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    USJ 2 GnG

    Any comments on the newly launched service?
    I do support and paid for the GnG but my neighbour objected ....

    Any views?
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    what i do not understand is the following:
    - what exactly do i get if i pay?
    - who exactly will be responsible if there is any break in to my house?
    - what is the role of the police in all this?
    - will this means less patrolling by police? (not that i see them that often!!)
    - am i not paying tax now to the government for security? will i be given a tax rebate for paying more since the government is suppose to provide me with this security from the tax i am paying
    - USJ2 is quite porous, as far as 'fencing' and such are concern. how would security be improved?

    By doing this 'privately', are we not paying double for what is supposedly to be provide via our taxes paid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyM
    Any comments on the newly launched service?
    I do support and paid for the GnG but my neighbour objected ....

    Any views?
    Are you the GnG com. member,just because you block the bloody road somewhere near the banglow hse it cause a big jam right up to Zing's Rest.Those blardy kiasu,kiasi,sotong brain,cekai brain.Now ppl cannot turn left back home ,it is your grandfather jalan ! Just because of a few banglow they block the road causing hundreds of cars stuck in the jam after office hrs.Wish one day their love ones in emergency can't reach in time.If i were to stay there i'll make sure every nite i'll knock into those committee hse in the wee hrs of the morning everyday to drive them bonkers! Councilar Rajiv you must do something !No ifs or buts
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    Regardless of being a member or not, I am one of the affected Residents of USJ 2. Depending on which perspectives you are looking, there are bound to be disagreements and unhappiness on all sides.

    However, I am holding on to my personal views, until I and my family members review the whole exercise in 3 months' time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jan tomaswaki
    Are you the GnG com. member,just because you block the bloody road somewhere near the banglow hse it cause a big jam right up to Zing's Rest.Those blardy kiasu,kiasi,sotong brain,cekai brain.Now ppl cannot turn left back home ,it is your grandfather jalan ! Just because of a few banglow they block the road causing hundreds of cars stuck in the jam after office hrs.Wish one day their love ones in emergency can't reach in time.If i were to stay there i'll make sure every nite i'll knock into those committee hse in the wee hrs of the morning everyday to drive them bonkers! ...
    Jan, this is not the way to post your opinion on the Forum. It violates all our rules on netiquette. Seeing that you have done a whole lot of violations in one post (name-calling, flaming, threatening and abusive language), I think you need a good rest at the plantation to cool off.
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    me also affected resident in USj2. its already very jam even not GnG. and recently some roads already changed One Way around petronas and shell station. before that, not many cars jaming road 2/4, now started jam in the morning, even weekend. I heard lots of ppl chating about GnG in USJ2, some uncles said, what is the guard doing there???? He said like doing nothing, and waving hands. He added, pity the guard sit there day and nite. Thats what i heard.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudat
    what i do not understand is the following:
    - what exactly do i get if i pay?
    - who exactly will be responsible if there is any break in to my house?
    - what is the role of the police in all this?
    - will this means less patrolling by police? (not that i see them that often!!)
    - am i not paying tax now to the government for security? will i be given a tax rebate for paying more since the government is suppose to provide me with this security from the tax i am paying
    - USJ2 is quite porous, as far as 'fencing' and such are concern. how would security be improved?

    By doing this 'privately', are we not paying double for what is supposedly to be provide via our taxes paid?
    You are contributing to a fund with the objective of making the neighborhood (USJ2) a safer area. This is done by engaging a professional security company to provide static security guards and patrolling guards. Static guards are to monitor traffic moving into the residential areas and recording all unregistered cars. Patrolling guards are to patrol the residential area periodically, accompany unauthorized vehicles to their intended destination and to response to residence’s call in the event of an emergency.

    At the end of the day it is RM50 per month or RM600 per year; which is probably less then the CMS alarm bill (this is the individual’s alternative).

    Hopefully if we get enough support, you will also get parameter fencing.

    This is not a guarantee that there will not be any more break-ins but it will act as a deterrent or will minimize the occurrence as we hope that the perpetrator go for other ‘softer’ targets.

    Patrol by PDRM??? U must be staying in the ‘rich’ part coz the only time I see a patrol car is when a crime have just been reported. Nope they are not scouting for the culprit but to ‘investigate the premise’. Most of us also pay our taxes but if a burglary still happens can we sue the PDRM or the Government for negligence? Kindly advice me on the procedure as a ‘not so small minority’ in USJ2 will want to claim our grievances. Do you have so much faith in our current system that we feel that the FnG is redundant and that the PDRM is doing a sufficient job?

