Seeking advise from those experienced parents on viable options of further education.

[orchipalar]

Good for the little one. Next challenge, getting a job

Err...come to think of it again...maybe O could say it in another way.

Many moons ago...O recalls having mentioned before an example about a certain well known medical practitioner by the name of Ch***g sifu.

NOT sure if he is still around or not...but he used to operate from a stall inside a traditional medicine shop at PJ SEA Part right opposite the market.
NOT too long later he rented a shoplot a few shops away from its original operation.
Other than that NOT much has changed.

Still he was treating about 80 or 90 patients daily from 0800 until the queue numbered cards kept repeating itself...
patients after patients...

On each of his patients...he would spent upto 10 minutes of his treatment practices..n at the end of the session...
he was paid 30 to 40 ringgits.

It is common knowledge that O's mathematics is poor...but roughly estimating...
he was perhaps being paid in CASH at the rate of about 3000 ringgit daily...averagely.
As far back as O would recall seeing him on the previous occasions...O had not noticed
whether he had any sort of qualification paper being framed up or hung on the wall...
(O might have been wrong about it though)

So anyway back to the matter of...getting a job n do allow O for asking...
what REALLY is going on in the minds of so many folks...?

Is the task of getting a job really been so physically or emotionally or psychologically difficult for many?
Is it for the sake of self ego...status...or pride?
Is it NOT really for earning a living...or money?

As some would say...there is more than one way to skin a cat...
O would always agree to that...

[Geofoliage]

.....Is the task of getting a job really been so physically or emotionally or psychologically difficult for many?

YES, when there is an oversupply of job seekers in that profession.
YES, when the job seekers have family obligations to take care.

and YES, when there is a another reason that I am going to explain next

..Is it for the sake of self ego...status...or pride?
Is it NOT really for earning a living...or money?

As some would say...there is more than one way to skin a cat...
O would always agree to that...

For certain professions like doctor, engineer, lawyer who wanted to practice themselves, getting the 1st job to fulfill the studies requirements, is not about money, not about status and ego, it is a mandatory condition or a visa to practice in future. Of course, the exception is not to practice what one has studied and do something else which has not be regulated by laws.

Hmm.. about your suggestion of setting a table under a shade like the traditional Chinese practitioners last time, I am not sure how this can fulfil the conditions as requested by the laws before practicing.

Your kid is studying in IMU. If he chose to complete the medical studies all in the local campus, the bill is about RM500k. If he decided to do "twinning", then the bill will be around RM300k plus another RM700k+ in the overseas university...

With half a million to one million investment in education, you seriously think getting a job is not a physically or emotionally or psychologically challenge especially in the oversupply of medical students now .... and the foreseeable acute oversupply in the next few years..

[orchipalar]

...With half a million to one million investment in education, you seriously think getting a job is not a physically or emotionally or psychologically challenge especially in the oversupply of medical students now .... and the foreseeable acute oversupply in the next few years..

Err buddy...O can understand if there is really a foreseeable problem with oversupply or "flooding" of medical graduates struggling to get enlisted for housemanship, as you have put it, the visa to practice as a medical doctor.

Way before little O decided to take up the challenge, he had his worries too on the subject matter that you have spoken about...
O specifically told him back then...there is absolutely NO concern from O about any of such future problem n that he too should not think
to much about.

O showed him precisely where the money would come from n it is way sufficient for him to continue on with his dream of pursuing medical studies until
that money runs out...
Then he could decide what he wants to do by that time he would be old enough to decide what's best for him to do for securing his own future..by then.

Then as O recalls now...O painted him other related scenarios...where facts lie in the real world from back then
until the foreseeable future that O could imagine.

There is still no cure for a common cold...n plenty of
People are dying from HIV or plenty of other diseases or sickness that no certain cure has been found yet..
There might even be widespread famine, plagues or war that would kill millions of people...
n last but not the least...there are plenty of sh*ts that goes on in the biological n chemical environments that humans live on
these days that are still unknown to Science or medical science...

