Tell it to MPSJ Councillor Rajiv - traffic problems

[ivanhow]

Hi Ivan,

I guess we agree on the problem description. And theoretically, you are on the right track is coming out with the solution. I know having a connecting will definitely help with the traffic on Kewajipan/Tujuan.

If you have an idea that can actually be one, without bulldozing thru houses, do let me know, I'll be happy to consider it.

This, I hope will be one of the priorities for MPSJ this year, and perhaps one of your goals as well during your term in MPSJ If it isn't in the priorities of MPSJ, then, can you do something? It would be difficult for the residents to give you a 'solution'. If there is one, it would have been done long ago. You will need to work with residents to formulate the 'solution', and to obtain feedback and inputs for you to forward it to MPSJ. You can also form a sub-committee to help you strategise on this. We do not have access to the MPSJ resources as much as you do. So, hope you will make use of them.

[AllUrban]

1. Cars moving from Federal Highway to Putra Heights/Kemuning/Shah Alam shouldn't use Pers Tujuan and Kewajipan. However, to help this case, tolls on LDP and the soon to be completed Kemuning Shah Alam Highway, LKSA should be abolished.

correct me if Im wrong, but the new road signs (blue colour) in Subang Jaya & USJ (along Kewajipan, NPE/Subang Utama and Tujuan) actually show motorists that they can get to USJ and Puchong. There is also one part that is covered up, which may say Shah Alam or Putra Heights.

You can see this sign on the west side of the NPE just before you turn onto Jalan Tujuan.

If another sign is placed on the Subang Airport road or Federal Highway, that means that someone is deliberately encouraging drivers to use Subang Jaya and USJ roads for access to these developments.

Cheers, m

[AllUrban]

This, I hope will be one of the priorities for MPSJ this year, and perhaps one of your goals as well during your term in MPSJ If it isn't in the priorities of MPSJ, then, can you do something? It would be difficult for the residents to give you a 'solution'. If there is one, it would have been done long ago. You will need to work with residents to formulate the 'solution', and to obtain feedback and inputs for you to forward it to MPSJ. You can also form a sub-committee to help you strategise on this. We do not have access to the MPSJ resources as much as you do. So, hope you will make use of them.

I also think that resolving traffic and parking issues in Taipan and SS15 are very, very important and need to be done with this generation of councillors.

Traffic flow in Taipan and SS15 should be reversed to prevent right turns as much as possible and to encourage left turns and leftwards u-turns for both entry and exit.

For the entry to SS15 from NPE (near Maybank) the issue there is that that backup is caused by cars parking & double-parking too close to the entrance, as well as cars coming from the right side and oncoming.

Reversing the flow of the lane leading to the wet market would be helpful...so would more enforcement and redesign of the area to prevent parking & double parking too close to the entrance.

Cheers, m

[rajiv]

correct me if Im wrong, but the new road signs (blue colour) in Subang Jaya & USJ (along Kewajipan, NPE/Subang Utama and Tujuan) actually show motorists that they can get to USJ and Puchong. There is also one part that is covered up, which may say Shah Alam or Putra Heights.

You can see this sign on the west side of the NPE just before you turn onto Jalan Tujuan.

If another sign is placed on the Subang Airport road or Federal Highway, that means that someone is deliberately encouraging drivers to use Subang Jaya and USJ roads for access to these developments.

Cheers, m

I believe (unverified) that those signboards are to lead people to USJ Heights..

[rajiv]

I also think that resolving traffic and parking issues in Taipan and SS15 are very, very important and need to be done with this generation of councillors.

Traffic flow in Taipan and SS15 should be reversed to prevent right turns as much as possible and to encourage left turns and leftwards u-turns for both entry and exit.

For the entry to SS15 from NPE (near Maybank) the issue there is that that backup is caused by cars parking & double-parking too close to the entrance, as well as cars coming from the right side and oncoming.

