Rajiv and USJ parking

[jimmyay]

FINES and SAMANs ARE neither EDUCATIONAL, DISCIPLINARY nor improve attitudes. Its just blantantly PUNITIVE and I see authorities raking in like some revenue generating authority till kingdom come!, so much so NOTHING much have change and Malaysia still a cowboy country as far as I've seen past donkey years. Dare to tell me I'm wrong? (Errr.... IDIOTIC MALAYSIANS are also to blame for this all!)
My 2 sen!

What you stated is true. Currently, law created had become an "jalan" for corruption.
With some magic, police summon that are can be found online can be completely erased. This is better than cowboy town...it's the magic of money.
Without proper enforcement, whatever suggestion or supplementary law WON'T WORK.


Eg, there is a hole. We use Lid-A to cover it. Then we found out that Lid-A is defective. What do you do?
Solution A - Replace it with a better quality Lid-A (will lead to maintenance of only Lid-A in the future)

Solution B - Put a Lid-B on-top of the Lid-A (will lead to maintenance of Lid-A PLUS Lid-B in the future)

[firefox]

Why you guys banging your head against the wall i have lived in this town for more than 20 years nobody has solved this parking problem, do you think it improve now, its just gets worse by the year, sorry to say councillors are just like us, cari makan too.

[Naka]

If I am still staying in USJ, you can bet yr last ringgit I will. I will not just complain. You can bet I will even start community camping at Subang Ria Park.

OFF-TROPIC

Community Camping at Subang Ria Park?

Looks like you forgot you were supposed to be an Assistant to Mr Rajiv.

Would your Boss condone your action?

(This is my last reply before we are blamed for hijacking this thread.)

[Sentinel]

OFF-TROPIC

Community Camping at Subang Ria Park?

Looks like you forgot you were supposed to be an Assistant to Mr Rajiv.

Would your Boss condone your action?

(This is my last reply before we are blamed for hijacking this thread.)

Where have you been? It is obvious you do not know what I am referring to and yet you claimed me off-topic? Again, you missed the point, big time.

USJ residents previously camped at the playground between USJ4/6 and USJ4/9 when developer wanted to build 2 condominium blocks on the playground. We camped there and hold placards and banners until the press came and then the Selangor MB came too... I was suggesting this same action for saving Subang Ria and there was a thread on this.

What to do, you miss the point again....

p.s. BTW its off-topic and not off-tropic. Off-tropic will take place in 2 days time ie Sept 23rd when the earth moves / shifts on its axis... its called the solstice actually....

[patrick]

Haha, theoretically yes, but when the enforcement is spotted, then people suddenly behaving, drying up the opportunity for summons.

I'm working on a plan, will post it up shortly... (and yerp, it would involve more enforcement there)

I beg to disagree. Why? Many drivers double park very blatantly. Further, the warden is not going to stand by the roadside on display. He/she will be walking around the 5foot way and hence not entirely visible. He/she would only make his appearance when issuing the summons.

In any case, try it out!

[chookyan]

[QUOTE=patrick]I beg to disagree. Why? Many drivers double park very blatantly.

Patrick - you are right on the very blatantly. Once saw a lady being trapped by an idiot who double parked. After 15 minutes the idiot coolly came out from Papa Rich and just drive away without even a sorry, If I was the lady, that guy would be in for a shelling. Mind you most idiots who double park are the BIG CARS and think THEY PAY MORE ROAD TAX.

What about tire shops who 'booked' parking spaces????????

[expat1609]

Bangkok has a unique system of legalized double parking. When you double park, do not use steering locks, leave your hand brakes off....took me a while to get use to it, but it seems to work...

NOT advisable for taipan guys, mostly downhill, don't ask people to leave hand brakes off...in bolehland many will follow good suggestions

[orchipalar]

Err buddies...any vehicles left...unlocked...n unattended...is NOT insured...

Don't go yelling or crying at the Insurance companies...when the vehicle is stolen...n the insurer won't compensate...

Vehicles left under the "care" of unauthorized "Jockey" parking attendants...IF STOLEN...is NOT insured...
UNLESS the STOLEN vehicle owner produced evidence that the "Jockey" service is authorized...when a claim is initiated to the Insurer.

Orchi can foresee a possible...err..."business" interest with the parking issue being proposed or planned or discussed in here...

Another one of those so called "Privatized" "JOCKEY" parking attendant service system...being taken into consideration...which might become "sanctioned" by MPSJ...?

