Chin Peng , do you remember him?

[firefox]

Okay he wishes to be buried next to his grandfather and father in Sitiawan..will our government grant him at least this wish?..i doubt it, he say why its not possibe and i agree.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/i...ed-in-sitiawan

[bslee]

Malayans suffered a lot under the Emergency era which disrupted progress. They were just terrorists stalking the jungles to an ideology and lost cause that wouldn't work here. Chin Peng got what he deserved and paying for it, exile. Anyone who looses a war pays for it naturally. The way history and media have villified him, I reckon it stays that way for a long time and eventually forgotten in a way no-one will speak any good of it.
I gather veteran British troops who were fighting other people's war here duing the emergency era have no sympathy for this man. They too paid with their lives fighting other people's war.

[Sentinel]

But BS, though your reasoning carries some water, may I ask you about the Peace Truce Agreement signed in Haadyai by the IGP then Tun Haniff Omar and Director of Special Branch (later IGP too) Rahim Noor with Chin Peng? Don't you think an agreement is an agreement and should be honoured as sanctity?

Even Rahim Noor felt that the government should honor its agreement.

Secondly, why are the rest of the communist leaders from CPM who were non-Chinese allowed to return?

[umadavid]

Okay he wishes to be buried next to his grandfather and father in Sitiawan..will our government grant him at least this wish?..i doubt it, he say why its not possibe and i agree.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/i...ed-in-sitiawan

The ruling should be across the bar...here we have known cases of communist who have been allowed back into the country. If others have been allowed back so should Chin Peng. The government must be impartial.

[Sparrow]

The government is more willing to bring back a dead body of a terrorist then to allow an old man to return home.

What threat can a 80+ old man do?

[bslee]

Sentinel: On principle, the garmen should honor the promise, which they haven't and I think they could be viewing him worse than Herman Goring, Reichsmarchall of the 3rd Reich, moreover dilly dally citing many excuses to avoid the issue, till the man is dead???
I suppose this is how things go down in this land where promises can be ignored, forgotten or distracted. I still think the man doesn't deserve to come back and he's to pay the ultimate price of exile. Some of his other henchmen (Rashid Maidin?) didn't and they'll be forgotten eventually. I suppose he's lucky the authorities didn't drag him back for war crimes and a severe penalty.

[Sentinel]

It shows what kind of people we have as our leaders if they do not honor a truce agreement. If one cannot keep his word, one should not make a truce.

I am no supporter nor sympathiser of Chin Peng. I just feel like what many others do: let the bugger come back and honor his ancestors and let him die in Sitiawan lah.... whats the big deal?

If the govt can spend tens of thousands to send a Hercules C130 transport plane all the way to Jakarta and back to bring back a dead terrorist Nordin Mat Top... then be fair lah.

[bslee]

I think getting the truce and surrender terms done IS the main objective, whatever the cost to end hostilities, cost of the war, and make the rakyat happy. THAT was ultimate and prime objective, just like those who get elected, then promises...WHAT promises?

I suppose Nordin top doesn't top the list of villians as much as CP. I've already said I believe and confident he's viewed worse than even Hitler or Tojo. CP waged war and terrorism for a few decades and thousands died, even the British had to be here to fight our war.

[sjcc]

The government is more willing to bring back a dead body of a terrorist then to allow an old man to return home.

What threat can a 80+ old man do?

this statement gave me the chills and goosebums. i think that the government should embrace the 1malaysia that theyve been shouting across the table. he is a malaysian and he fought for what he think is right. i think that chinpeng is a nationalist and should be treated with respect. he's our past, our history and our bridge to learn what really happened.

i cant even start to list down why he should be allowed to come back. why are our leaders being so immature and emotional about this? do they have something to hide? or are they just a bunch of old folks yang suka berdendam?

beats me.

[coleslaw]

asked the families whose loved ones died during that period under chin peng.
unlike him,they never got a chance to live till 85.
my father in law's whole family,relatives included, were all killed. he was saved cos he went for a movie. in just a couple of hours, he was an orphan.
i've never met my grandfather. he was killed before i was born. my late uncle was badly injured stepping on a booby trap.
so chin peng, if you are not allowed back, blame yourself not the government.

[Sentinel]

Sure, I feel for those who lost their loved ones. I lost some of my older relatives too to the Japanese soldiers during the occupation. But hey, my favourite entertainer is Akemi Ishii lah...

If we cannot forgive and move forward, we will always hold a baggage in us. Then don't drive Honda or Toyota lor, don't watch Pokemon or Ultraman and don't use Shiseido lor...

I bet Putrajaya just don't know how to be magnanimous in victory....

[Mat Bruce]

Don't underestimate an 80 year old man...

[Rhiga]

If the body of the most-wanted terrorist can be flown back with tax payer money and buried in his home soil, then Chin Peng deserves to come back.

When he signed a peach agreement with gomen with a condition he is allowed to come back, then it is the legal obligation of the gomen to allow him to come back.

Period

[tupai]

[QUOTE=Sagamihara]If the body of the most-wanted terrorist can be flown back with tax payer money and buried in his home soil, then Chin Peng deserves to come back.

When he signed a peach agreement with gomen with a condition he is allowed to come back, then it is the legal obligation of the gomen to allow him to come back.

Period[/QUOTE]


SOKONG!

'terrorists' who succeded in their cause will be eventually be celebrated & honored as Patriots in history. The losers will forever be branded terrorists.

Anyway,
Whats not honoured in a truce/peace treaty, by the bolehland gomen reflects the character of our gomen. They have been flip-flopping through out...they continue to flip-flop with us the taxpaying citizens...what more an exile?

Yang Berkecewa dgn gomen continuous lack of principles latotupai

[Sentinel]

Tupai, you are a corporate man yourself and I am sure you must have come across the numerous times when our business partners insist the contracts disputes, if any, are to be arbitrated in Singapore courts? That tells you how much trust is there in our country / countrymen honoring their words.