    We have studied the parameter fencing option (infact I insisted that it should be done 1st) but currently the cost is just too high. Hence we are taking ‘baby steps’ in order to meet the CNY dateline (busy period for burglars).

    Again there is no guarantee that USJ2 will be crime free, it is just another layer of preventive measure (1st layer being yourself)
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    Quote Originally Posted by rakyat
    This is not a guarantee that there will not be any more break-ins but it will act as a deterrent or will minimize the occurrence as we hope that the perpetrator go for other ‘softer’ targets.
    Thanks for the comforting thought!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rakyat
    You are contributing to a fund with the objective of making the neighborhood (USJ2) a safer area. This is done by engaging a professional security company to provide static security guards and patrolling guards. Static guards are to monitor traffic moving into the residential areas and recording all unregistered cars. Patrolling guards are to patrol the residential area periodically, accompany unauthorized vehicles to their intended destination and to response to residence’s call in the event of an emergency.

    At the end of the day it is RM50 per month or RM600 per year; which is probably less then the CMS alarm bill (this is the individual’s alternative).

    Hopefully if we get enough support, you will also get parameter fencing.

    This is not a guarantee that there will not be any more break-ins but it will act as a deterrent or will minimize the occurrence as we hope that the perpetrator go for other ‘softer’ targets.

    Patrol by PDRM??? U must be staying in the ‘rich’ part coz the only time I see a patrol car is when a crime have just been reported. Nope they are not scouting for the culprit but to ‘investigate the premise’. Most of us also pay our taxes but if a burglary still happens can we sue the PDRM or the Government for negligence? Kindly advice me on the procedure as a ‘not so small minority’ in USJ2 will want to claim our grievances. Do you have so much faith in our current system that we feel that the FnG is redundant and that the PDRM is doing a sufficient job?

    We have studied the parameter fencing option (infact I insisted that it should be done 1st) but currently the cost is just too high. Hence we are taking ‘baby steps’ in order to meet the CNY dateline (busy period for burglars).

    Again there is no guarantee that USJ2 will be crime free, it is just another layer of preventive measure (1st layer being yourself)

    Our family really look forward to have a parameter fencing. Besides acting as a deterrent for trespassing, I think the whole area will look neat.............hopefully price increase in our property....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyM
    Our family really look forward to have a parameter fencing. Besides acting as a deterrent for trespassing, I think the whole area will look neat.............hopefully price increase in our property....
    Fencing, GnG, walls, high walls... thats what urban living have come to...people forced to live and protect their homes to the furthest extent possible for fear of security issues.
    Just this weekend, was at Fraser's hill. so nice to see no such thing other than main gate in homes there. DAMN THIS COUNTRY and its values!
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    hahahahhaa...yes! yesterday 2 or 3 peep asked me why the road to usj jammed like teruk...
    I said i dunno leh.

    Now I know, its the left turning Persiaraan Tujuan to USJ2 (before traffic lights) thats been blocked by drums!
    So peep cant turn or hve to slow down..causing bottle neck! hahahahaha.

    kesian u all lah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyM
    Our family really look forward to have a parameter fencing. Besides acting as a deterrent for trespassing, I think the whole area will look neat.............hopefully price increase in our property....
    rakyat, well done, hope all ends well. look forward to a safe USJ 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyM
    Our family really look forward to have a parameter fencing. Besides acting as a deterrent for trespassing, I think the whole area will look neat.............hopefully price increase in our property....
    In my opinion, I think the G&G is very badly planned. I was just driving along a while ago and the traffic jam caused by road closure and the oil drums caused a long long queue from SS18 to USJ2.

    It is one thing to do a G&G and wish your property prices will increase and cause difficulties to the neighborhood and traffic. This is really selfish. I feel that you guys should really re-look at the perimeter again and try and not cause the crazy traffic jams that will occur daily during peak hours. This is really ridiculous.
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    Could the jam be due to the pre CNY phenomenon, where traffic is particularly heavy?

    Let's monitor the situation and see how it goes after CNY and during normal period.
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    I don't think either me nor anyone has any objection to G&G but it must be done as not to disrupt the traffic or cause invonveniences to others. I can understand how Jan Tomaswaki blew his top and flew off the handle coz I went thru a damn long queue this evening too, thank Allah I don't stay there.... just passing by. I think Jan stays around there and has to pass thru EVERYDAY! Poor guy, no wonder he flew off-tangent!
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