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  1. #31
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    You are right, the guards can't be 100% trusted!!!

    I saw a guard peeping into houses and bathroom windows...they do it because they feel secure, nobody will check them..right?

    We understand, as an ADUN she is busy but she has to coordinate these projects. Should you really need do it properly, block the main enterance to your taman, thats ok. Don't block every single lane, its ridiculous.

    I've told the people who have set up security not to stop me , they can take down my number and details once, thats fine, but they need not stop me each time i pass thru.

    Should I be subjected to do so, I will probably park my car in the middle of the road and demand to see them! So far so good, so no issue yet!

  2. #32
    SonOfSoil is offline Banana - 15July10 - argueing
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    Quote Originally Posted by chsum
    err...beh tahan aledi,

    ksj ah, can't u see this is a no win situation for our cute adun, do die, no do also die, how? play dead loh. don't understand? put ur self in her shoes.

    SCCheah, let's say u win, all fng, gng r banned, all barrier taken down,
    what would u do when every few days u hear neighbours hse get robbed?
    what would u do when every few days a neighbour get samun walking outside?
    what would u do when the neighbourhood watch night patrol u set up failed?
    what would u do when all complaints to Police, Adun, MP came back nato?
    what would u do when daytime patrol did not stop most crime?
    what would u do when guards u hire to patrol ur neighbourhood did not stop crime?
    I will tell you what happen when u can't find an answer to all above questions, sj will be labeled crime city, price of houses go down, those can afford to move will move, more n more empty houses, business will move out, police will think twice b4 coming to sj, familiar? u r a well traveled man, USA, the land of free ave plenty of those neighbourhood n don't tell me it wont happen here.

    my 2 sens
    I concur. This is a nation-wide problem, but certain people are making it seem to be like it's specific to Subang Jaya. You see the same GnG schemes all over PJ, Puchong, KL, Penang, Johor Baru and many other urban areas in this country. And I'm referring to the ones put up by resident groups in the "open township" areas.

    If it's a national problem, you can't expect our MPSJ councillors or even our ADUN or MP alone to solve. Such macro-level problem indicates a flaw in the national legislation. That's the root cause. If we don't fix that, we will forever be reacting in an ad-hoc manner to this issue everywhere.

    I actually find it very strange that some people are complaining as though this is a new phenomenon. Go to USJ 16, 17, 20+, almost all are employing its own GnG scheme, and these schemes have been in place for many years now, started during BN's time. And mind you, those parts of USJ are in DUN Kinrara, not Subang Jaya. Go to PJ, same thing. Let's focus our energy on root cause and not on personalities just because they're accessible.

  3. #33
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    hey everybody i'm getting sick of all those funny excuses to implement FnG later GnG then BnG (brickwall and guard) BnBnG (brickwall,barbwire and goard)and last resort BnBnGnG (brickwall,barbwire,guard and gun)Ask yourself a question-Has USJ/SJ ever happen trigger happy ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfSoil
    I concur. This is a nation-wide problem, but certain people are making it seem to be like it's specific to Subang Jaya. You see the same GnG schemes all over PJ, Puchong, KL, Penang, Johor Baru and many other urban areas in this country. And I'm referring to the ones put up by resident groups in the "open township" areas.

    If it's a national problem, you can't expect our MPSJ councillors or even our ADUN or MP alone to solve. Such macro-level problem indicates a flaw in the national legislation. That's the root cause. If we don't fix that, we will forever be reacting in an ad-hoc manner to this issue everywhere.

    I actually find it very strange that some people are complaining as though this is a new phenomenon. Go to USJ 16, 17, 20+, almost all are employing its own GnG scheme, and these schemes have been in place for many years now, started during BN's time. And mind you, those parts of USJ are in DUN Kinrara, not Subang Jaya. Go to PJ, same thing. Let's focus our energy on root cause and not on personalities just because they're accessible.
    Who is that someone?

    Of course it goes without saying that it's a nation-wide problem. However, it seems that this FnGs suddenly exploded soon after the last GE and people can see that certain political parties and politicians seem to be supporting this illegal matter.

    There is also a tendency to challenge people like me like what would happen if FnGs are dismantled. What would I do if people are robbed every day and houses are burgled every day. Hey, crimes are happening everyday inside and outside FnGs etc.

    I have already given USJ 11 as an example - that despite all their fortified efforts, burglaries still happen. So stop finding excuses.

    With or without FnGs crimes will happen if the police do not do their job. The government must control and reduce the number of foreigners in Malaysia. Although not all crimes are committed by foreign workers like Indonesians etc, their rising numbers have resulted in a host of social ills and problems.

    Let me just give you another simple example. When I told the police at Bukit Sentosa that my office unit has been vandalised (I bought a nearly 800 sq ft auctioned office unit for only RM10,000), guess what the police woman told me?

    Go and get a guard.

    This is the kind of lackadaisical attitude that has emboldened criminals. Block after block of offices in Jalan Seroja were vandalised wave after wave. They took away the aluminium window frames, pulled out all the wires/cables and finally even carted off with the metal staircase railings. Of course it is happening everywhere - even at USJ playgrounds.

    I am not and have never said the BN government is blameless - I was discussing our very own issue in USJ and what our ADUN and councillors have or have not done.

    Ultimately it is back to the police to do their job. You try to do it yourself by having your own private guards in an open concept township is fraught with problems and this is made worse when certain RAs and individuals continue to deride fellow neighbours who choose not to participate.

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