Employers: Fresh graduates not suitable and are ‘liabilities’

[Charbroiled]

I find that not a surprise. English has indeed gone to the dogs in this country. It's sad. So sad. What can parents do to help their children? The rich folks have no problem. International Schools to the rescue! But what about not so well to do parents? What then?

[zinglicious]

What after students get super rating like AA gradings in Malaysian public exam? And speaking good commanding Inglish has everything to do with other interactive subjects i.e.Moral where it built up attitude to have a great presentation after they graduate. Sometimes the upbringing or the influence from school play the part to the future of our students.

Take a look at my son - he might be a future agent peddling arms for international market. Heck, I didnt teach him about arms and it is a coincidence that I found out about it. Maybe it was the school lesson from SRK (C) where he learnt how to cook up a gunning presentation. All wiritten and directed by him.

[ivanhow]

Handsome young man in the making, good for him. At least he will be in the forefront of arms trade. Who knows, our BN coolies may be dealing with him if they are still in our midst BTW, did u flip ur video in mirror, otherwise he must be a left-hander?

[zinglicious]

He just a ten year old child. I only teach him Kung Fu in self defence and doing houseehold works from laundry to folding his clothes, cooking and washing the dishes. Yeah, make him mop and sweep the floor as well with his sister.

But he is handy wiith his left hand to right hand with Game Boy and badminton , left foot to right foot in Facebook to Soccer. And amazingly, he self taught from models of Ferrarri to Lamborghini and the football team from players to coaches. Yeah, he bends like Beckham and dig into Pitbull songs.

What he did with the video - I also dunnolah whether he did the mirror version or not. But it seems that he did it for the 1st time as at the beginning of the taping over the webcam, you can see the surprised look on his face. The other surprising fact, how the heck he can describe various parts and function which puzzled me just like he could describe various models from Ferrari to Lamborghini. Toyota to Lexus. Now, he can even update me which team is on the top of premier league - And I dont have Astro at home! But this fella was surfing the football sites and watch them over youtube. Despite all his activities, he is in the top 2 of the class now as I used to ban him or limit his hours of all those activities last year when his grades were sliding to as low as 25th. Now dunno what to do with him.

I was impressed with how my brother was raising his children almost singlehandle in New Zealand as he was wifey was hospitalised often for breast cancer back then. Amazingly. his sons were top of the medical class while they have what it takes to be top chefs. His children started to work at Subway since 16 years old. These fellas save plenty of monies to finance thier own college and fundings to travel round the world before thier convocation.

What I am saying here is - I believe to mean as a Mean Chef or a mean Daddy where it is going to be meaningful to them when they graduate later in life. No use to score AA in the exam where in the pratical world, they kenot even interact either in Inglish, American , Chinese or Malay. As in the title of the thread - Graduates are the liablities basically of education system and also IMHO our Indomalaysian way of life where the maids are doing and taking away all the basic working ability.

Lastly, I am thinking to send him back to the States when he is 15 where he was born to takes up arms education where he can one day able to sell those submarines or jet engines from US instead of French Flies or Subway to 1Malaysia. Me - I would be replacing the Baginda fella as an agent. At least, the commision monies would be going back to charities like the Nobel prize

[fonzie]

Hmm......good lah....left hand/right hand oso can...ambidextrous. Good fundamentals to have/nurture to be a wannabe arms dealer. An arms dealer can't be seen to be taking sides in a deal...very dangerous leh...!

Cheers!

[zinglicious]

Perhaps the ex Chef , current Home Agent can turn into wannabe Double 00 Agent to bridge arms deal for 1 Malaysia from Amerika. After all. I can cook up Malaysian and American stories. No Liabilities as I am well seasoned and have asset from the basic weaponary training from firing up the burners to wok it up as ex Komodo Chef.
Yang boleh jualbeli untuk 1 Malaysia dimana enjin jet didahulukan, Kapal Selam di muat turun dan atasan

[Charbroiled]

How the thread has "blossomed"! From graduates with bad English no thanks to a compromised education system, illegal arms sales, secret agents, made in Indon maids, submarines to the ambidextrousness of it all! Interesting. Keep going!

[zinglicious]

It is all in the English 007 composition where it can be translate into American FBI story to get distinction in Stirred presentation and But Not Shaken comprehension.

[Anthony Bo Eng]

Dont know whether I am suffering from Paranoia or not.. I seems to belive our local public exam like SPM & STPM were graded high passes or low passes on the whim and fancies of the ruling Politician of the day. Cant help to mentioned there are students who I knew them quite well that all the while has poor grades and then scores excellent result in the end. Though I can see on their faces they themselves also could not believe it. However ,I would not spoilt their day with my 'crazy' thought which there is no way to confirmed that I am right ..

[patrick]

It's not only now. I had already sense the impending problem when I had problem hiring fresh graduate level employees during the early 90s. Couldnt speak English well, and most were retarded to write proper English even then! Must be worse now!

[Charbroiled]

It's not only now. I had already sense the impending problem when I had problem hiring fresh graduate level employees during the early 90s. Couldnt speak English well, and most were retarded to write proper English even then! Must be worse now!

Yes Patrick. You're right. Back in the 90's, there were a few interns from a U at my company. They couldn't even string together a decent sentence in English, let alone speak the language. And to think there were graduates from a U. Pathetic. It should be much worse now. I suppose no one at the Education Ministry saw the Internet coming and that English would become the lingua franca of the world. Tsk tsk tsk...

[zinglicious]

Yes, Patrick. Many employers concur with your thoughts. had a irend who is running an engineering construction company. Hired those engineer fellas where they could not to a business presentation in English to solicit his developers clients based on the reputable standing of engineering expertise and ability to carry out the mega projects with efficient costings. But graduated with honors in structural and civil engineering. Can construct building and roads as certified in the diploma from Malaysia Batu U - but kenot construct sentences without Manglish words in between. Well, in his words " my Ah Pek the contractor also ken do that except the verbal presentation.."

[Henry T]

Now they grade exam papers according to the Bell Curve.

A bell is widest at the bottom. So if most of the students score 11 marks (i.e. the widest part of the bell) then 11 marks is the passing mark. In this scenario those scoring 50 marks will get an A+++.

In my time 35 is the passing mark. One mark less, you fail.

[zinglicious]

It is a Dumb Bell grading exactly. Birds of the same feathers flunk together but got passed with A instead. No wonder, graduates are fit to work for KFC or NFC where meals comes with a punching act and cows gets high 5 living high at the Bangsal Kondo.

[bslee]

Can construct building and roads as certified in the diploma from Malaysia Batu U - but kenot construct sentences without Manglish words in between. Well, in his words " my Ah Pek the contractor also ken do that except the verbal presentation.."

SICKENING to hear such atrocious England!
So people! WHAT IS some ultimate solution (I mean doable and constructive, although electing alternative gahmen will NOT guarantee anything) to counter the issue?