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    Smoking banned in parks

    http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.as...90&sec=central

    We do not want anyone who visits a public park to be exposed to the smoking culture and second-hand smoke,” she said.

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    Not to worry, you'd still see some people fagging at some shopping complex entrances, regardless many people there or not.
    To me, the polluted HAZE and smoggy road vehicles are much worse to one's health!
    How much a ban can help is disputable. Perhaps ease the littering issue.

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    This should be done at all eateries!
    A wise man refrains from talking but a fool utters rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bslee View Post
    Not to worry, you'd still see some people fagging at some shopping complex entrances, regardless many people there or not.
    To me, the polluted HAZE and smoggy road vehicles are much worse to one's health!
    How much a ban can help is disputable. Perhaps ease the littering issue.
    Thank you, Lee.... I just think some anti-smoking people are over-reacting and over-exerting their rights... they suffer worse from exhaust fumes especially in basement car parks and yet they crucify us smokers....

    I am a smoker and I am a considerate smoker... I don't smoke in an eatery... whether its permitted or not, I will not smoke... but I hate those people who wave their hands in disgust when they see me smoking 10-15 feet from them... sudah lah.... they can sit inside a choking small RM35 an hour karaoke lounge with their boyfriends smoking away but they can't stand me smoking on my own 15 feet in a designated smoking zone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMei View Post
    This should be done at all eateries!
    All air-cond eateries are already banned. They should extend to all non air cond as well.

    We don't want to breathe poisonous smoke while we are eating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ng View Post
    http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.as...90&sec=central

    We do not want anyone who visits a public park to be exposed to the smoking culture and second-hand smoke, she said.
    First....they should work on having this [below] fixed...



    Then, they can go about making ridiculous, attention-grabbing statements.....like, you will be 'exposed to the smoking culture' when you see someone smoking in a park....but not when you go and hangout at the Mamak after you roamed the park! Geesh!

    Why don't the 'BAN' visits to the park when the API reaches a certain level? .....Nope, won't happen, becos that ain't gonna get them the 'right-kinda' media attention and invites to speak at Intl' Town Planning Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by ng View Post
    We don't want to breathe poisonous smoke while we are eating.
    Face It!.....You already ARE....the minute you step out of your A/C, air filtered house

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuma View Post
    First....they should work on having this [below] fixed...

    Face It!.....You already ARE....the minute you step out of your A/C, air filtered house
    There are different types of dirtiness. The air from cars is only dirty and not poisonous unless you lock yourself in the car with them.

    The poison in cigar is called nicotine and constitute one of the deadliest poison to men.

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    This kind of discussion doesn't go anywhere. There'll be smokers everywhere, litterbugs everywhere, air pollution nearly everywhere especially Klang Valley now and the future.
    Then there's the anti and people who still buy cigarettes... fact of life to tolerate, like it or not.
    I don't think I can rid my home of all the horrifying microdust I sweep from the floor everyday. It doesn't make my wife's asthmatic condition any better, doctors can do nothing either, move to Camerons or Fraser's perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bslee View Post
    This kind of discussion doesn't go anywhere. There'll be smokers everywhere, litterbugs everywhere, air pollution nearly everywhere especially Klang Valley now and the future.
    Then there's the anti and people who still buy cigarettes... fact of life to tolerate, like it or not.
    I don't think I can rid my home of all the horrifying microdust I sweep from the floor everyday. It doesn't make my wife's asthmatic condition any better, doctors can do nothing either, move to Camerons or Fraser's perhaps.
    If there is so much dirt already, why put more into your mouth ? We should all create a more healthy environment by having less dirt and less poison in the air.

    Look at Singapore, they don't have litterbugs. It is human that need to change.
    There are so many places in Singapore that there is a ban on smoking.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_in_Singapore

    Look at Thailand, Thais don't smoke inside restaurants or air-cond places. The ones who smoke are usually the people from China or Japan who go to Thailand.

    Chinese in China and Malaysia are notorious smokers.

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    Put it this way, no point you and I arguing or disputing this overwhelming problem. Yes, that little dot down there can be a basis of comparison, but I've little hope over here changes can be as enthusiastic to yield results quickly and to anyone's high expectation. It just doesn't happen and I don't see any real crusade that'll achieve any measurable result.
    As for polluted air, its even more overwhelming odds to address the issue and little is being done from recent times, only tiny steps at a time..50 years later perhaps and we're all 6 feet under by then. This country is hopeless in countless views I have. For example, I don't think I've seen enough, stringent or on the spot vehicle emissions test by relevant authorities. I think they should have on the spot inspections at every highway everyday if they're serious about it. I'm cocksure there's loads of fines and summons to issued! There's still numerous smoggy and unfit vehicles on the road everywhere. This is no war to win hearts and minds. The laws are there..go get them! (then we may see some association or union body blaming its gahmen harassment and disturbing their rice bowl!). I've said my piece. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ng View Post
    All air-cond eateries are already banned. They should extend to all non air cond as well.

    We don't want to breathe poisonous smoke while we are eating.
    Then go eat in an air-conditioned restaurant or a 5-star hotel lah... you pay taxes so do we, you have rights by all means but do not take away other people's rights. If you go to an area where smoking is permitted and you don't like it, stop breathing. Because we are not going to stop smoking simply because it is a designated smoking zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ng View Post
    If there is so much dirt already, why put more into your mouth ? We should all create a more healthy environment by having less dirt and less poison in the air.

    Look at Singapore, they don't have litterbugs. It is human that need to change.
    There are so many places in Singapore that there is a ban on smoking.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_in_Singapore

    Look at Thailand, Thais don't smoke inside restaurants or air-cond places. The ones who smoke are usually the people from China or Japan who go to Thailand.

    Chinese in China and Malaysia are notorious smokers.
    I always wonder why people like Zahid Hamidi is pushed into a corner and blurt out the unblurtable... ie go elsewhere if you don't like it...

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    http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.as...09&sec=central

    Our public parks must be smoke-free. Second-hand smoke (SHS) causes cancer and urgent action must be taken to discourage people from lighting up at parks where children and non-smokers gather

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    Quote Originally Posted by bslee View Post
    The laws are there..go get them! (then we may see some association or union body blaming its gahmen harassment and disturbing their rice bowl!). I've said my piece. Thank you.
    At least there are laws against vehicles putting out huge fumes of foul air. Enforcement is another issue. If there are no laws, vehicles can do whatever they want.

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    More than 1 billion people around the world smoke and 5 million people die each year from tobacco-related illness, according to the World Health Organization. http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2010/1...wide-annually/


    The World Health Organization estimates that 4.6 million people die each year from causes directly attributable to air pollution. http://www.sciencedaily.com/articles..._pollution.htm

    Indoor air pollution is estimated to cause approximately 2 million premature deaths mostly in developing countries. Almost half of these deaths are due to pneumonia in children under 5 years of age. Urban outdoor air pollution is estimated to cause 1.3 million deaths worldwide per year. Those living in middle-income countries disproportionately experience this burden. http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs313/en/


    Well, the statistics show about the same number of people die in cigarette smoke or die in bad air !!

    So, your choice... either way you die !!

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