Reversing the flow of the lane leading to the wet market would be helpful...so would more enforcement and redesign of the area to prevent parking & double parking too close to the entrance.

Cheers, m

I am interested in this idea... Definitely would be exploring it

[ivanhow]

Traffic flow in Taipan and SS15 should be reversed to prevent right turns as much as possible and to encourage left turns and leftwards u-turns for both entry and exit...
Cheers, m

Hi Rajiv,
I tend to agree with M on the right turn at entry (from) and exit (to) main roads. As far as possible this can be done using road barriers (dividers or flexi poles) or 3" high pebbles at the dividing line, embedded or planted into the road surface to guide traffic.

M, cud you sketch the suggested 'flow' at SS15 for us to understand the 'flow'? TQ.

[ivanhow]

I believe (unverified) that those signboards are to lead people to USJ Heights..

Hi Rajiv,
I also tend to agree with you. These sign boards (with the words "USJ/Subang Heights" presently covered are WAITING to be unveiled when they remove the barricades at the USJ3ABCD/Jln Setia Bridge across Kesas Highway into / from Subang/USJ Heights soon.

Already, we are seeing the congestion along Pers. Tujuan right from SS19 (and sometimes from Fed. H/W itself) right into USJ4/USJ5/Sek. Men. (Keb) SS4/Shell (and as far as the Pers. Tujuan/Perpaduan traffic junction near Cassablanca) that MPSJ have decided to block and barricade the divider for traffic turning (right) from the school along USJ4/5 into Pers. Tujuan (south bound) in anticipation of more traffic along Pers. Tujuan before they unveil the signboards.

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May I suggested that MPSJ traffic division do a traffic study in the early morning hours from 7am to 9am to see the traffic pattern, and share the findings with residents of USJ?

[Jeyanthy]

Yes, the USJ18 empty land is allocated for a school, and now its up to the Ministry of Education to get moving building one there.

Dear Rajiv,

A few questions for you:
1. Is the Ministry aware that there is insufficient secondary schools in USJ? Have you informed them of this? Only if the Ministry is aware of a problem can they initiate something.

2. If they are planning for a school, how soon will the project start?

3. There are many children coming from Shah Alam, Putra Heights, Puchong, Desaria. Kota Kemuning to the schools here. Not only are they causing so much traffic here but they are overcrowding the schools here. Perhaps you can enforce these schools to get parents to produce their utility bills to show that they are really staying in the Subang Jaya area before applying for schools here.

4. The classes in some schools are very small since they were designed as smart schools when they were built. Unfortunately, the schools are forced to cram up to 50 children in a class. The Ministry is simply not aware of this and force schools to take in more and more children every year. Please ensure that the Ministry realizes this.

4. There is a great need for secondary schools that offer Mandarin and Tamil in schools during school hours and schools which plays an importance to discipline. There are very few schools that offer this. So more and more parents are sending children to these exclusive schools. Please highlight this to the Ministry and perhaps they can allocated more Mandarin and Tamil teachers to other schools in Subang Jaya. For good discipline, schools should follow the restrictions and rules set by the more popular schools in USJ.

Thank-you

[AllUrban]

Hi Rajiv,
I tend to agree with M on the right turn at entry (from) and exit (to) main roads. As far as possible this can be done using road barriers (dividers or flexi poles) or 3" high pebbles at the dividing line, embedded or planted into the road surface to guide traffic.

M, cud you sketch the suggested 'flow' at SS15 for us to understand the 'flow'? TQ.

I posted it up to the forum about 1.5 years ago...will have to see if I can find it again.

