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    Petronas "Telco Tower" in USJ 6 - they think we are fools

    This evening around 5.30pm I got a tip off from one of the USJ 6 residents about the existence of a 100 feet mega tower in the Petronas Station. Being curious, I went on site to look at the mega tower. To my surprise, there was none except a 100 feet unipole holding a Petronas logo at the USJ 6 Petronas Station. I took a couple of snapshots of what gets some residents so excited about. I guess somebody inside the station was also watching me closely. It is OK as I was not doing anything illegal.



    After a couple of snap shots, I went to the small structure below the unipole and some kind of a sub station at the foot of the unipole. From what I know about advertising unipole, it would not require such a elaborate structure to supply electricity to light up the board. I also noticed a permit to work card attached to it and upon closer examination, I decided to take a photo copy of it as I was beginning to feel uncomfortable that someone is going to chase me away as I was too close and nosy for her comfort.



    I downloaded the photo and started to magnify the photo many times in order to read its contents and bingo, I saw a phrase 'Stealth Solutions." So I googled the words and this is what I found out from the Google search engine which pointed me to a company of the name name - Stealth Solutions Sdn Bhd. I visited its website and this is what I found.



    http://www.stealthsolutions.com.my/default.htm

    Stealth Solutions is a telecommunication infrastructure provider specialising in camouflage and aesthetic telecommunication towers for local telecommunication industry incorporated on 24th May 2004.

    Stealth Solutions has been granted a Network Facilities Provider Licence (NFP) by Malaysian Communication and Muiltimedia Commission (MCMC) on 4th August 2009 – to own or provide any network facilities for a period of 10 years until 3rd August 2018.

    Our focus is to provide excellent solutions and services to clients in terms of acquiring vacant land, constructing and leasing environmentally friendly dual function aesthetic structures for wireless telecommunications and other use in line with our mission to be an industry leader to telecommunication companies towards realising the government’s vision of achieving world class telecomunications service for the Nation.
    So this is a TELCO Tower under the camouflage of your friendly PETRONAS logo. And as what it is meant to be, it should be concealing all telecommunication devices and equipment from our naked eyes. Unfortunately it didn't escape the sharp eyes of my lady informant. You know, women have a eye for details and it didn't escape from hers.

    According to their Stealth Solutions website, it says here:

    a) Emphasing on public safety by erecting according to the standards and guidelines imposed by Local Authority. In addition, our structures are insured from all risks.

    b) Approval from Local Council Authorities.



    Accordingly, this structure sitting smack between the Petronas and Shell Petrol Stations should have been sent to MPSJ for planning permission and advice as this is not the usual structure that holds up the Petronas logo. At that location and that station is not a key one, Petronas or for that matter, the owner and operator of the station need not go to that extent as to erect such a huge structure. She did that using Stealth Solutions's method to hook wink the residents there. That tall structure should it collapse either side will land on top of the petrol station and may set off a series of explosion. We will have to write to Petronas Dagangan Safety Division and not forgeting Shell Malaysia to check is they are aware of such a construction and if they do, can they give us an assurance that our safety is not being jeopardised.

    It will be interesting to find out from MPSJ whether the approval has been given. From the document, I did not see any reference to them.

    Their website says that they have erected their structures at 38 sites and I traced them to 2 that were built in my own backyard!! Holy mackerel. They are at

    1) PT 235 Taman Perindustrian UEP, 47620 Subang Jaya

    2) PT 369 Taman Perindustrian UEP, 47620 Subang Jaya

    I google further the 38 locations to see if any objection that is similar to resident's concern and sure enough, there was one which was highlighted by YB Wee Choo Keong when he was still the PKR MP. We also read this in the papers. In his blog http://amkwangsamaju.wordpress.com/page/3/ , this is what is reported there.

    In early April 2009 I received a public complaint from the residents in Wangsa Maju about a certain Telco Tower that was erected in Section 2 Wangsa Maju. I immediately did some investigation into the matter and on or about 10 April 2009 it was confirmed that the said Telco Tower was erected without any Planning Permission from Jabatan Perancang DBKL.

    On 10 April 2009 I immediately lodged a formal letter of complaint to Jabatan Perancang Bandar and on 17 April 2009 I received a letter from Tuan Hj Mahadi Che Ngah, the Pengarah of Jabatan Perancang Bandar confirming that the Telco Tower was indeed an illegal structure built without Planning Permission and a notice for it to be demolished was issued. I chose not to highlight this matter because positive actions had been taken and due notice had been issued and pasted on the said Telco Tower.

