When petrol price is not high no ones thinks of NGV. By right should install now, don't wait till petrol price skyrocketed then pasang, it'll be expensive then.
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When petrol price is not high no ones thinks of NGV. By right should install now, don't wait till petrol price skyrocketed then pasang, it'll be expensive then.
If not me, who? If not now, when?
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Can someone give the price of installation? And is it true that only Petronas station has NGV?
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some time ago, some taxi drivers using sentra (n16 FL) told me it costs them 5k. naza quoted me 6k for citra. only petronas/gas malaysia has the licence to sell natural gas in any form.
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Wow, how long will it take to recover this expense? If I am not a heavy user, it is pointless. Moreover, the average Joe changes his car every 5 years so it might not be long enough to justify it.Originally Posted by mick123
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they mentioned they can do an average 100km on rm8-rm9 of NG.
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With current petrol price at RM1.90(RON95), assuming your car consume 12km/litreRM1.90=RM0.158/km. For NGV 100km/RM9=11km/RM1(acc to Mick)RM0.09/km, your savings maybe RM0.068/km. Say you spend RM300/mth. Maybe you have a savings of RM20+? Something like that? Not so worth it if you ask me unless our RON95 is RM2.70(as in 2008) then should be worthwhile.
If not me, who? If not now, when?
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Yeap or that you do very high mileage like the taxis then it is worth considering. also not forgetting you will still need petrol as NG is still not that widely available and will be a problem when you go long distance.
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No lah. If you are currently spending $0.15 per km and the NGV is $0.06 per km, you are saving 60% lah. That means, from the $300.00 your new bill will be $120 only which means you save $180 every month.
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From what I can see about the discussion on NGV, there is ONE FLAW - no-one has factored in the possible RISING COST of NGV in tandem - only rising cost of petrol ....
My cylinder of cooking gas has gone up .... so logic says NGV should also go up ...
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Inevitably, yes, but it will still be substantially cheaper than petrol. The negative factors are the costs of installation, the insufficient refilling stations and the space it takes in the boot. The first 2 factors indicate to me that the government is not serious about providing cheap NGV to the public. As usual it is all talk for cheap publicity. If they really wanted to, they can remove the tax on the kit, ask the manufacturers to provide NGV-fitted cars as options, and allow all petrol stations to sell NGV. There will be an instant explosion of NGV-fitted cars on the road. But no sir, they will then complain that the subsidy is getting too high. The truth of the matter is, they are not willing for many people to use this highly subsidised NGV gas.
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Been using NG for the past 3 years and it is still running.
Cost of installation. Rm6300. Recovered in 11months as i travel 160km-200km a day. Rm0.07/km compared to rm0.20/km for my waja.most petronas in Klang valley and southern provides refilling. Not seeing any after rawang and up north.
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NGV is cheap because it is highly subsidized. The most efficient internal combustion engine is a modern common-rail turbo-diesel. But these engines run well only on Euro 4 Diesel. We are not even at Euro 2 yet.
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NGV doesn't provide the cooling the normal fuel does when it's injected into the combustion chamber.... Injected fuel, whether petrol or diesel, is still in liquid form when it entered the combustion chamber and when it made contact with the hot piston crown will have cooling effect, unlike NGV, which is gaseous when it entered the combustion chamber...
So a NGV engine tends to runs hotter and drier.. There are engines running NGV ended up with damaged piston crowns when the engine is opened up for overhaul....
And yes, the most efficient engine currently is the turbo diesel engines.. And also most Euro manufacturers like BMW, VW, Audi are going to the turbocharging route as it is more efficient compared to normally aspirated engines.
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anybody looking at hybrid for better FC?
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