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    I've that downloaded app on tablet. Nearest is PJ or Shah Alam..latest show 89 & 85 respectively..shouldn't that be quite ok here? Not 200 something...teruk!..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bslee View Post
    Goody goody!..Its started to rain now..
    I am glad USJ is raining. I was worried for my mom when Shah Alam hit 299 yesterday morning at 10am. At 3pm just now Shah Alam was at 85. Good!
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    Children back to school tomorrow. Hope they are able to wake up. I hope it rains more heavily tomorrow.

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    Following is the satellite picture from NEA Singapore as at 4:15pm this afternoon. Areas affected by haze reduce drastically (dotted blue line) and there are more clouds than yesterday. Hopefully, the clouds bring heavier rain.

    But PM 2.5 still high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bslee View Post
    I've that downloaded app on tablet. Nearest is PJ or Shah Alam..latest show 89 & 85 respectively..shouldn't that be quite ok here? Not 200 something...teruk!..
    Strange that I breathe in the air, it still doesn't smell right. Getting a MedKlinn Verse air steriliser.
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    A good article..

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    Indonesia has really got angry. It is acting like an elder while getting angry out of embarrassment.

    Perhaps, she thinks that as a "great power", she has lost face after being criticised by the "small" Singapore on such a "tiny" matter of haze. Therefore, Indonesian Minister for People's Welfare Agung Laksono made a response. He said, "Singapore shouldn't be acting like a child. It's not what Indonesians want, it's due to nature."

    Singaporeans and Malaysians who are facing difficulties to breathe due to the heavy haze almost got choked when they heard what Agung said.

    Just imagine, a big house owner in a residential area just played with firecrackers happily and did not care about smoking his neighbours' houses. His neighbours could not stand it and asked him to stop the act.

    The big house owner contemptuously replied, "What's the big deal? Don't be so childish! The direction of wind is out of my control. It's not what I want, it's nature. How could you blame me?"

    "If you want to put out the fires, you should pay me at least tens of thousands ringgit, not much can be done with just a few hundreds or thousands!"


    This is indeed the tone of Mr Agung when Singapore offered assistance. He replied, "If it's just half a million (dollars), better we use our own budget."

    I am not digging at Indonesia. In fact, there are many kind Indonesians. Particularly, being able to bear hardships and content with what they have are the strengths of Indonesians.

    Therefore, although Sumatra and Riau Islands are also blanketed with serious haze, local residents just endure it without complaint. However, the response given by the Indonesian government serves as the best example of poor people with great arrogance.

    As an emerging country, although its strength has been increased, it is still distant from prosperous civilisation. In addition to a visionary great power's empty glory and pride, it also keeps the self-esteem of poor country.

    With the contradiction of pride and self-esteem, it fails to establish self-confidence that is in line with its status. It is unable to face that the haze has caused harm to other country, and lacks the courage to apologise.


    In fact, the Indonesian economy has gradually connected to the world economy and thus, it should move with times and hold a modern country's world view, including respecting other countries and the ability to restraint itself particularly when it causes damages and harm to other countries, it must be sensitive enough to sense it and bear the responsibility.

    Remarks made to external parties must comply with diplomatic protocol and international norms. This is what Mr Agung should learn. Indonesia cannot run from the responsibilities of haze causes and impacts. It should face the facts, apologise to and cooperate with the affected countries to solve the problem.

    If they keep holding such an arrogant attitude, and continues to shirk responsibility, it would find it difficult to become a true great power.

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    Recently, when China announced their plan to stop importing lower grade coal, it was because of two reasons and these were valid reasons: 1. to reduce pollution as low-grade coal produces much more air pollutants and 2. to allow China's own coal mines to enjoy their own market and improve mining efficiencies and lowering cost.

    But Indonesia reacted strangely. The minister of mine went on the offensive and told a press conference, "if China wants to bully us, its OK. We will sell our coal elsewhere..."

    This was a clear example of sheer arrogance! Jaguh kampong! The minister never thought that there is no other low grade coal market except China and India and why should India buy more than what they need? Price level will drop. Many miners will close soon because price drop cuts into margin and over the medium to long run, it will not be profitable anymore....

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    Look at Indonesia fiscal performances over the last decade here:

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/indo...nt-debt-to-gdp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiga View Post
    A good article..

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    Indonesia has really got angry. It is acting like an elder while getting angry out of embarrassment.

    Perhaps, she thinks that as a "great power", she has lost face after being criticised by the "small" Singapore on such a "tiny" matter of haze. Therefore, Indonesian Minister for People's Welfare Agung Laksono made a response. He said, "Singapore shouldn't be acting like a child. It's not what Indonesians want, it's due to nature."