    Thank you.

    Wee Choo Keong


    Update, 29 April 2009:
    This morning at about 10:30 a.m. officers from Jabatan Perancang Bandar came with tractor and lorries to demolish the telco tower. I am informed that the top part of the tower consisting of iron structures was dismantled last night by the company which constructed it. The dismantling job was carried out in the middle of the night until 5:30 am this morning. I am now informed that the company that built this illegal structure is STEALTH SOLUTIONS SDN BHD with its office in Damansara Heights. I have written to Jabatan Perancang to enquire about the cost of the demolition and who will be paying for it. I am also asking Jabatan Perancang to clarify: why its “Flying Squad” was not aware of such illegal construction on government land?

    Note: In future, before approving the location and construction of such telco towers, it’s crucial that DBKL must ensure that the health of the public is safeguarded. It would also be interesting to know if there are any more telco towers that had been constructed illegally and are still in operation.

    Here ends my investigation. All residents in USJ 6 especially those living around the Petronas Station, please be very aware of what is going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcyeoh
    This evening around 5.30pm ...........
    +1
    way to go Mr. Holmes. Watson, the games afoot!

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    great job pcyeoh!

    thank you

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    Anyone ever gave a thought on what unknown rays are emitted via these towers? I have always had reservations about any of these telecommunication towers. Even the mini ones that have sprouted above the many shoplots in Subang Jaya.

    They are just above our heads when you eat in these restaurants in the shoplots.

    I have brought it up to MPSJ when I found out some illegal ones erected on the shoplots near my place, but they simply when ahead and legalised it.

    Apparently, there is no other place where they can erect it and it is "safe" by their standards.

    All this is coming from a human body which has its own imperfect senses. Wasn't it just about 500 years ago that man discovered that the earth was not flat!!! Yet our scriptures tells us about the different planetary systems since time immemorial.

    I remember reading how a resident in Tmn Subang, Dr Adlina swore her child had Herpes Zoster virus due to this.

    Anyway, these telco towers should really be placed away from residential houses at least at a stipulated distance. Currently they are just too close for comfort.

    What about erecting them along the light poles on the main road instead of the shop lots?
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    These telcos are getting more and more creative. From a friend in the industry, most towers are illegal (in the sense that no proper approval have been sought). They even tried to erect one in the elite are of Jalan Bangkung in Bangsar. The residents there dragged the Deputy Director of DBKL to show him the tower under construction and he confirmed that no approval has been given. The tower was promptly demolished.

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    I have a puzzling situation/question - we all demand 5 bars/stars quality wireless service and connectivity at all times and locations BUT we do not agree for the telco to erect wireless transmission towers - so how?

    I am not condoning any illegal or badly designed and dangerous structures, I am just wondering how we can reconcile our two demands?
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    could it be a communication tower for Petronas use to communicate with their HQ i.e requesting for stocks ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by currymee
    I have a puzzling situation/question - we all demand 5 bars/stars quality wireless service and connectivity at all times and locations BUT we do not agree for the telco to erect wireless transmission towers - so how?

    I am not condoning any illegal or badly designed and dangerous structures, I am just wondering how we can reconcile our two demands?
    Place them at places not too near our houses la.... like I said near the lamp posts on the main road.
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    A simple 9.6kb dial up is sufficient even for credit card transaction. I don't see why Petronas needs to go to such an extend to to erect such huge infrastructure to meet its communication need. Shell just need to install a satellite dish on its station's roof top for its communication needs. Among Shell, Petronas, Esso and Mobil, I rate Shell as being very serious about safety.

    This is just a blatant way of hook winking the residents who are actually their customers! I am not so concern about radiation and radio wave that will shorten my life by 5 minutes. What I can't take it is that there are people who wants to take the government or the people and in this case both for a ride. I don't think Petronas, a multi billion oil company needs those petty cash from the Telco company to stoop so low as to compromise the safety aspect. It is the USJ 6 Petronas station that is not practicing CSR. If it wants to do it, please comply with the local regulations. Just don't be snaky.

    Quote Originally Posted by currymee
    I have a puzzling situation/question - we all demand 5 bars/stars quality wireless service and connectivity at all times and locations BUT we do not agree for the telco to erect wireless transmission towers - so how?

