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    Teachers Training College

    One of my distant relative, from a relatively poor family, is in dire straits. I understand she has just been informed that she has failed to obtain a place in the local university... despite good results.

    I am thinking of recommending her to perhaps undertake a course to become a teacher.

    Anyone here who could provide some info on the various Maktab Perguruan courses and the procedure for application, really appreciate your assistance to share some info.

    I know you will say now already June only come and ask for info., my apologies. She was confident of getting a place in the local uni but it was a great shock for her. And at her tender age, she has never heard of "Murphy's Law" or is she trained on "Contingency Planning" or what they call "Potential Problem Analysis (PPA)" as in PSDM programs...

    I am trying to see if I could be of some assistance to rescue this girl's shattered dreams by at least getting her into a teaching profession...

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    Sorry to hear that,If i am not mistaken ask your relative to look for a job as a temp.teacher after that better chance to admit in or after certain years
    maybe convert to full time teacher

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    Depending on her interest. A lot of people regretted spending 2 to 3 years in the college. It will be faster if she were to get some loan and enrol in some professional courses in Utar, Tar College and then enter the job market.

    For college teacher, after graduation, most likely to be sent to ULU and I don't think the income is able to help her family.

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    Not sure if its a little too late to register for teacher's training in a government college. If education is her interest, she might want to consider the Open University (OUM). They have a few specialised B. Ed. options. Since she has an STPM, entry wouldn't be a problem and OUM degrees are recognised by JPA so if she does opt for the civil service later, it wouldn't be a problem.

    Financially, her parents can opt to withdraw from their EPF to pay for the 1st semester first, and then she can take out PTPTN loans to cover the subsequent semesters (the fees are between 1,080 - 1,590 per semester). She would also have the option of working since OUM's courses are catered for the working adult anyway and that might help pay for some of the semester fees as well.

    Drop me a line sometime to discuss some options. I've already helped pointed a few friends who are working adults to some options being in the same situation myself.

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    Thanks Guys (esp Bob for the long advice). I will wait another day for more input and then drive across to the mainland to meet her and her parents.

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    Sentinel...before giving input, what is her ambition? what she wants to become in the future ??

    there are a few options

    1) If she can take it, is to work first. Work in a bank. At least bank teller have fixed working hours and the pay is not that bad and with fixed bonus. Then from there, can apply study loan for staff. Then from there, as what Bob says, study at OUM. I believe OUM have a branch there. Or alternately, can study at a local college. If not mistaken, if you study banking related matters, the bank will sponsor your study but of course with a working bond.

    2) Take PTPTN loan, but bare in mind at times, PTPTN loan disbursement will be late, and parents need to fork out some money. And the loan only covers the course and exam fees. Thus parents need to have ready cash for it.

    3) If the parents have EPF money, then use it for study. Parents can use Account 2 money for child education.

    I am also currently doing my Part Time MBA and is really tough. So she have to face all this. My opinion, is to take option 1 above. At least, she can earn some money. And if the bank knows that you are studying, normally the branch manager will be flexible with you.

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    Thanks Chewie.. unfortunately the parents are not well-to-do and do not have EPF. Financially, both my wife and I will help out so the main issue is what is the next step for her? She's not even sure what she wants to do but I guess at 17, most of us were also clueless...

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    yeah...when you see her, better advice her not to follow her friends, as many youngster now, when going to college, they tend to follow their friends, study what their friend is studying...

    through her character, i believe you will roughly will know what type of job suits her.

    yeah..when i am 17, i want to be a lawyer, then an engineer, now ended up as a IT personal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel
    [SIZE=4][FONT=Arial Narrow]One of my distant relative, from a relatively poor family, is in dire straits. I understand she has just been informed that she has failed to obtain a place in the local university... despite good results. ....
    Hi Sentinel, give a try at MOE Singapore. She will be paid if she is accepted by MOE be it a trainee in NIE (National Institution of Education)

    " Successful candidates without teaching qualifications will be appointed into the Singapore Education Service as trainee teachers on the General Education Officer 1 (GEO 1) or General Education Officer 2 (GEO 2) salary scales. You will receive a full monthly salary while teaching in schools or undergoing NIE training. Additional salary increments may be granted for relevant working experience."


    Below is the website:
    http://www.moe.edu.sg/careers/teach/career-info/salary/

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    Thanks HTCHONG, perhaps I will do some research on NIE on her behalf....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel
    Thanks HTCHONG, perhaps I will do some research on NIE on her behalf....
    Hi Sentinel, yes give a try.

    Teachers in Singapore command good salary, they are very much compatible to private industry nowaday. Giving an example, a senior teacher can draw easily S$7K ~ $9K a month. A couple of years back, SGP Government has classified teacher as professional and hence command a professional scale salary. This change was done a couple years back, I believe it was during Tharman Shanmugaratnam when he was the Minister for Education.
    Last edited by HTCHONG; 24-06-2009 at 12:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HTCHONG
    Hi Sentinel, give a try at MOE Singapore. She will be paid if she is accepted by MOE be it a trainee in NIE (National Institution of Education)

    " Successful candidates without teaching qualifications will be appointed into the Singapore Education Service as trainee teachers on the General Education Officer 1 (GEO 1) or General Education Officer 2 (GEO 2) salary scales. You will receive a full monthly salary while teaching in schools or undergoing NIE training. Additional salary increments may be granted for relevant working experience."


    Below is the website:
    http://www.moe.edu.sg/careers/teach/career-info/salary/
    wow
    Quote Originally Posted by HTCHONG
    Hi Sentinel, yes give a try.

    Teachers in Singapore command good salary, they are very much compatible to private industry nowaday. Giving an example, a senior teacher can draw easily S$7K ~ $9K a month. A couple of years back, SGP Government has classified teacher as professional and hence command a professional scale salary. This change was done a couple years back, I believe it was during Tharman Shanmugaratnam when he was the Minister for Education.
    double wow. Teacher's in Canada's bigger cities receive a similar salary but pay higher taxes...and they have to fight for it with strikes, union negotiation, etc and take public criticism.

    Sentinel, I wish your relative the best of luck. And kudos to you and your wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel
    Thanks Chewie.. unfortunately the parents are not well-to-do and do not have EPF. Financially, both my wife and I will help out so the main issue is what is the next step for her? She's not even sure what she wants to do but I guess at 17, most of us were also clueless...
    This skills and assessment tool by the UK Government's Learning and Skills Council might be helpful:

    http://careersadvice.direct.gov.uk/h...career/skills/
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    There are many government sponsor courses, beside teaching there are nursing, drama, baking etc. Read out Berita Harian / Utusan Malaysia/The Star daily for advertisement.

    Health care is a good line to go in, beside recession proof, demand is plenty, not only Mísia but in oversea as well. Health care is wide scope, cover nursing, imaging, physiotherapy, laboratory, Pharmacy, etc. If I can start anew, I will venture into this line. There are many hospitals sponsoring this course, look out The Star advertisement. Of course it can with 5 years bond.

    I do agree with Chewie suggestion, there are tellers quit after got place in public Uni a few years later. Beside, she can goes for IBBM course, but this is tough.

    MOE Singapore is another good option.

    Be patient, wait for opportunity to come.

    Perhaps, can she has better luck next Uni intake.

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    I know the discussion is geared towards teaching as a profession but make sure she has an interest in this. If she doesn't like children but take this up feeling she has no other choice then she'll end up miserable working as a teacher the rest of her life. If she has no clue to what to do yet, many at that age has no clue, try working first. I have known many who have tried this path and from the work experience decide their career path and work towards it. This is a better idea than try study something and figure it's not the right course for them.
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