise you can't understand them either.
    I have stayed long in both landed property and apartment. I wouldnt dispute your comments but then, there is always the other side of the fence. Please allow me to add:

    "is always the spectre of a further increase in monthly management fees"
    LANDED: Need to hire maid to clean your house? Possible also salary increase? And
    your grass cutter or gardener?

    "more electricity cost in maintaining facilities"
    LANDED: If electricity cost goes up, landed also kena !

    "problems relating to the idiot living above you who drags his chair across the floor and plays loud music to disturb you"
    LANDED: Can also face same problem from your neighbours next door. I had one whose cock (real one! :-/ ) crowed every morning and the smell from the shit...boy it was very taxing! And then there was one with more than 10 cats than kept coming to shit in my compound and scratch my car! This neighbour literally made me sold off that house. And then there was another one that kept hanging their clothes over our common fencing wall. It was not very pleasant having undies etc hanging over your wall almost every day! And then there was also a karoke neighbour that drove me up the wall !

    "lazy and inconsiderate people living in upper units who throw rubbish out of their windows"
    LANDED: How about the neighbour that kept throwing cigarette butts over into your compound? And the neighbour that kept throwing their rubbish into our rubbish bin. Aiyo, like cannot even afford to buy their own bin!! And sometimes because the bin is full, they would just throw their rubbish around our bin!!

    "inefficient security guards who cannot understand what you say "
    LANDED: Well....still better than having none at all considering the crime situation in this cowboy country !!

    So I think a lot boils down to one's luck. I have had my fair share of frustration living in landed property. And yes, there are some setbacks in apartment living too. But at the moment, safety is most important to me and I am quite happy living in a guarded apartment.

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    Great comeback there, Patrick! Agree 100%.

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