Lastly O told him exactly this...just treat the whole damn future things as a journey.
Just do his best for whatever field of medical science research or studies that he would choose
to excel from time to time during his journey..

Then when it comes to earning a living...n about the money.
Take it from his dad...even though O is now even jobless passing the retirement age.

It would be entirely another life learning process n experiences that he would get to face sooner or later along in his lifelong journey.
But first, take it one step at a time, as the great Confucius had meant to say..

That was how soon afterwards.. little O decided to embark on...his present journey.

[orchipalar]

Hmm.. about your suggestion of setting a table under a shade like the traditional Chinese practitioners last time, I am not sure how this can fulfil the conditions as requested by the laws before practicing.

Err buddy...O knows about such mandatory things.
but when it comes to getting a job for making money...to put food on the table...
or as you have put it...to fulfill family obligations...as the ultimate goal in life.
O is saying...you don't even have to be a blardy MMC certified medical docter to achieve that goal..

Come to think of it...plenty of articles have been written by countless of experts in the field addressing the oversupply or flooding
of medical graduates problem in the country...
Why the heck they don't even attempt to get ALL those private medical universities to bring the Medical Study fees down by the proportion of oversupply medical graduates rate?

Why are these so called experts merely passing farts so to speak...or pissing in whining about the same subject matters...
over n over again...instead?

[Geofoliage]

.....Lastly O told him exactly this...just the whole damn future things as a journey. Just do his best for whatever field of medical science research or studies that he would choose to excel from time to time during his journey..

It would be entirely another life learning process n experiences that he would get to face sooner or later along in his lifelong journey.

But first, take it one step at a time....

With the available resources to prepare for the kid's education, these are probably the best advices from a parent on the subject of future university education ..

I said about the same thing to my kid when I enrolled him in a new school when he was 8 years old. I told him he doesn't need to study hard to get a good income job in future. He should study hard because he likes to study and have strong interest in that particular subject. I told him when he pursues something that he enjoys doing and he is good in that area, rewards will pour in naturally.

It is my responsibilities to give him what he needs in his studies to embark a happy and meaningful journey in future..

[orchipalar]

According to the WHO, we already have an international deficit of doctors of more than 7 million. By 2035, the medical professional shortage will have reached approximately 12.9 million.

https://www.brainscape.com/blog/2015...onal-shortage/

此地不留人，自有留人之处。

Err..that simply means..IF this （syiok sendiri Malaysia Boleh） 3rd world developing country cannot even managed its increasing numbers of medical graduates..
there are other countries even the developed ones..that aspiring medical graduates could consider to serve..

So be it..

[Geofoliage]

...此地不留人，自有留人之处。..

Can't agree more....

According to the WHO, we already have an international deficit of doctors of more than 7 million. By 2035, the medical professional shortage will have reached approximately 12.9 million...

If the medical professional is referring to doctor...

I think the challenge (correct me if I’m wrong) is one must be a medical doctor in the country of origin or country where one completed the medical studies before one can be an asset that other countries are interested.

This is not a problem for those who study medicine in overseas and have a chance of horsemanship there. The problem is when one is still in the waiting list of horsemanship here and hence not yet a “certified” doctor, how to become an asset that other countries (with shortage of medical doctor) are looking for ..??

