to Councillor Arrifin bin Osman

[chuinkee]

Hi,

I read the post about your view on the color of MPSJ logo. I have something to say about it:

1. can u like spend more time on giving constructive advise to MPSJ and not something personal like this?

2. what's wrong with green?

3. don't bring this kind of politic crap to MPSJ. btw, the traffic situation sure can use some good advise.

4. if u dun want to wear the logo patch, fine. we on the other hand, love the logo. Green is a nice color with that logo

5. are u a SJ/USJ resident? if yes, did u complain about the logo when it was first used? if not, please find other place to work.

Thank you

Ben-G

[jeffooi]

MPSJ Councillor Arrifin bin Osman
No. 5-181, Jalan 3/6,
43300 Seri Kembangan, Selangor D.Ehsan
Telephone: 03-5757 1252 (Office) 03-8948 7644 (Residence)
Mobilephone: 019-2171 103

[jeffooi]

Response from MPSJ ratepayers
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From: AC Hussin
To: edteam@usj.com.my
Cc:
Subject: Re: MPSJ must change logo as it has PAS colour
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 08:44:23 +0800

There is always a solution to a problem. Do not create another
problem to a problem. We change Arrifin. To change Arrifin we
need to change those whoe fears green ie. umno. That can be
done in the coming general election. That should be the mission
of all taxpayers country wide. It is sickening to have sick people
what more holding office around you.

People who fear colours are sick realy sick. From head to toe. Just
to think out loud.


From: "m.z. hussain"
To: edteam@usj.com.my
Cc:
Subject: usj logo
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:39:20 +0800

saya dapati tahap pemikiran banyak penyokong umno masih
kebudak-budakan termasuklah yang serekor ni. macam tak ada
benda lain yang lebih berfaedah untuk dibangkitkan. bodoh
macam lembu!

[xweird]

We might as well abolish the colour green from our country... no green proton cars, no green plants, no green clothing, no green anything. in fact, anyone caught with the slightest green object will be subject to fine under the scrutiny of our mpsj counciller

[JoeJaffar]

more greens to go:
1) green traffic lights
2) green grass and trees
3) petronas and bp stations
4) the dome
5) masjid darul ehsan's dome
6) green shirts
7) green underwears

it's so nice to know that some people think that ratepayers' money are to be used for personal agendas..

[joker2107]

come u fellas, don't just look at the negative side of things and run people down. times are bad, nothing much to do, nothing much moving. someone somewhere's got to get a ball rolling. let it be. look at the good side, the business opportunities. listen to the ringing of the cash register.

please don't copy me. please don't steal my idea. i running off to set up a hardware shop. i'll sell paint - only blue paint. more precisely, only the blue of umno. petronas will be my first and biggest customer. then i'm going to sell blue glass lenses which fit traffic lights. i'll get a contract to replace all the green lights to blue. towards november, i'll have a warehouse full of white x'mas trees - they'll surely sell like hot cakes as people rush to replace their illegalised traditional green x'mas trees - no one will complain cos white x'mas trees will add more meaning to the song i'm dreaming of a white christmas. a dream come true? sure will be for me. cannot reveal my other plans cos some one out there will surely try to run me out of biz - u just can't trust anyone nowadays.

like i begged, please don't steal my ideas. intellectual property u know. copyrighted. but if u want partnership, just offer me capital for initial cash flow. i don't really trust their 30 days term (esp for the traffic lights deal). when u call me, just quote the password - read btw the lines.

[chookyan]

To our Dear Councillor,

For your information, the background of the badge of Sek. Keb. Dato' Onn Jaafar at Kompleks Sekolah Wawasan is also in GREEN. If this colour is not acceptable then our Dear Councillor should sponsor a new badge instead !!!!

[in]

Please excuse my ignorance about these things..... but who exactly elects/appoints these people? If its us, then we know what to do during the next election.

When I first read the article, I just burst our laughing. How can people be so dumb, and they are suppose to be leaders ...? Its a scary thought isn't it?

[kwchang]

Dear joker2107,

Where is the BLUE in UMNO? I thought that was for Keadilan? My meagre political knowledge says UMNO colours are RED and WHITE, no blue. Or were you thinking Red-White-and-Blue of the USA flag? I guess you got it right for WHITE Christmas trees. And for the traffic lights, you will need WHITE as well, not blue.

Ever wondered why the USJ dot com pages have a WHITE background? ...well, so do the pages of Malaysiakini, CNN, TIME, and a lot more

Shell has Selangor colors (or was it the other way around?). Would be interesting to see Petronas and BP change their corporate colours!

My "garden" at home has NO GRASS, it is all tiled up in an off-white surface - because I'm not political?

