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    Quote Originally Posted by cupofcoffee
    I use workbooks a lot to help my son improve his BM - he has to do a couple of pages daily.

    I was told that one of the best series of BM workbooks is the one by SASBADI for Sekolah Kebangsaan, but I have not check them out yet.
    When it comes to BM, do work out a systematic plan to home-tutor, while using workbooks are a useful aid, you may need to pay attention when it comes to teaching them the rules and nuances of using IMBUHANS ... that is a well-known "killer" as I was informed by senior parents .
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    Bro,

    I am 100% sure you are doing the right thing and definitely on the right track to lay a good foundation for the subjects of BM & English..

    Your revision methods, the choice of books and syllabus show you have covered a wide spectrum of the elements in laying a strong foundation..

    However (pardon me if I sound negative), I am curious of the availability of time and the willingness of the kid to be constantly expose to these two boring subjects.

    Donít get me wrong, I am agreeable with you that consistent revision preferably daily revision is the most effective solution ( I am doing this as well ) but I am puzzled how you effectively divide time for other subjects.

    My point is Ė Chinese, Math and Science are equally important subjects and require substantial amount of time for the kid to grab, especially Chinese which to me is a difficult subject to learn compare to BM.

    What I want to share with other forumer is Ė we need to know the strength and weekness of the kid in studies, and than plan the time accordingly.. Everyone has 24 hours only and how much the 24 hours can be utilize for the kidís studies is different for different individual.

    Just my 2 cents.

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    Bro Sagamihara,

    What I have outlined is THE COMPLETE PROGRAMME that will takes YEARS TO COMPLETE with the key targets at various stages like UPSR, PMR and SPM Lick Hung exams are just checkpoints now rather than key targets.

    What I do with my son is what the Chinese TCM "sinseh" usually perscribe - SMALL DOSES DAILY - he doesn't do more than 2 pages per day per subject and usually answers only 5-10 questions - so the dosage is "innocuous" and only takes him a maximum 1 hour for both BM and English (30 minutes each). I try to make sure I give him compact QUALITY lessons rather than quantity.

    I try to ensure that the subjects are not boring by switching materials and reading stories and passages from the various workbooks - i.e. I skip all over the chapters and workbooks rather than going through from cover to cover, one workbook at a time. I mix-and-match. So, at any one time, my son is doing simultaneously 3-4 workbooks with pre-selected sections by me.

    Chinese is another daily 30 minutes (same method) while Maths and Science are revised on the weekend. During the day, I just make sure that his school HOMEWORK are done properly on these non-language subjects. Furthermore, as you know, Chinese, Science and Maths are well-taught by the school teacher, so the burden has been lessened a lot !! It is only the BM and English that have been "messed up"
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    Bro, thanks for the clarification..

    Yup, small doses is the key..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagamihara
    Bro, thanks for the clarification..

    Yup, small doses is the key..
    One method I want to share is that INSTEAD of using storybooks (like what most pople will recommend), I actually use the passages in the comprehension/penulisan workbooks for reading !! - they are short, relevant to their school topics, at the correct level, follow syllabus etc ... so kind of killing many birds with ONE passage story per day ... hence, one day, my son will read about kite flying, next day, on CNY, next on holiday the beach etc etc ... all done in 10-15 minutes - slow reading but plenty of explanation esp vocabulary and sentence comprehension - most of the 30 minutes daily are spent here !! Then, he only answer the 5-10 questions after reading.

    This way, I build up his desire for reading and knowledge acquisition without "forcing" or "torturing" through storybooks which they may find boring and long after 2-3 pages .... I "wasted" a lot of money on storybooks before I chanced upon this method and now, it works wonders, every day my son eagerly look forward to reading the next short story in BM and English, and for example, using the Buku Rampaian, I get around 40 stories for RM3.50 - cheap and interesting !! (even I am interested !!)
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    Good KAMUS series

    From what I have checked and browsed, I found the BIJAK KAMUS LENGKAP series of kamus (one for Simpulan Bahasa, Peribahasa, Sinonim & Antonim and Kata Banyak Makna) by EASTVIEW (Marshall Cavendish Education) to be easy to use and applicable for the kids. It is not "heavy" but good enough all the way until secondary school

    There are plenty of good books out there - it just takes some time and effort to sift through them and pick out the "jewels" One of the key criteria that I use when selecting books is to think like a "child using the book" rather than an adult esp when buying reference books/dictionaries/kamus ...

