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    well you must be a master in undang2
    hello mr defiant and law abiding citizen
    1 do you or have you ever not use your signal lights in changing or switching lanes?
    2 do you or have you ever 'forgotten' or deliberately not switch on your headlamps in the evenings or during heavy rain?
    3 have you not stop albeit momentarily in yellow boxes or double yellow lines
    4 have you not park your car indiscriminately or hadhazardly when you were'unloading'or picking your child from school?
    5have you ever traverse 3 lanes in a single dangerous movement that irks and endangers the life of other drivers?

    mr smart drive-malaysian drivers break traffic rules with impunity and you are recommendingor suggesting that we should 'behave'in the highways?
    perhaps you are the only one driving 110 in the lane design for overtaking and still scoffing at others for flashing the lights!!
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    bad drivers and road hogs go str8 to hell...Last i checked, no virgin there...Many vamps though

    my buddy, Peter told me that many of those passing his gates, are in their 80s & 90s and even a few centurions, and not one was a road hog, let alone bad driver

    JUST stay left, middle lane...and u can go to heaven too and in ONE piece...and looking beautiful. Not all mangled & damaged and bloodied and twisted and broken and *ugh*

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    p/s This is personal. MasterQ...u r both an ignorant and dangerous driver indeed. OUTSIDE lane is overtaking lane...NOT a cruising-at-110kph lane!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel
    As for not continuosly driving at 130-140kmph continuously, what do you suggest. Fast and slow and fast and slow, izzit? C'monlah, it doesn't make sense lah, it all depends on the traffic situation lah, not strict and fast rule about it...
    sure, tell that to the traffic cop Of course no situation is perfect and rules dont apply 100% to each and every situation...but this isnt about rules, it is about laws....and safety on the roads.

    Yes, I do slow down if I cannot overtake safely...and yes, sometimes I pass 3 or 4 or 5 cars at a stretch... often wondering why in heaven's name they are in the middle lane when the left one is totally clear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterQ
    I purposely wrote this way and I know this forum is full of people who would not hesitate to cast their stones at me without knowing the situation I can be in. Remember this thread is titled "The Worst of the Habits on Our Highways." I have come across cases where drivers including one or two in this forum who think that by flashing your lights, everybody in front of you get off my path regardless of whether it is safe for them to move aside. Didn't I say they must be patient? You think I don't know my undang undang. I always have my eyes on the rear view mirror and I do give way when it is safe to do so. I don't drive flashy cars like some people do that I can afford to stay put at the fast lane from Penang to KL. I just want to prove that there exist people who think the highway is built purely for them. They think they are Moses with their high beam lights parting the vehicles. They want to overtake so do I but expecting me to move aside just because they want to overtake me is selfish. What about those traffic on my left? I need time to give way to them and asking me to risk my life to do so at the flick of their lights is suicidal and I don't think I will be rewarded with 72 virgins by doing do.
    Personally, if the car in front can't move over bcos there's no space on the left lane, I would respect that and keep a safe distance. I would turn on the right indicator and 'gentle' flash once I can see that there's a big and safe space for the car to get back into the left lane SAFELY..

    I do admit that there are some buggers who wouldn't care that there's no space in the left lane for the slower car to slot in from the fast lane..

    However, must say that most of the time I encounter road hogs who just want to stick to the right lane even though the left lane is clear...

    Actually, when there's a jam on the Federal Highway, there's a higher chance of an accident happening on the fast lane.. So most of the time I'll just go on the 'slower' lane when plying the Fed Hiway...

    And logically, don't you think that if you travel on a 3-lane expressway, it's safer to go on the middle lane? If the car do get into a spin, there's more space on the left and right, so less chance of a visit to the side barrier and center divider..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabe18
    Personally, if the car in front can't move over bcos there's no space on the left lane, I would respect that and keep a safe distance. I would turn on the right indicator and 'gentle' flash once I can see that there's a big and safe space for the car to get back into the left lane SAFELY.. .
    now that is courtesy. Road hogging is rude but to my mind, "flash-to-pass" is also rude.