[Geofoliage]

Talk about medical professional, a Malaysian doctorate student is causing a buzz in the medical research field...
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/natio...ible-solution/

" Lam Shu Jie, 25, and her team of researchers may have found a slution to the antibiotic-resistant bacteria commonly known as “superbugs”. The team from Melbourne School of Engineering published a paper on Monday on a new treatment "

Her 1st degree is chemical engineering from Melbourne university, and she is from Chinese school..
http://www.sinchew.com.my/node/15685...BA%86%E6%88%91

" 留澳大马女博士生蓝舒洁认为，华小教育为她打下很好的基础，特别是在数理方面，对她日后决定往化学和医药研 究领域发展具有一定的影响，而华小所培养出来的刻苦耐劳精神，更是所有研究员必备的态度"

[Naka]

Talk about medical professional, a Malaysian doctorate student is causing a buzz in the medical research field...
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/natio...ible-solution/

" Lam Shu Jie, 25, and her team of researchers may have found a solution to the antibiotic-resistant bacteria commonly known as “superbugs”. The team from Melbourne School of Engineering published a paper on Monday on a new treatment "

and she is from Chinese school..
http://www.sinchew.com.my/node/15685...BA%86%E6%88%91

" 留澳大马女博士生蓝舒洁认为，华小教育为她打下很好的基础，特别是在数理方面，对她日后决定往化学和医药研 究领域发展具有一定的影响，而华小所培养出来的刻苦耐劳精神，更是所有研究员必备的态度"

She is likely to stay behind in Oz.

[Geofoliage]

She is likely to stay behind in Oz.

She may want to look for better place than Oz when she wants to go higher in research....

It can be other country including Singapore and even PRC.

[Jennylim]

Talk about medical professional, a Malaysian doctorate student is causing a buzz in the medical research field...
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/natio...ible-solution/

" 留澳大马女博士生蓝舒洁认为，华小教育为她打下很好的基础，特别是在数理方面，对她日后决定往化学和医药研 究领域发展具有一定的影响，而华小所培养出来的刻苦耐劳精神，更是所有研究员必备的态度"

Reminds me of a foreign university undergraduate's comment, " 我觉得好像回到SJKC 的生活，每个星期很多功课做，每个星期考试，期中考，大考！“ In this aspect, SJKC certainly gave him a good foundation - getting use to hectic life and doing well in every assignment, test, and exam!

Talking about Math, I recalled my ex-boss commented Chinese Ed students seems to be better in Math and he wonders why!

[Naka]

She may want to look for better place than Oz when she wants to go higher in research....

It can be other country including Singapore and even PRC.

You may be right.

[orchipalar]

This is not a problem for those who study medicine in overseas and have a chance of horsemanship there. The problem is when one is still in the waiting list of horsemanship here and hence not yet a “certified” doctor, how to become an asset that other countries (with shortage of medical doctor) are looking for ..??

Err..that so.

Then O would have to cut short or shove the decision to have gone into this premature retirement..

Sigh..have to find more money to send him overseas by the time the little Orchi finishes his IMU medical course here in 3~4 more years to come..

Damn O never get to retire at all..perhaps.

Oh yes..can shove the MMC housemanship too..

[Geofoliage]

...Talking about Math, I recalled my ex-boss commented Chinese Ed students seems to be better in Math and he wonders why!

Me think - it is because of the Chinese language...

Math is unfailingly logical, from 1 + 1 all the way up to the derivatives of trigonometric functions.

Ancient Chinese used numbers in poem, proverb and other literature like 七步成詩, 四面八方, etc.. etc. People who studied Chinese are exposed to a lot more usage of numbers than other languages. They used numerical description to illustrate everything whenever is possible, and the language is so much easier to describe numeric compares to English.

Also, the multiplication table that small kids in Chinese school as young as six years old used is the BEST tool to build math foundation. A lot of people don't know the logic/basis of the multiplication table is a specific math subject in upper secondary school. Knowing the table well will help the learning of basic math at very young age like multi-digit multiplication, long division, fraction, etc...

[currymee]

From my experience and observations, it is more due to the EMPHASIS factor.

SJKCs and Chinese Independent Schools do pay more attention and stronger emphasis on Science and Mathematical subjects compared to social subjects like Art, History, Geography or languages (except Mandarin and English).

While those in SMKs, there is a natural tendency towards the Arts.

Hence it is not at all surprising that on average the Chinese-educated students tends to be "stronger" in Maths.