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    Quote Originally Posted by SiangMalam View Post

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    If you can broker this "exchange" you can help me donate the money to the orphanage than for the medications to expire in my store room...
    Ok...and I am sure this Conmunity 'leader' (in your book) is also reading & following this thread. He knows my number and i will gladly broker the exchange on a neutral ground. BUT I will also PM him just so he knows.

    Maybe I take 10% brokerage fees? Yes? No?

    Yang Brokering ToonIstimewaUtamaxlatotupai


    p.s But no guaranti he will respond let alone money back Ok...I was told this fler was rather pissed with me (behind my back lah long long ago when I went to town and shouted from Mt Everest on the alarm system he vouched for (sold thru this forum too) but the seller failed to have an after-sales service as promised! Yup, the seller promised to contribute donno how many % of all sales in usj.com.my to donno where aledy...
    in luv with bikes...in lust with AphroditeS AWAS! Suspek is an Avid procurer to myths, lies, legends, folklores, i-ching, rumors, misinformation, cakap-ayam, spɹoʍ uʍop ǝpısdn puɐ˙˙DLL .
    p/s Take all the above with a XL salted duck egg, wash down with 2fingers of sodium hypochoride, and suck on to a pebble size tmn negara Rock salt

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    You can take any amount you like but as long as two conditions are met: the charity gets MORE than you and I don't want anything for myself... my preferred charity is Hospice Centre Penang.

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    Anyway Lato Tupai, I bet you my one crate of wrinkled and dried-up mandarin oranges left from the recent CNY he will not call you... coz I have already foreseen the reactions before I started this thread using all the POA/PPA (Potential Opportunity Analysis / Potential Problem Analysis) method.

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    I always find MLM people dishonest and deceiving. MLM is a flawed biz model and MLM people presented it as a perfect model. Here's some reasons why I do not like MLM. I am not saying MLM is illegal, just pointing out some reasons why I personally do not like MLM.

    1) based on the recruitment model (say 1 recruit 6), by the time you reach level 14, you are supposed to have 78 billion downlines, which is more than the world's population. At level 9, you are supposed to have 10 mil downlines. To hit 10% of the supposedly downlines is a miracle.
    2) 99% of recruits failed and dropped out. Uplines blamed these as 'quitters' without realising these 'quitters' at some time contributed to their overiding commission. Funny why these uplines do not call themselves ungrateful person. Less than 1% make money from MLM and lesser % make big money.
    3) 99.5% of recruits lost money (i.e. some who stayed on long enough still lost money) and wasted their time before they dropped out and these can be as long as a few years. Going to Genting casino looks a better bet (a little less than 50% chance of winning) than almost sure way of losing money thru MLM.
    4) the products are cheaper due to savings from lesser middlemen (wholesaler/retailers) is a fallacy. Savings from lesser middlemen are replaced by more expensive commissions and overiding commission. Thus, the products are much more expensive compare with retail shops.
    5) Less work with lots of free time is also a fallacy. Most recruits work very hard and spend lots of their time meeting potentials (unfortunately potential recruits, not real buyers).
    6) Instead of selling (i.e. work hard), MLM people spend more time recruiting cos these are more lucrative.
    7) there's this ethics issue of uplines enjoying the blood and sweat of downlines without much effort. The upline's only hard work to deserve their overiding commission was their good luck of recruiting the 'right person' and psy them a bit to continue to believe such flawed system. Imagine your boss hardly do anything while you work till your arse bleed (mostly meeting potential recruits)
    8) while MLM is a growing industry, cannot replace and will never outgrow the normal retail/wholesale trade and services. Statistics has shown that MLM still lags far behind normal retail/wholesale of goods and services, despite MLM's claim of miracle growth rate.
    9) The products are easy to sell is also a fallacy. Most MLM people consume the products and when in rare occasions they sell, most of the time it's at cost (zero profit). MLM people rely on commission for big $$, not profit from actual sales.

    There are many more but I think I better stop.

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    From the point of consumer/buyer, MLM should not be the place to buy product/service simply because the after-sales sucks and it is hard to get them responsible as the exit is wide open for them…

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiangMalam View Post
    You can take any amount you like but as long as two conditions are met: the charity gets MORE than you and I don't want anything for myself... my preferred charity is Hospice Centre Penang.
    23hrs 57minutes and counting down, since my offer to broker....

    In less than 4mins, I think you will win my crate of wrinkled kums (some with name & mobile #) and also some tins of lau-hong kueh kapet...