IF so...Orchi can consider to start the PILOT business module going...in a flash...
to get the ball rolling n possibly work things out with MPSJ...
Heck with rising unemployment(Orchi promises to consider hiring only locals)...
Orchi can possibly deploy as many attendants as required to man the parking lots...
say at Taipan for a start...

Can possibly...kill 3 birds with 1 arrow...make profit from this "business"(for MPSJ n for Orchi too)...create employment opportunities...n solve parking problems...

[firefox]

This is what the police should do for traffic offences in Taipan and in other commercial places of SJ.

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/N...cle/index_html

[patrick]

This is what the police should do for traffic offences in Taipan and in other commercial places of SJ.

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/N...cle/index_html

A BIG YES!! That's the way to go!! No warning, no excuses. Just keep slapping on the summons!!

[patrick]

Why you guys banging your head against the wall i have lived in this town for more than 20 years nobody has solved this parking problem, do you think it improve now, its just gets worse by the year, sorry to say councillors are just like us, cari makan too.

Aiyoh firefox...please lah dont make such assumptions!! Firstly, IF you mean the "cari makan" like I understand, please dont assume "just like us"! I DONT cari makan ok? In all my life I have NEVER CARI MAKAN, and NEVER WILL. I'd rather die poor in dignity than live rich in shame! Second, it's not fair to make a sweeing statement that all councillors cari makan. My two bits.

[patrick]

[QUOTE=chookyan]

I beg to disagree. Why? Many drivers double park very blatantly.

Patrick - you are right on the very blatantly. Once saw a lady being trapped by an idiot who double parked. After 15 minutes the idiot coolly came out from Papa Rich and just drive away without even a sorry, If I was the lady, that guy would be in for a shelling. Mind you most idiots who double park are the BIG CARS and think THEY PAY MORE ROAD TAX.

What about tire shops who 'booked' parking spaces????????

I too have seen this happened a number of times. Felt very sympathetic towards the "victims", and just hope it doesnt happen to me. Not sure what I'll do. So far, I have been lucky. When horn a few times, normally they come out. Or my strategy works? I normally do two things:

1. When in Taipan, I dont park too far in. That way, if someone wants to double park behind me, their car would be jutting out onto the road like a sore thumb. So they have to keep a continuous look out for their car.

2. When I horn, I always switch on my headlight and also the blinkers. That way, I make sure the culprit can see that I am the car that's hooting. Otherwise, sometimes it's difficult to relate the hooting to your car and it's difficult for the culprit to note that you want to leave. Sound sometimes travel in a funny way due to the environment and it's difficult to link it to the source.

Hope the tips help you folks when parking in such places.

Rgds.

[kwchang]

...sorry to say councillors are just like us, cari makan too.

Just like Patrick, I will take offense at your sweeping statement and just like Patrick, I don't "cari makan" - I don't care if you are making a confession here but my standards and up-bringing do not allow for me to practice this at all. Furthermore, your statement is belittling all the good councillors, ADUNs, MPs and other public servants who share the same clean service principle.

Unless you apologise in this Forum, I shall let you keep the banana for life...

If you think this is trivial, please note that anyone getting a 2nd banana while holding one in hand (ie 2 bananas at one time) will be fried (pisang goreng) - ie banned form the Forum ... so you got to be very careful with what you post while carrying a banana

[CS Chua]

I wonder if traffic enforcement can be privatized? If yes, perhaps, the various Residents Associations can jointly form a company to take up the job. Payment can be in the form of commission (50% of the fines?) or per ticket issued. This privatized company can also employ traffic wardens to control traffic in SJ/USJ. Of course, MPSJ have to pay for these services. So, if the residents take a direct interest and involvement, it will not only create jobs, it will create a more pleasant environment for us to live in. Doable?

[rajiv]

I wonder if traffic enforcement can be privatized? If yes, perhaps, the various Residents Associations can jointly form a company to take up the job. Payment can be in the form of commission (50% of the fines?) or per ticket issued. This privatized company can also employ traffic wardens to control traffic in SJ/USJ. Of course, MPSJ have to pay for these services. So, if the residents take a direct interest and involvement, it will not only create jobs, it will create a more pleasant environment for us to live in. Doable?

No... I don't think privatisation of enforcement will happen...
If/Once we go ahead with the hourly parking, enforcement will be done much much more....