    I am not condoning any illegal or badly designed and dangerous structures, I am just wondering how we can reconcile our two demands?
    We don't have weak signals here in the vicinity and that is why we are wondering why put up another tower smack in our midst. May be it is for its expansion and do you want it to be done at your expense? May be there are other ways of doing it but as Telco, they just want to incur minimum cost and maximise their profits. What we want MPSJ to do is to clarify why there is a need to erect such a structure there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcyeoh
    ...We don't have weak signals here in the vicinity and that is why we are wondering why put up another tower...
    It would be interesting to find out who actually is the user of the transmitters

    Do take note that if it is not the mobilephone networks, then think about the other data services that are having low bandwidth capacities ... P1 and Maxis comes to mind. Then there is also YTL coming on with their faster WiMax solution. Anyone of them could be responsible ...

    But let us not assume, let's wait for the results of the investigation

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    Just for a counterview to balance the equation and to ask you flers to stop and think a bit. I know currymee actually did think instead of react like all of you are doing...
    Quote Originally Posted by currymee
    ...we all demand 5 bars/stars quality wireless service and connectivity at all times and locations BUT we do not agree for the telco to erect wireless transmission towers - so how?...
    My sentiments too. Basically we want all these new technology but the usual "not in my backyard" mentality comes forth to protest.

    If for example, an Internet provider was putting up a WiMax network that is 5X faster and better than P1 or Maxis or DiGi or Celcom, will you be interested? If you want it taken down, then don't complain about wired Streamyx.

    Furthermore, if you are worried about microwave and radiowave frying our brains, then why do some of us put up wireless LAN in our homes and probably in our bedrooms as well. Aren't we perpetuating the "wave" problem (if there is one)? Do you know some of you actually sit next to the wireless router in your homes? Isn't that any different from the Telco towers?

    Even if it is a mobilephone network, why do we put our phones to our heads when calling? Blackberries are known for their high transmission frequencies but some of us use Blackberries everyday (I don't have one). FYI, I only use my mobile phone with an earphone/mike cable - those who know me, I look like a wired nerd with all the wires dangling off my neck.

    Of course, like PCYeoh was getting at, perhaps all we want are transparency. Don't la, play hide and seek.

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    pcyeoh (of usj1 to 21 and some say esp usj12) got the initial investigations on...now that its confirmed to be a transmitter/relay tower, the usj6 residents living there then GO FIND out from the Zone? Councillor in charge lah.

    else, semu cakap spekulasi only. Then better shaddup

    Yang Bisingbising diss17&19 only latotupai


    p.s unless of course Chief Investigator PC also wanna continue to poke here &there...esp usj6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tupai
    pcyeoh (of usj1 to 21 and some say esp usj12) got the initial investigations on...now that its confirmed to be a transmitter/relay tower, the usj6 residents living there then GO FIND out from the Zone? Councillor in charge lah.

    else, semu cakap spekulasi only. Then better shaddup

    Yang Bisingbising diss17&19 only latotupai


    p.s unless of course Chief Investigator PC also wanna continue to poke here &there...esp usj6.
    You mean he always cocok sini and sana meh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jan tomaswaki
    You mean he always cocok sini and sana meh?
    only in +V way o'life. I know PC and i know he handles anything from unkempt playground to keeping lost pup to spotting illegal outta norm stuff.
    PC is like a beat polis. He is omnipresent with eyes on the beat more than many of the current appointed councillors & mpsj officers.

    Yang Berkawan PC latotupai

    p/s NIMBY is atypical lah. This wont be as bad as the new nuclear plant behind yr house isnt it? Imagine a nuclear plant to be built in ss17 or 19??? AHHHHHHHHHH!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tupai
    pcyeoh (of usj1 to 21 and some say esp usj12) got the initial investigations on...now that its confirmed to be a transmitter/relay tower, the usj6 residents living there then GO FIND out from the Zone? Councillor in charge lah.

    else, semu cakap spekulasi only. Then better shaddup

    Yang Bisingbising diss17&19 only latotupai


    p.s unless of course Chief Investigator PC also wanna continue to poke here &there...esp usj6.
    I have checked with the Pengarah Jab Bangunan (who deals with these stuff), this application is in accordance with the guidelines (distance from nearest house, height, etc), the applicant has submitted all the documentation as required for approval.

    This is not an easy issue to deal with. No one wants the tower near their house, but everyone wants 5 bar on their handphone, clear reception, fast 3G data downloads.
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