    I am using the more traditional SWOT & PPPO (u know swot but do u know Potential Problem Prevention Options)?

    Yang Betting TIUxlatotupai
    in luv with bikes...in lust with AphroditeS AWAS! Suspek is an Avid procurer to myths, lies, legends, folklores, i-ching, rumors, misinformation, cakap-ayam, spɹoʍ uʍop ǝpısdn puɐ˙˙DLL .
    p/s Take all the above with a XL salted duck egg, wash down with 2fingers of sodium hypochoride, and suck on to a pebble size tmn negara Rock salt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiga View Post
    From the point of consumer/buyer, MLM should not be the place to buy product/service simply because the after-sales sucks and it is hard to get them responsible as the exit is wide open for them…
    metink Aeyvon, Mway and maybe even that big time BjayaCorp Crook punya Kosway also give money back lah...mayb when i retire, i shalt join 'em to find out more.

    Again, I believe that ther are good & honest ones and there are the exactly opposite ones, Nah! make that twos, threes, fours, fives and more!

    Guess which sien-tann company i am joining in the near future? Maybe I set 1cure all thingamajig MLM company up meself? Watch this post!

    Yang Berjual CureAll Sien-tann TIUxlatotupai


    P/s for those who are successful in the MLM, I do envy u lot. U guys are the ever optimist lah...pah-si-beh-chow!
    in luv with bikes...in lust with AphroditeS AWAS! Suspek is an Avid procurer to myths, lies, legends, folklores, i-ching, rumors, misinformation, cakap-ayam, spɹoʍ uʍop ǝpısdn puɐ˙˙DLL .
    p/s Take all the above with a XL salted duck egg, wash down with 2fingers of sodium hypochoride, and suck on to a pebble size tmn negara Rock salt

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    If no "money back guarantee" don't promise lah....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiangMalam View Post
    If no "money back guarantee" don't promise lah....
    Bro sm, there must b a very small " no" among the guarantee....

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    Even in MLM, there is Code of Ethics and MLMers abide by them.... yang ini tak tahu malu langsung....

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    Wow.... heard lagi banyak stories over a cuppa tea today with a fellow forumer from Putra Heights here at the Gurney Hotel.... sungguh hebat!

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    SM,

    Share the incredible MLM story. No need to quote names.
    U won't miss what U don't know and U won't know what U are missing!

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    i hope SM is not refering to my soon to be launched MLM:
    1. Jhajuchat style special amulet (to be worn around the neck) made from very old and very secretive ingredients, guarantee to generate positive vibes & energy, attracting good luck, pretty girls, prospective high ROI bizzness and same time repel bad vibes, negative power including the unseens like orang minyak....

    2. Triple Oxygenated (h2o3) Water crystal. A special environmental friendly crystal developed by Emeritus Professor Hayamaki Okinafulak (R&D 32years). The crystal breaks down the normal Oxygen into 3portions and the nanosize enables fast and easy absorption into your body...

    3. a few products 3more that i am not at liberty to disclose ...

    Full details of the above product efficacies and the monetary benefits in joining the pioneer 'A-Team', will be shared at later date. Watch this space.

    Yang Berskimming TIUxlattoupai
    in luv with bikes...in lust with AphroditeS AWAS! Suspek is an Avid procurer to myths, lies, legends, folklores, i-ching, rumors, misinformation, cakap-ayam, spɹoʍ uʍop ǝpısdn puɐ˙˙DLL .
    p/s Take all the above with a XL salted duck egg, wash down with 2fingers of sodium hypochoride, and suck on to a pebble size tmn negara Rock salt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Challenger View Post
    SM,

    Share the incredible MLM story. No need to quote names.
    I got a fair bit on my plates oredi Challenger... I am playing slow chess game with Manulife, some frigging Chinese coal buyer from Guangzhou trying to squeeze some US Dollahh from me by holding my shipment at port making threats to make me pay demurrage if I don't grant a discount coz "he says" shipment is damaged.... I need to take care of some 250 mine workers in Flores Island demanding mattress to be at least 4 inchi tebal!!! So if I start saying something here, someone might get bengang and try me out in court hehehe.... just suffice to say I am not the only victim in this forum, okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tupai View Post
    ...2. Triple Oxygenated (h2o3) Water crystal.
    Well, with this h2O3 molecular formula of your crystal thingy, you are GUARANTEED to win Nobel prize in Chemistry....

    Forget about the mlm, the price money for Nobel is oredi 8-10 million Swedish kroner (USD 1-1.5 million)..

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