Basically, the principles would be:

Colleges corner
*Jalan SS15/8 (Inti, Taylors) - reverse flow
*Jalan SS15/4D (McDonald's, CIMB, Maybank) - same diection of flow
*Jalan SS15/8A (Strabucks, Pizza Hut, Init College buildings) - reverse direction of flow so it is the same as Jalan SS15/4D
*Jalan SS15/7 from Taylor's College to the Wisma Subang Jaya - maintains 2-way flow
*Jalan SS15/7 from Taylor's College to Sri KL - 2 lanes of 1way flow (towards Sri KL)

Thus:

1. Jalan Subang Utama is used for traveling eastwards and Jalan SS15/8A and Jalan SS15/4D are used for traveling westwards
2. Parents dropping of students at the colleges have 1 entry point (SS15/8)but multiple exit points (SS15/4D, SS15/8A, SS15/7-2ways)

Main Circulating Roads

*Jalan SS15/4 widened (remove the "Subang Jaya walk") and flow is changed from 1-way to 2-ways
*Mini-Roundabout at the interchange of Jalan SS15/4 and Jalan SS15/7
*Jalan SS15/4 and Jalan SS15/5 are linked (even a small 1-lane pathway is ok)
*Mini-roundabout/stop signs/traffic signals at the intersection of Jalan SS15/4 and SS15/5 and SS 15/3B
*Jalan SS15/7 (at the edge of the Hexagon) is linked to Jalan SS15/3B and Jalan SS15/5A
*Traffic calming measures (speed tables, roundabouts, stop signs & rumble strips) along all 'main roads' (SS15/4, SS15/5 and SS15/3B)

Thus: circulation inside SS15 is improved by creating more short loops and controlling the speed of traffic in SS15

[ivanhow]

Rajiv,

What plan is in place to mitigate the effect of traffic influx into USJ from the to-be opened Subang/USJ Heights Bridge?
Please refer to this thread.

If an access road is built to link the industrial zone from the Kesas H/way, this could help avoid traffic using USJ roads. What are your thots on this?

[rajiv]

Rajiv,

What plan is in place to mitigate the effect of traffic influx into USJ from the to-be opened Subang/USJ Heights Bridge?
Please refer to this thread.

If an access road is built to link the industrial zone from the Kesas H/way, this could help avoid traffic using USJ roads. What are your thots on this?

There would be a meeting next monday at mpsj to look into this. If you would like to, please share your suggestions

[ivanhow]

There would be a meeting next monday at mpsj to look into this. If you would like to, please share your suggestions

Hi Rajiv,
As mentioned in the thread,

If an access road is built to link the industrial zone from the Kesas H/way, this could help avoid traffic using USJ roads. What are your thots on this?

This is one part that cud help, another wud be to allow traffic from Subang/USJ Heights to exit to the Kesas H/way whereby there wud be no need to crowd into the internal roads in USJ. Your main challenge wud be to convince the authorities to agree to the proposal, whereby the LLM wud be party who will eventually have to approve. But, pushing this will have to come from various angles - Local authority, state authority, town and country planners. Your initial step will be to convince the local authority (MPSJ) to take it up.

[Jeyanthy]

Hi guys,

Its a little difficult to monitor all threads consistently, so I would like to suggest using this thread to raise issues that you'd like me to attend to. What say you?

Hillary's original post on improving traffic flow in SS19 near Lick Hung.

I watch the jam while i eat my breakfast, sometimes i watch the jam if i have a drink in the afternoon.

What really annoys me is the morons who take shortcuts in the wrong direction (turn left after 99) and those who have to wait outside the school until their kids are out of sight before driving off (after the kids are through the gate).

If the traffic light at 19/6 allowed right turns, and the lane by 99 had its direction reversed for a few hours each day, that would give people a choice of two easy exits from the area, turn left at Shell or right at 99. This way you could have three lanes of cars turning left while the green light is on for right turns.

[Hiliary]

Follow on for Lick Hung traffic:

Or is it best to work out how to get cars into the (school) area slowly and out of the area fast? Like put cones up at the corner before school so cars enter the school area in single file and exit in two directions as i suggested earlier?
One school guard at the cones should be enough, and a large sign thats says "No horn or cutting in, be quiet and patient"

[currymee]

I can vouch for the traffic in SS19 near Lick Hung being a nightmare