Employers: Fresh graduates not suitable and are ‘liabilities’

[zinglicious]

Check it out - "Kenot spekulate, whether talk 1 or talk 2, it doesnt matter.". ( BTW. It was not sickening as people in the courtroom was laughing including the judge )



If the leading legal counsel with 24 years as loyar, Mong Mong Cha Cha kenot crossed examined properly and yet got legally challenged by a Thai pathlogist instead, it is Monkee see monkee do syndrome. I also kenot spekulate how to counter such issue where Bolehland graduate with such a degree of Komedi.

After all, I am just a cook where I know how to wok and pan aje.

[Raikonen]

Memang 95% the local uni grads are rubbish and cannot speaky english properly to save their nyawa...especially the crap from uitm

[Jennylim]

Why a fresh graduate a liabilty?
1. Lousy interviewer - don't know how to choose a candidate.
2. Lousy supervisor - don't know what kind of candidate to employ or don't know how to tap the staff's talent or capability.

[bslee]

I ain't sure if its an issue or another worrying trend, is the emulation of some English terms or words used in Bahasa Malaysia.
I've been taking the KTM train commuter to KL often in the past months, noticed something which IMHO, which may sound comedic. "Coach for women" or "Koc untuk wanita".
Anyone flinching?
I'm in Ipoh now, had dinner at a good Nasi Kandar shop, looked up to the a huge menu and price list signboard.
I giggled after reading NUMEROUS scheppling mistakes.
Cheh!...should have taken a picture!.. I reckon that signboard have been there for donkey years.

[eddychan]

Why a fresh graduate a liabilty?
1. Lousy interviewer - don't know how to choose a candidate.
2. Lousy supervisor - don't know what kind of candidate to employ or don't know how to tap the staff's talent or capability.

You left out:

3. Lousy company

Good companies attract good talent, even if the initial pay for a graduate is low. They know they have a chance for career advancement, and can gain valuable experience. Lousy company ... well, only desperate candidates would apply for the job, don't u think?

How do u rate a good company? They should have several tiers of employment at management.. for instance, they should have an internship program to speculate for potential undergraduates. Fresh graduates are then recruited to become junior management, then selected to senior management, and then VP level. Not-so-good-company.. u probably never see the boss, who is also CEO, who is also MD, and they expect u to run the operations from day 1. A fresh graduated employed here would be expected to do a "one-leg-kick", and hope that he/she gets to kick everything right except the bucket.

[wongjie90]

It's not only now. I had already sense the impending problem when I had problem hiring fresh graduate level employees during the early 90s. Couldnt speak English well, and most were retarded to write proper English even then! Must be worse now!

I think attitude and passion on your job are more important. You can see quite a lot of primary students now not even know how to sweep a floor , so what more you can expect from them ?

[Henry T]

It is not just the atrocious English. Try asking them some general knowledge questions. You'll be shocked they cannot answer something you already knew in primary school.

There are good ones, but they are in the minority.

[Jennylim]

You left out:

3. Lousy company

But your example sound more like big or small company!

Anyway, it is hard to get really good company. There is pros and cons about one-leg-kick. The positive side is you learn the most in the shortest time. Negative side is sometimes u probably over loaded with works. However, a good boss would give u good reward for yr effort.

I think some people became prejudice or irrational when they are obsess with English language. This is also why a lot of good employees did not get what they truely deserved. A lot of good employees were looked down just because they don't speak to impress the HR manager or the boss.

Once I was offered a high post after the CEO sat in my presentation, but I hv been there for so many years, just because he didn't hear me, doesn't mean I was lousy. I was just reticent.

[tupai]

My fren told me this "A 'good' company or leader/boss/manager/chairman/owner/VP/Prez or whatever fanciful title, do not judge the suitability of a potential employee by the mastery of english language alone..." ~ So i tink u flers r all shooting off the mark lah.

Also my fren said "the most problematic & know all staff are the so-called private-U, then spend 1-2yrs ovseas, inglis speeking...and there are gems amongst the local grads including UiTM and many other donno what alphabet soup Unis"

My fren speeking the truth lah. I was there as a CONsultant on headhunting prospects.

Yang Ada BerSpeekin inglis TIUxlatotupai

[HTCHONG]

My fren told me this "A 'good' company or leader/boss/manager/chairman/owner/VP/Prez or whatever fanciful title, do not judge the suitability of a potential employee by the mastery of english language alone..." ~ So i tink u flers r all shooting off the mark lah.

Also my fren said "the most problematic & know all staff are the so-called private-U, then spend 1-2yrs ovseas, inglis speeking...and there are gems amongst the local grads including UiTM and many other donno what alphabet soup Unis"

My fren speeking the truth lah. I was there as a CONsultant on headhunting prospects.

Yang Ada BerSpeekin inglis TIUxlatotupai

Yes, you are right …..it is a basic requirement and definitely not a competitive advantage at all.

[zinglicious]

Korek. English is a basic requirement that should be mastered as it was taught since primary schooling. If the applicants kenot master the stance under millions of joss sticks being burnt, how to jump off the page to impress the bosses or clients? Even you work for the Jaguh Kampung Sama Derby companies, you still have to tak 1 or talk 2 to foreigners who visit Malaysia where they would ask for directions or told in details why should they buy Tongkat Ali of its benefits.

Malaysia competitive age compared to other Asian countries in the past is having people who speak English from the civil servants or those who had completed LCE or less. Now graduates with extra years of higher education are unable to make a proper sentence of English? WOuld it not a liability if he is an engineer where the company gotta to give him a sexy translator as a company tool for him to communicate with the world of business either in emails or video conferencing?

Look at China, the transformation which have had taken place for the last 20 years. It is not just the landscapes in Shanghai or Shenzhen has changed. It is the people who can communicate in English. And take a closer look at those diplomats giving press conferences as compare to our officials in English speaking embassies from Washington to London.

Most of all, take one more look at MACC leading legal representation in the TBH inquest where he made everyone in the courtroom laughed. AFter all, he has 25 years as a lawyer and Malaysia is supposely a English speaking country as it is a core subject since primary school.

Yes , English is the basic requirement and if I can see a PYT where she can Hip with her personality and Hop on her attitude in the sea of 100 applicants during the job interviews, she would dazzle me with her asset.

One final look at this Drunken Master who has no primary English education appearing in the David Letterman show where English is a basic requirement while Kung Fu comedy is his asset.