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    54 year after independence the country didn't even have a place fo state top student!

    How far have the country grow and progress over the last 54 years?

    How do you grade the performance of the current government if higher learning institution don't even have a seat for state top student!

    He has to seek special help from people connected just to get enrol into a matriculation course!

    http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp...524&sec=nation

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    1 Malaysia as advertised Janjian Rakyat Ditunaikan in TV is a fiction storyline -

    A 12 year top state student with dire financial needs have to seek and beg for help for the con -nected in real life? And even then , it is all the way to Banting?

    Scholarship should have been given to those who have jump of the page excellent result with dire financial aids to mould them as assets for the country - not for those who can afford it and average results. Especiallly so for those who are con nected.

    ( On the other hand, can somebody send him a birdy tweeter that there are foreign Gomen who really wants to enrol him for his excellent academic achievement and despite having financial difficulties? My ex worker sister who achieved with less excellence result was given full scholarship in Singapura and has just graduated. Of course, she worked there earning Sing dollars and repaying the graditude. )
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    It used to be more than 30 years ago that it is rare to have more than x number of A, have standards drop so much that it is easy to get so many A ?

    Then why are there limited space even for top scorers for a certain race ?

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    It had been a long journey for the 18-year-old, who could not get into any local university or college during the March intake despite being Perak's top SPM scorer last year with 12A+.

    Amazing but true, there isnt a single place for her from Perak to Penang, Selangor to Johor !!! She either got to be con nected, have to have Mesti Ada Saudara, or with Bumfication? And with the MB of perak, She ended up in Banting.,
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    I fail to understand why someone with such academic credentials wanted to narrow himself into such limited choices…

    Imo, here is a list what he needs to do in order to fully capitalize the excellent academic results:

    1. He does not need to beg those be end fellas for help to enrole into the apanama no standard matriculation..

    2. He should not apply those apanmaa low standard courses offered by local varsities.

    3. He dose not need to apply JPA or any state gomen scholarship and later be bonded and wasted his talent.

    4. He does not need to apply the pathetronas university for enrolment and scholarship. Imo, this university is nothing but a joke. .


    Write or apply online to NUS as the first choice. At the meantime, apply financial assistance from Kuok foundation for the 1st year expenses for NUS and other renown overseas universities.

    If you are good, you also must not how to utilize it.

    The world is wide… don’t confined yourself to a little tight corner and compete with those a few levels lower than you.

    Don't give up and take the easy way competing with those useless materials..


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    Good answer,Rhiga,i think those fellas who scrutunise the app. should be SACK ON THE SPOT ! so that next time all officers who approve app.would be careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jan tomaswaki View Post
    Good answer,Rhiga,i think those fellas who scrutunise the app. should be SACK ON THE SPOT ! so that next time all officers who approve app.would be careful.
    Agree with Rhiga. The ASEAN scholarship is easily available for him. With 12As he is a shoo-in for that scholarship. He gets to study in Singapore for free!!

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    Let me make an observation here, in case you all maintain the confusion about top grade Form 5 students' results

    Let me tell you that if a student wants to enter universities of any good reputation, they will need to get good grades for a Form6 equivalent which is the equivalent for Cambridge's A-Levels. In Malaysia, that would be STPM.

    This top student only has SPM. Not to belittle his abilities and superb results... but let us face realities - he should go for A-Levels before crying that he can't get into local universities. And you lot now say how unfair it is. My fellow forumers, let us face the facts - since when did the local universities accept non-bumi students for matriculation courses? Have you all forgotten (or rather being misinformed) that the standard way to get into university is with A-level equivalent. Form 5 results are not considered. I am quite sure even NUS will not accept anyone with an O-level equivalent.

    And for all of you who jumped onto the bash-wagon -- tell me WHICH University in the world will take in any student with O-Level equivalent results? Come on, if you don't have A-levels, stop complaining ... go get into A-Level equivalent courses before trying. and by the way, matriculation courses (so called A-level equivalent) in local universities are actually for bumiputra students. Unless I had been out of touch, I doubt very much a non-bumi student is considered for local-universities' matriculation courses.

    So, my advice for all these knee-jerk reactions, please check and think before you bash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CS Chua View Post
    ...The ASEAN scholarship is easily available for him. With 12As he is a shoo-in for that scholarship. He gets to study in Singapore for free!!
    If you were to check to Singapore website for Malaysians to be accepted for the ASEAN scholarship, you will find that they are meant for Sec1, Sec3 and A-levels. There is also a scholarship for University degree but the student need to achieve good results at A-levels. So, in this case, the student with only SPM results will not be "a shoo-in for that scholarship" if you maintain the context of being admitted to NUS.

    O, by the way, I don't think Singapore will accept any student based only on their fantastic paper results as you suggested here.

    FYI, my nephew got the chance to apply for an ASEAN scholarship for A-levels in Singapore. The number of A's that he got was not really enough. He was actually accepted based on an essay he wrote (in English). Let me tell you this, with the glut of A-results, especially from Malaysians, it is not enough to get in on a string of A's. The student need to impress in their maturity of thought, lateral thinking and possibly being able to think out of the box. So, A's aren't enough and certainly not a shoo-in. Basically Singapore are not interested in paper-chasers who depend on rote-learning and memory work. Critical thinking is the key. Without that, don't rate your chances of getting that prestigious scholarship.

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    I came from Seremban with good set of HSC grades by Foh Hup Omnibus, a torn luggage with whatever shirts and jeans still wearable and RM50 in my pocket - and I could not get a state loan nor a scholarship nor a room in the residential college in UM....and I have to undergo a BEc(Hons) degree course....