Would be fantastic to see the rainbows minus one colour whenever it drizzles in Malaysia!

[joker2107]

oops. chang is very right. the blue belongs to bn not umno. i'm not blaming age for the blunder. could be something to do with overdose of cny celebrations.

can't use umno colour cos traffic lights already has red. would be interesting tho to see when red means stop and red also means go.

if the rainbow had one colour less, it might look like ur garden without grass. was it ur foresight chang?

[jeffooi]

Hearing of demands like that from our appointed councillors, what shall/can we do?

They draw RM750 allowance per month.
RM750 x 12 = RM9,000 per year.

The get RM50 per meeting.
RM50 x 12 = RM600 per year, let's say.

Ratepayers' burden per Councillor:
RM9,600 per year.

There are 24 of them, total
RM9,600 x 24 = RM230,400 per year.


Wait a minute, computer literate or otherwise, they get a Fujitsu Lifebook notebook per 2-year term.

Assuming the notebook PC cost RM9,000 per unit (the last batch was around this price), so how much?

RM9,000 x 24 = RM216,000 per 2-year term, even it out, equals RM108,000 per year.

RM230,400 allowance + RM108,000 = RM338,400 per year... you money.


Wait a minute... trips for lawat sambil belajar...
Wait for the next story on USJ.com.my


Meanwhile, we can't do nothing with folks like Arrifin Osman, right?

[Roy883]

It's pathetic..... the green siginifies 'environmental' care. it has NOTHING to do with politics!!!!!

I can't believe that someone will have such a parochial view on such a contemporary logo like MPSJ's. I think it looks really great the way it is.

What next?? Ban green coloured logos throughout the country?

What's worse is that if PAS changes their colour to BLUE next year and our local council will have to start tearing down their signages to replace new ones that won't have blue on them (with tax-payers money).

Brilliant leaders!!!!

[U_four]

it's so sad to have people who only looking for cheap publicity ... I'm not surprise that this kind of people exist as there are many of them ,, thinking that they are immune and believe they can do what they want.. remember at one time petronas station have to spend milllions to change the color of logo .. just b'cos it resembles an opposition logo .. very sad ooo ..

[jeffooi]

MALAYSIAKINI.COM
1:37pm Sun Feb 9th, 2003

Umno councillor dreads green colour, wants MPSJ logo replaced
Yusof Ghani

An Umno division leader who was appointed a councillor of the Subang Jaya Municipal Council (MPSJ) last July has insisted that the council changes its logo because the colours - green and white - which he associated with an opposition party are too prominent in it.

Arrifin Osman, the Seri Kembangan Umno branch secretary, said the green and white colours in the MPSJ logo were too glaring and he was embarassed to wear the council's tag o_n his shirt.

"As an Umno member, too much green touches my sensitivity," he conceded when contacted by malaysiakini.

Arrifin's call to MPSJ to change its logo was reported in the Subang Jaya community website and The Sun. He brought up the matter at a recent full board council meeting and suggested that all MPSJ logos be removed immediately.

Despite being told by the council's deputy president Arpah Abdul Razak that having a new logo would unnecessarily cost ratepayers some RM500,000, Ariffin insisted that was not an issue and "the change is a must".

Changed two years ago

Ariffin, a political appointee in the council, was also told that MPSJ had o_nly changed its logo two years ago.

"We have spent much more money than that for other purposes before, and why not for a better logo," he argued.

Alternatively, he insisted that the council uses plastic paint to cover those logos which were displayed in public areas so as to save costs.

"Or perhaps, the MPSJ can just revert to the previous logo, where the green and white are not too dominant," he said.

Ariffin said he was not demanding that the colours be changed to red and white (Umno's colours), "but any colour will suffice to replace the prominent green".

The Umno politician said he was embarrassed when people made fun of the logo and saying that MPSJ staff are supporting PAS.

"PAS thinks that green is more Islamic and that's why the party picks the colour (for its flag).

"This is not true... I don't think even Prophet Muhammad himself wore green everyday," added Ariffin.

Commitment to the environment

The MPSJ website, however, indicates that the green in its logo is to signify the council's commitment to preserve the environment.

"As a whole, the logo reflects MPSJ as a committed and progressive local government," the website explains.

In 1999, Kelantan Umno maverick leader Ibrahim Ali complained that the logo of Petronas, Malaysia's premier oil and gas multinational, was similar to that of PAS.

His point was taken seriously, resulting in the company having to spend over RM50 million just to change the logo.


SOURCE:
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/200302090019127.php

[chuinkee]

Arrifin Osman,

I feel shameful to have you as a councillor to the most advance township in Selangor. Please step down.

Benjamin Ho