    You don't want books that are comprehensive BUT imposing .... it will be a serious put-off ... just think Kamus Dewan or Shorter Oxford English Dictionary .... we just want the meaning but these dictionaraies pack all sorts of everything with dipthongs, past history, old usage, alternate uses etc ... WALAU, SCARY for an 8 years old or 18 years old also !! (or 40+ years old !! )
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    Quote Originally Posted by currymee
    Good KAMUS series

    From what I have checked and browsed, I found the BIJAK KAMUS LENGKAP series of kamus (one for Simpulan Bahasa, Peribahasa, Sinonim & Antonim and Kata Banyak Makna) by EASTVIEW (Marshall Cavendish Education) to be easy to use and applicable for the kids. It is not "heavy" but good enough all the way until secondary school

    There are plenty of good books out there - it just takes some time and effort to sift through them and pick out the "jewels" One of the key criteria that I use when selecting books is to think like a "child using the book" rather than an adult esp when buying reference books/dictionaries/kamus ...

    You don't want books that are comprehensive BUT imposing .... it will be a serious put-off ... just think Kamus Dewan or Shorter Oxford English Dictionary .... we just want the meaning but these dictionaraies pack all sorts of everything with dipthongs, past history, old usage, alternate uses etc ... WALAU, SCARY for an 8 years old or 18 years old also !! (or 40+ years old !! )
    Thanks for the tips esp the criteria for choosing a book. Now that you have mentioned it, I understand why my son prefers certain reference books than others - which I though was too simple and childish ... now, I know

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    Quote Originally Posted by currymee
    One method I want to share is that INSTEAD of using storybooks (like what most pople will recommend), I actually use the passages in the comprehension/penulisan workbooks for reading !! - they are short, relevant to their school topics, at the correct level, follow syllabus etc ... so kind of killing many birds with ONE passage story per day ... hence, one day, my son will read about kite flying, next day, on CNY, next on holiday the beach etc etc ... all done in 10-15 minutes - slow reading but plenty of explanation esp vocabulary and sentence comprehension - most of the 30 minutes daily are spent here !! Then, he only answer the 5-10 questions after reading.

    This way, I build up his desire for reading and knowledge acquisition without "forcing" or "torturing" through storybooks which they may find boring and long after 2-3 pages .... I "wasted" a lot of money on storybooks before I chanced upon this method and now, it works wonders, every day my son eagerly look forward to reading the next short story in BM and English, and for example, using the Buku Rampaian, I get around 40 stories for RM3.50 - cheap and interesting !! (even I am interested !!)
    I tried it and it works !!! Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by aerobax
    I tried it and it works !!! Thanks
    I am happy to hear that - once you have finished with Cemerlang's book, you can use other publishers books (Sasbadi, Setia Emas, Info Didik etc) or move up a Std
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    IMBUHANS

    Do pay attention and teach the kids well on this ... seems to be a "problem" topic to grasp and master for majority of LH students in BM ... that was what I was informed.
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    Copied from the SJKC Lick Hung school thread:

    IMHO - VERY GOOD BAHASA MALAYSIA SISTEM BAHASA BOOK

    Just now during lunch at Choy Kee, a mother and I discussed about the level of Bahasa Melayu getting tougher and tougher in Lick Hung and that sometimes, I am also at my wits end trying to figure out some of the do and don't rules esp for Imbuhans.

    She showed me a BM SISTEM BAHASA reference book that she used for her daughters. I had the chance to look through it and for the few sections that I was checking, it was like having MY OWN PERSONAL BM TEACHER !!!

    I asked where she bought the book, and it was again at CASAMAC. I went over to the bookshop but was told that the book was sold out and the lady boss said her new orders should be in by this Friday (29/7). I already reserved my copy

    Title: TEMAN PELAJAR CEMERLANG SISTEM BAHASA
    Publisher: Cemerlang Publications Sdn Bhd
    Author: Haji Razali Yahya
    Price: RM11.90
    ISBN: 978-967-352-185-2
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    Copied from SJKC Lick Hung school thread:

    Good Bahasa Malaysia Kamus

    After searching around for a few weeks, I have finally found a decent and useful BM dictionary suitable for the kids (and not the "useless" Kamus Gambar/ Picture Dictionary ).

    It is the OXFORD KAMUS BAHASA MELAYU KBSR (SK version) http://www.oxfordfajar.com.my/stagin...&whichCountry=

    Much easier for the kids to use compared to Kamus Dewan which is a real nightmare and off-putting even though it is supposed to be THE ULTIMATE BM REFERENCE by DBP !! )
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    the one i have is Kamus Fajar KBSR Bahasa Malaysia-Bahasa Malaysia-Bahasa Inggeris. is that the same?

    just taught my gal how to use it. she got so excited

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    Quote Originally Posted by sydneymak
    the one i have is Kamus Fajar KBSR Bahasa Malaysia-Bahasa Malaysia-Bahasa Inggeris. is that the same?

    just taught my gal how to use it. she got so excited
    That will be just as good - the one I was refering to is pure BM The main point is to get them to learn how to use a dictionary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by currymee
    Copied from SJKC Lick Hung school thread:

    Good Bahasa Malaysia Kamus

    It is the OXFORD KAMUS BAHASA MELAYU KBSR (SK version)
    CM, where did you buy this KAMUS?

    I can't find it from Popular because their staff told me I can't find it from every Popular bookshop.

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