Have you ever felt cheated by doctor?

[Henry T]

How much consultation time a Boleh GP allocate to a patient?

3 min, 10 min, 15 min?

5 minutes, including the time you walk in and walk out of the consultation room.

[Naka]

5 minutes, including the time you walk in and walk out of the consultation room.

How many patients a Boleh GP can see in a normal working day?

Is there a limit?

[currymee]

KW,

I am refering to LOCAL GRADUATED DOCTORS - not to the cream of Bumi overseas trained doctors. BTW, maybe it is my bad luck, but until today, I have yet to meet one of these Bumi "cream doctors" unless you count Dr Mahathir (MAHA KLINIK) who was my family GP those early days !! Like him or hate him, he "was" a good family GP !!

I am also lamenting the Govt policy of LOWERING THE ENTRY BAR to medicine in the local universities for the "chosen" ones. Let's face the TRUE fact, STPM and matriculation are poles apart. We all know what is the standard of MATRICULATION is like .... Ask Harvard, Oxford, Cambridge or NUS if they recognise matriculation results .... they rather accept UEC than matriculation results !!

My wife teaches in a local university and complains daily that matriculation students can cause the lecturers to "vomit blood" ... both Bumis and non-Bumis matriculation students !!

For me, MEDICINE is one profession that you don't muck around with QUOTAS, LOWER ENTRY BAR etc .... and they did !!!

[currymee]

ALL I WANT IS GOOD RELIABLE AND TRUSTWORTHY DOCTORS IN MALAYSIA ... I don't care what race or nationality ... but I am also pragmatic enough to know and have seen the years of political meddling into the training and selection of medical professionals, until,... it is NOW RISKY to go and see a doctor ... for they may BE REAL "QUALIFIED" QUACK DOCTORS !!

I yearn for the days when the REAL CREAM OF MALAYSIANS do become doctors ON PURE MERIT .... as real lives are in their hands - NO JOKE !!

You can mess around with quotas and lower entries for soldiers, police, teachers, engineers, accountants, etc ... BUT DON'T PLAY-PLAY WITH DOCTORS - I draw a THICK FAT LINE here !!

[zinglicious]

CT scans are good diagnostic tool for patients, but they deliver much more radiation than x-rays and may be overused according to Barton Kamen, MD, PhD, chief medical officer for the Leukemia & Lymphoma Societ USA..

High doses of radiation can trigger leukemia, so make sure scans are not repeated if you see multiple doctors, and ask if another test, such as an ultrasound or MRI, could substitute.. One-third of CT scans could be unnecessary for doctors to make diagnosis.

Hospitals often encourage doctors to scan here or there and were given incentive to do so as it is lucrative just to duit it.

It is like most babies delivery are surgical induced instead of normal birth compared to yesteryears. it seems that the doctors have no patience to wait for long hours and can charge more if it is done with a cut.

[rospet]

During my time never heard of such result can get you into UM to do MBBS. Engineering, may be! Other U are easier, UKM has lower requirement for non-bumi. Not only that, compare to UM, UKM has lower requirement for most of their courses. Lower requirement for second class upper too!

my school mate ( 1985 STPM ) scored 4A1B, UM Medicine, my senior ( 1984 STPM ), 3A2B UM Medicine and my junior ( 1986 STPM ), 4A1B UM Medicine but those 3A2B must wait for luck.

[kuma]

How many patients a Boleh GP can see in a normal working day?

Is there a limit?

A "hard working GP" once told me that once he crosses 150 patients for the day.....he's had it.....totally bushed, and needs to seek consultation himself. He usually consults his best buddy, Johnnie Walker to help him make it thro' the rest of the day .....and then before he knows it.....it another day!!

Has Medicine come to a stage where its all about money?