    Singaporeans and Malaysians who are facing difficulties to breathe due to the heavy haze almost got choked when they heard what Agung said.

    Just imagine, a big house owner in a residential area just played with firecrackers happily and did not care about smoking his neighbours' houses. His neighbours could not stand it and asked him to stop the act.

    The big house owner contemptuously replied, "What's the big deal? Don't be so childish! The direction of wind is out of my control. It's not what I want, it's nature. How could you blame me?"

    "If you want to put out the fires, you should pay me at least tens of thousands ringgit, not much can be done with just a few hundreds or thousands!"


    This is indeed the tone of Mr Agung when Singapore offered assistance. He replied, "If it's just half a million (dollars), better we use our own budget."

    I am not digging at Indonesia. In fact, there are many kind Indonesians. Particularly, being able to bear hardships and content with what they have are the strengths of Indonesians.

    Therefore, although Sumatra and Riau Islands are also blanketed with serious haze, local residents just endure it without complaint. However, the response given by the Indonesian government serves as the best example of poor people with great arrogance.

    As an emerging country, although its strength has been increased, it is still distant from prosperous civilisation. In addition to a visionary great power's empty glory and pride, it also keeps the self-esteem of poor country.

    With the contradiction of pride and self-esteem, it fails to establish self-confidence that is in line with its status. It is unable to face that the haze has caused harm to other country, and lacks the courage to apologise.


    In fact, the Indonesian economy has gradually connected to the world economy and thus, it should move with times and hold a modern country's world view, including respecting other countries and the ability to restraint itself particularly when it causes damages and harm to other countries, it must be sensitive enough to sense it and bear the responsibility.

    Remarks made to external parties must comply with diplomatic protocol and international norms. This is what Mr Agung should learn. Indonesia cannot run from the responsibilities of haze causes and impacts. It should face the facts, apologise to and cooperate with the affected countries to solve the problem.

    If they keep holding such an arrogant attitude, and continues to shirk responsibility, it would find it difficult to become a true great power.
    I reckon the arrogance of Indunesia is somewhat no difference from North Korea childish attitude which comes from rear side with bombastic tone. Empty vessel makes the most noise is what we have heard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiga View Post
    If they keep holding such an arrogant attitude, and continues to shirk responsibility, it would find it difficult to become a true great power.
    Rhiga-san, look at your last sentence and then look at this video posted earlier by Kuma... listen to the part where Bapak Saputra said: "We would have liked to informed you earlier but.... in Indonesia, we have many people...." This part shows [false sense of] arrogance....

    The other part where he made fun of the president: why fire, I don't know! why this? I don't know! why that? I don't know! This part is plain laziness and shirking responsible... especially those from Jateng (Jawa Tengah) and Jatim (Jawa Timur)......

    Then then last word: "Wa Ntek" which in Javanese is an all-encompassing word that means "ok, it's finished, finito, complete, time to move on, time to enjoy, relax"

    That's Indonesian character one needs to understand if one deals with them....



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    As far as I know and I can remember, the countries which are “fortunate” to be the neighbors of Indonesia never and I repeat never create problems (man-made or due to nature ) to this yet-to-be mighty country..

    On the other hand, Indonesia is historical famous in causing problems to the neighbors…

    1. "Kronfrontasi" to Malaya during Sukarno time.

    2. They invaded Irian Jaya and massacred tens of thousands of civilians during Suharto time.

    3. Their army-turn-pirate who kidnap and extort money from Malaysian fishermen (mainly Chinese fishermen from Perak & Selangor) for decades....

    4. The current haze problem is a yearly occurrence for the past 20 years....

    5. Kill and rape the Chinese-Indonesian as scapegoat for diversion of their internal social-political problems.. during Suharto and Habibie time..

    Etc..

    They are still distant from prosperous civilisation...

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    Have you noticed every time the Bintang paper writes something about impending drought / shortage of water it rains heavily?

    Next time no need to employ bomoh or other high tech rain makers. Just get Latok Wong to write something to push for the Selangor water project.

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    DOE API Website is quite efficient now ... not bad after getting their ass-kicked in the last few days ....

    Typical Malaysian civil service/school etc ... no kick, no move ...

    http://apims.doe.gov.my/apims
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    Seems like acceptable level here for now...but the near future may be different..no jumping for joy yet..enjoy while it lasts.

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    WOW !! Indonesian top-brass are SMOKING ... get ready for a fresh batch of "forest fires" soon ...

    http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/m...its-president/
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