    1 flash + the indicator + leaving space is good courtesy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fabe18
    And logically, don't you think that if you travel on a 3-lane expressway, it's safer to go on the middle lane? If the car do get into a spin, there's more space on the left and right, so less chance of a visit to the side barrier and center divider..
    good point...and many drivers who hog the middle lane use similar logic ...in the middle lane they dont have to slow down and make way for drivers merging.

    Logical but dangerous...to my mind, being in the middle lane means that I can be hit from all sides...it is actually the most dangerous place to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllUrban
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    Logical but dangerous...to my mind, being in the middle lane means that I can be hit from all sides...it is actually the most dangerous place to be.

    Cheers, m
    OK. Thats it! I am gonna staying put at home and play with my dog. I am gonna be a homebody. Final!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllUrban
    Logical but dangerous...to my mind, being in the middle lane means that I can be hit from all sides...it is actually the most dangerous place to be.

    Cheers, m
    Actually depending on the road condition... On the NKVE, the leftmost lane isn't exactly in good condition as it is mainly used by heavy vehicles.. I have tried using it before.. the middle lane is the better alternative.

    And speaking of not-so-good condition left lanes, this is also reason why we have slow car using the right lane (on a 2 lane road). When the road is bad on the left lane, naturally, they would try to stay on the right lane.. Provided there's no faster cars overtaking. That I can understand and tolerate. It is only when they refused to make way by going to the left lane even when it is safe to do so that irked me (and oso others facing the same predicament)

    Actually if we see a broader perspective of Malaysian's driving, most of us don't sit properly when driving. 1 look at the driver's seating position and you can tell whether he/she is a competent driver.. Most ppl sit either too close to the steering or reclined too far back.

    Incorrect seating position can proof fatal.
    -seat too close to steering : restricted hand movement.
    -reclined to much : not enough leverage to turn steering fast enough. When executing emergency braking, your body might move up the seat.
    - if your legs is fully stretched when you depressed the brakes, a frontal collision will transmit the impact from the straighten leg to your hips, worst case scenario would be broken knee and also fractured hip. Your knees should be slightly bend when you depress your brake pedal fully..

    I don't know whether these things are taught during the regular driving classes. But I know correct seating position is a must-teach syllabus in defensive driving course and advanced driving courses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tupai
    OK. Thats it! I am gonna staying put at home and play with my dog.
    Lato, no need to take such a drastic measure lah. You can start by buying a car.
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    http://subangboy.blogspot.com/2009/0...ay-ethics.html

    The writer of this letter echoes what I have been thinking while driving the Subang Jaya-Penang route along the North-South Expressway: Why doesn't anyone use the left-most lane for cruising?!

    I have noticed it many times. The middle and right lanes are always occupied by cruising vehicles (i.e. they are not overtaking anyone at that time). Some even cruise below the legal speed limit, so if I were to be cruising at 110kph, and they at 100kph, I effectively overtake them from the left!

    Why is it so hard to use the left lane? This I believe is due to the misconception of highway lanes and their uses.

    Firstly, the left lane is popularly called the "slow" lane. Drivers don't like to be labeled as "slow". Hence they use the middle or right lanes, typically labeled "fast" lanes. Well, this is wrong understanding! The left most lane is actually the "cruising" lane, i.e. if you're not overtaking anyone, stick to this lane. You can be traveling at 110kph (or higher, if you so wish) and still be in the left lane, as long as you are not overtaking anyone. The moment you want to overtake someone, you signal to the middle or right lanes, which are known as "overtaking" lanes. One could be driving at 80kph, but as long as he is overtaking a slow lorry traveling at 60kph, he is legally allowed to occupy the overtaking lane for the duration that he is performing the overtaking maneuver.