    I survived and I even lent money to other students.... so don't come and talk to me about PTPTN and BN and whatever.... my advice is if you have a set of good O or A levels, go south to the little red dot! Forget this place... it just ain't the place that has played fair and who should know better than me?

    I lived in No 45 Jalan 17/3, a single-storey bungalow in Section 17 with 4 bedrooms, with 15 others! We have a timetable on who is supposed to do the buying of ham chin peng or yau char kwai at 1.00am from SS2 in front of Cheow Yang Restaurant because after 1am, baiwan get wan free! So we buy 8 and get 8 free! Everyday during exam when we mugged the whole nite till morning....!

    We survived then - because we could buy a Honda C70 or a CB100 and make money from giving tuition in the whole of PJ, KL and some say Port Klang and even Gombak, RM12 per primary subject per month or RM16 per secondary subject per month.

    For today, you cannot even afford the downpayment of a CB100.... so, go give a call to my buddy Lee Hsien Loong and seek help there... lets just face the truth, unless those bunch in power are changed, we are not gonna be treated fairly... and the way these fellas are throwing millions every other day to the Indian community and Sabahans, we will all have a black eye, just like the two pandas they are bringing in to remind you!

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    Let me make an observation here, in case you all maintain the confusion about top grade Form 5 students' results
    Let me tell you that if a student wants to enter universities of any good reputation, they will need to get good grades for a Form6 equivalent which is the equivalent for Cambridge's A-Levels. In Malaysia, that would be STPM.

    Not true. Some local universities like the Petronas University and University Technology of Malaysia (UTM) use SPM results as entry requirements. I enrolled into UTM Petroleum Engineering degree in 1986 using my 1985 SPM esult. Well, I scored 7As out of 8 subjects except Bahasa Cina.


    My fellow forumers, let us face the facts - since when did the local universities accept non-bumi students for matriculation courses?

    Not true.. about 5 years ago, MCA has "fight" for this matriculation to be relaxed and for political reason.. an agreement has been reached that 10% intake is opened to non-bumi. The crux of the issue is - > this top achiever from Perak can't even get a place in this phathetic matrikulasi. Are you telling me there are 10% of top achievers nationwide as good as him, Chang ??


    So, my advice for all these knee-jerk reactions, please check and think before you bash.

    I think this advice is applicable to you too...


    Have a good Sunday, Cheers.

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    One more thing, Chang… before I go for my breakfast..

    My wife is a NUS graduate. She enrolled into NUS without A level.

    She is a student from a Chinese private/independent school. She applied a place in NUS using the school result and was asked to take the entrance examination by NUS. She was accepted based on the NUS entrance examination results.

    If you have relatives or children study in university now.. you should know A level is not required to enroll into overseas university. The entrance test is a must. I have nephew and niece study in Imperial College and LSE (London school of economics) without A level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwchang View Post
    If you were to check to Singapore website for Malaysians to be accepted for the ASEAN scholarship, you will find that they are meant for Sec1, Sec3 and A-levels. There is also a scholarship for University degree but the student need to achieve good results at A-levels. So, in this case, the student with only SPM results will not be "a shoo-in for that scholarship" if you maintain the context of being admitted to NUS.

    O, by the way, I don't think Singapore will accept any student based only on their fantastic paper results as you suggested here.

    FYI, my nephew got the chance to apply for an ASEAN scholarship for A-levels in Singapore. The number of A's that he got was not really enough. He was actually accepted based on an essay he wrote (in English). Let me tell you this, with the glut of A-results, especially from Malaysians, it is not enough to get in on a string of A's. The student need to impress in their maturity of thought, lateral thinking and possibly being able to think out of the box. So, A's aren't enough and certainly not a shoo-in. Basically Singapore are not interested in paper-chasers who depend on rote-learning and memory work. Critical thinking is the key. Without that, don't rate your chances of getting that prestigious scholarship.
    There are Asean scholarship for different levels and I am not referring to University level because he only has F 5. There is no way he can get into a uni with only a F 5. It has been known to happen (did happen to a friend of mine who got into a BA in Music, Perth, because of his exemplary musical gifts demonstrated through a special audition arranged for him) but rarely. So, I was referring to a pre-University course. My son's friend got it but he did not get 12As in his F 5. Based on his case and the fact that the Asean scholarship is decided on merits, that is why I wrote that it is a shoo-in for him i.e. based on his 12As. But then there may be things about him we do not know which could disqualify him but assessments are made on what we know and not on what we do not know.

    The fact is, there are many options open for such students and I am sad that these options are not known to many parents. I know of some options because I put both my children through universities. Maybe it helps that we are educated at post graduate level but there should be government run agencies who can advise these parents of the various options, both private and public sectors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiga View Post
    My fellow forumers, let us face the facts - since when did the local universities accept non-bumi students for matriculation courses?

    Not true.. about 5 years ago, MCA has "fight" for this matriculation to be relaxed and for political reason.. an agreement has been reached that 10% intake is opened to non-bumi. The crux of the issue is - > this top achiever from Perak can't even get a place in this phathetic matrikulasi. Are you telling me there are 10% of top achievers nationwide as good as him, Chang ??


    So, my advice for all these knee-jerk reactions, please check and think before you bash.

    I think this advice is applicable to you too...


    Have a good Sunday, Cheers.
    Rhiga is right, matriculation is open (limited) to non-bumi as well. The complaint is actually for lack of transparency in selection process, you see, there are non-bumi accepted with lower SPM socres.

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    This is the BN way of operating; create a problem, then "solve' it and claim credit. Examples:

    Land titles, applied for a few decades ago, granted just before buy-election
    Same for citizenship
    Blocked longkang, uncollected rubbish, wait for longkang politician to solve

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