Lets not generalize, there are lots of 'good' as in ethical, doctors still around....problem is, its getting harder for us to locate them....every industry has their 'unscrupulous practitioners'.....regretfully, the ones in the Medical Industry seem to be ever increasing as of late. Maybe its not all their fault,...... its the fact that they are part of an 'industry that's gone bad' as a result of the 'Big Boys'......But then again!.......once they get sucked in to that 'club'....the money's good....sometimes sooo good, that there's more than they can fill in their pockets....and then they are 'hooked'......and with it dies the Hippocratic Oath [of which, they have conveniently altered to suit the times]

Its not the Doctors Fault....Blame it on Big Pharma

[SiangMalam]

During my time never heard of such result can get you into UM to do MBBS. Engineering, may be! Other U are easier, UKM has lower requirement for non-bumi. Not only that, compare to UM, UKM has lower requirement for most of their courses. Lower requirement for second class upper too!

Sorry disagree with you.... If you don't have 4 strong principal A's or B's, go elsewhere, no UM Medical Faculty, that I know..

[Jennylim]

Sorry disagree with you....

I said I have never heard of 2A2B and 1 for GP is good enough to get into UM to do MBBS?

[Jennylim]

5 minutes, including the time you walk in and walk out of the consultation room.

I was at a clinic in Taipan, in five minutes the GP seen 3 patients.

[Naka]

[QUOTE=kuma;545624]A "hard working GP" once told me that once he crosses 150 patients for the day.....he's had it.....totally bushed, and needs to seek consultation himself. He usually consults his best buddy, Johnnie Walker to help him make it thro' the rest of the day .....and then before he knows it.....it another day!!

Has Medicine come to a stage where its all about money?

Lets not generalize, there are lots of 'good' as in ethical, doctors still around....problem is, its getting harder for us to locate them....every industry has their 'unscrupulous practitioners'.....regretfully, the ones in the Medical Industry seem to be ever increasing as of late. Maybe its not all their fault,...... its the fact that they are part of an 'industry that's gone bad' as a result of the 'Big Boys'......But then again!.......once they get sucked in to that 'club'....the money's good....sometimes sooo good, that there's more than they can fill in their pockets....and then they are 'hooked'......and with it dies the Hippocratic Oath [of which, they have conveniently altered to suit the times]

Its not the Doctors Fault....Blame it on Big Pharma


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I was having coffee with a retired Indonesian Surgeon this morning at Mac Donald here.

He said there is a GP in Jalan Timor, Medan who see 5 patients at a time. 5 patients would walk into his clinic & sit in a row & this GP would ask each one of his/her sickness & write out the script on the spot.

Now who can beat this!!

[palmdoc]

Why bother to see a doctor? You can DIY

[tupai]

in my book, health cannot be measured by money spent/to be spent...Y would any1 wanna be the richest friggin' stiff in the cemetery?

Its the scruples of money minded greedy con artist doctor who uses his medical knowledge (??) as scare tactics on the 'poor' sick sod!.

And the 'poor' but sick sod could be an honest, god fearing successful multigodzillionaire who specialises in fabricating piston rings which the doctors also know nuts about!

...AND I heard more such scare tactics committed by private doctors than insurance salesperson, than unit trust consultants, and even tow truck vultures!

Yang Amat Berwaswas TIUxlatotupai

P/s My safeguard against such conmen doctors? (and i have failed too on this aspect on the eye dogtor..)

Get and retain your self a good GP, use him/her until deathbed (who ever comes 1st) Once found, such a family GP will be an invaluable source for medic check up, advice, treatment, diagnostic and more importantly, credible referral to see the specialist (whom he/she also know & trust)...else, its a russian roulette with 3chambers loaded!

[zinglicious]

What Tupai suggested is a good housekeeping move to ensure best of health care via GP. A good family GP would be helpful to suggest to you a list of specialists to treat difficult case from heart to plastic surgery. He would be competent enough to tell you about the pro and cons. In fact, with the letter of referral, you can be zoomed in to emergence treatment at the govt hospitals just like my brother in law who had a suspected cardiac arrest last weekend where most of the specialists were sleeping in the middle of the night.