Budiman
Hybrid seem like a good option especially now with tax exemption.
The only drawback is the cost to replace the battery when time comes.... If it needs to be replaced after warranty period ends, it'll be 5 figure to have it replaced. So whatever savings would have been offset.
Budiman
you are right..............i went to test drive a hybrid. warranty for the cell is 5 years or 140,000km while for the electric motor is 100,000km. the cost of the cell is rm13k, not too sure how much the motor is though. so this works out to be rm0.09/km assuming the cost of the cell remains and breaks down at 140,000km. on top of that, the test drive car shows a FC of 14.5km/l which translates to roughly rm0.13/km based on ron95. so in total, you pay rm0.22/kmso after the test drive, i struggle to find any justification that it is more environmentally friendly or fuel savings coz this FC can be achieved by some of the small cars in the market. unless of course, one sells the car before the cell goes kaput. not too sure about the other supposedly "older" hybrid car. will go test drive and see.
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Budiman
At current prices the hybrid cars do not make sense to me. If I can afford or willing to pay more than $100K for a car, I will not care less if my car's FC is 20 or 25 cents per km (10-13lit/100km)
Budiman
Hybrid are for us to SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT and reduce carbon footprint - it is not about saving you $$$$$$
Budiman
In that case, I am all for hybrid cars!! But it takes 2 to clap and I only see the consumers doing the clapping. What about the auto industry? They can reciprocate by making the cars much cheaper. And the government too. Reduce taxes to 0% including the spare parts. At the end of the day, everybody is after the consumers' pocket only. There is not much sincerity.Originally Posted by cupofcoffee
Hybrid are for us to SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT and reduce carbon footprint - it is not about saving you $$$$$$
Btw, I will prefer electric cars over hybrid cars. Initial tests have been positive. The motorcycle industry has been very progressive than the car industry in using electric vehicle. When I was in Kunming, China, it was so pleasant not to hear motorcycle noises. Thousands of electric motorbikes roam the city.
Budiman
Like what cupofcoffee said - hybrid cars are not for saving money but saving the environment and Earth.you are right..............i went to test drive a hybrid. warranty for the cell is 5 years or 140,000km while for the electric motor is 100,000km. the cost of the cell is rm13k, not too sure how much the motor is though. so this works out to be rm0.09/km assuming the cost of the cell remains and breaks down at 140,000km. on top of that, the test drive car shows a FC of 14.5km/l which translates to roughly rm0.13/km based on ron95. so in total, you pay rm0.22/km
The fuel cells and batteries can be FULLY RECYCLED - hence you save The environment and use little fossil fuel / petrol and reduce carbon footprint.
Problem is in Malaysia, the car makers only promote the FUEL SAVING part - hence, when you do the detailed maths, does not make cents (sense)
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Budiman
anyway its almost too early as taxation is on the HIGH side and
profiteering always cost in to consumer as early privilege user..
will stick with carbon fuel till this technology is as common as flat tv
Budiman
true true that hybrids are meant more to reduce the carbon footprint. but for this particular model, 14.5km/l as indicated on its meter doesn't really help
anyway, we can contribute to reducing the carbon footprint and at the same time save ourselves some money by reducing the idling time such as waiting in the car, with the aircon blasting, to pick up the kids or waiting for OH; go easier on the right foot; stop doing 100m sprints at the lights etc, and the best part is all these come at no extra costs and we don't enrich certain quarters through ridiculous APs
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Budiman
Anyone has any idea how the new Kia Forte 2.0 performed? I was surprised to see that the OTR price is about RM94k and it comes with 5 airbags plus all high tech features like push button to start and reverse camera on the mirror itself!
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Budiman
Forte is definitely on of the best value for money compared to toyota/honda of its range.
Check in Lowyat forum, there are many users and a thread dedicated there.
Budiman
my colleague has the 2.0 Forte. his is the 4 speed auto. not too sure if you are referring to the newer 6 speed model. we went to JB in his car recently. he was flying all the way and it's quite a powerful car. gear changes is smooth, sound insulation is good and build quality is nothing to complaint about at that price. only thing is with the standard 17" 45 series rims, the ride was very bumpy.
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Budiman
Yes. I am referring to the new 6 speed Forte. Wonder how is the fuel consumption. Is the car noisy when you travelled on the highway? I mean how is the sound proof ?
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Budiman
The car was doing on average 30 to 60 kph over
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Budiman
Average 30 - 60 km/hr, FC around 8.5/100km? High isn't it? At a speed of 60km/hr most cars will have good sound dampening.
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Budiman
Thats good fuel consumption level, at 11.7km/L The optimum FC is reached when you are driving from 90-100km/h in a highway drive.
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