    I always use the cruising lane. I find it to be so much smoother compared to using the overtaking lanes all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterQ
    I purposely wrote this way and I know this forum is full of people who would not hesitate to cast their stones at me without knowing the situation I can be in. Remember this thread is titled "The Worst of the Habits on Our Highways." I have come across cases where drivers including one or two in this forum who think that by flashing your lights, everybody in front of you get off my path regardless of whether it is safe for them to move aside. Didn't I say they must be patient? You think I don't know my undang undang. I always have my eyes on the rear view mirror and I do give way when it is safe to do so. I don't drive flashy cars like some people do that I can afford to stay put at the fast lane from Penang to KL. I just want to prove that there exist people who think the highway is built purely for them. They think they are Moses with their high beam lights parting the vehicles. They want to overtake so do I but expecting me to move aside just because they want to overtake me is selfish. What about those traffic on my left? I need time to give way to them and asking me to risk my life to do so at the flick of their lights is suicidal and I don't think I will be rewarded with 72 virgins by doing do.
    Don't you back-track and backpedal here, my friend. You wrote what you wrote - including stopping at the next stop to settle etc - and that is what all readers & forumers here read, understood and reacted. So, please don't come and tell us another version of a cock & bull story and put in Moses and your 72 virgins.

    And there is no need to come into this forum to judge them as good or bad drivers. There ain't any need to pass moral judgement too.

    The point is you claim to be right in staying put on the inside-fast lane even at 110kmph and you couldn't care less about the car behind you, thats the fact. No need to twist and turn and then give a moral lecture to the other forumers.

    I am not a perfect driver myself but I sure don't mind if you meet me at the next stop to settle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllUrban
    sure, tell that to the traffic cop Of course no situation is perfect and rules dont apply 100% to each and every situation...but this isnt about rules, it is about laws....and safety on the roads.

    Yes, I do slow down if I cannot overtake safely...and yes, sometimes I pass 3 or 4 or 5 cars at a stretch... often wondering why in heaven's name they are in the middle lane when the left one is totally clear.


    Cheers, m
    C'monlah AllUrban, don't drag in the cops here lah.

    You said we should all drive at 110kmph and so I asked you, how are we going to overtake another car driving at the same speed i.e. 110kmph?

    Second point you made was we must not drive at a constant speed all the time, I agreed. And I also chided you by saying should we then drive fast-and-slow-and-fast?

    Listen, driving at 120-130kmph is not dangerous at all. Sometimes you need to do just that to get away from some idiots on the road, to get away from danger lurking around their driving behaviors!

    I started this thread knowing there will be a lot of opposing opinions, fair enough, but some habits are exactly what I stated from the start - stupid habits!
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    sentinel..i am sure that i do not want to meet you to settle with you... but meet you for a cup of teh tarik will do...

    master.. if you think that what you did is right, then i have nothing to say. i guess the driver that i was flashing lights when i was back from ipoh yesterday was you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllUrban
    Logical but dangerous...to my mind, being in the middle lane means that I can be hit from all sides...it is actually the most dangerous place to be.

    Cheers, m
    You choose not to be in the middle lane because "in the middle lane means I can be hit from all sides... it is actually the most dangerous place to be".

    Just one simple (and straightforward) question: "Is that the right thing to do?" or is it just for your own "feeling of safety"?
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    mmm….Malaysia highway is build for 110kmph, not 130kmph, not 150kmph, not 180kmph, not 200kmph even for big cars and F1 driver. So why want to drive so fast at the first place? If everyone driving at the max speed of 110±kmph and only turn to right land when overtaking, then the highway will be very smoothly butit’s impossible lar with some of the drivers attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newer
    mmm….Malaysia highway is build for 110kmph, not 130kmph, not 150kmph, not 180kmph, not 200kmph even for big cars and F1 driver. So why want to drive so fast at the first place? If everyone driving at the max speed of 110±kmph and only turn to right land when overtaking, then the highway will be very smoothly butit’s impossible lar with some of the drivers attitude.
    I repeat the question I posed to AllUrban, if one car is moving at 110kmph and the other car is at the same speed, how to move to the right lane and overtake lar....
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