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    Suspect died while in police custody at Taipan Police Station

    I could not sleep so I surf the net and guess what I found.

    A 22-year-old man who was detained in connection with several car theft cases died at the Taipan police station in USJ yesterday morning. And this Taipan Police station is such an insignificant police station and yet this person died in their custody.

    And as expected, this cannot be trusted Selangor police chief Khalid Abu Bakar said that Kugan had died of breathing difficulties. This guy is such an expert that he can tell you the cause of death faster than the pathologist!!But photographs and video footages showed blue black marks on his body. On top of that I can also see deep cuts in his wrists and what makes me sick in the stomach is blood has oozed out from his nose and mouth. He must have died a horrible death which I least expected from my neighbourhood police station. Wonder why people patronising the coffeeshop nearby didn't hear any screaming.

    The question I want to ask is "What is happening in the lock up lately?" There are getting too many cases of mysterious deaths in the hands of our police force. If they dared to whack you in public like what happeded in Taman Mahkota Cheras on the toll issue, can you imagine what will happen to you behind closed doors especially those doors with silencers.

    Just a few days ago another suspect was poured boiling water on his body while in police custody. I shivered to think if I am wrongly pulled in as a crime suspect, do I straight away confess to the crime which I didn't commit and live to blog the story or swear on my dead body my innocence and literary lay dead in the morgue? May be first thing tomorrow morning I will call my MP to pose this question for me in Parliament.

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    I think this is a bit sensitive to write here especially with regards to police lockup death. All death in lockup are investigated by the AG department. Those policemen who are connected to this case will suspended while pending investigation and postmortem report submitted. Until then we should not comment and complicate the issue further. Rest assure, those guilty will have to face the book.
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    Some post-mortem images showing visible wounds on the deceased can be seen here:

    http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/17131/84/

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugbear
    I think this is a bit sensitive to write here especially with regards to police lockup death. All death in lockup are investigated by the AG department. Those policemen who are connected to this case will suspended while pending investigation and postmortem report submitted. Until then we should not comment and complicate the issue further. Rest assure, those guilty will have to face the book.
    as far as i am aware the ag's dept does not conduct investigations on culpability. complaints against the cops are investigated by their peers. if what masterq says about the police chief giving a verdict before a post-mortem report is issued, then something is very wrong and the public is obliged to condemn such prejudice. i would even propose that such action could be deemed to be intentionally deceiving the public. a good statesman will always deflect attention or buy time by saying things such as "we have our policies and procedures. lets wait for the post-mortem. we will take action if any of our men are liable." these are basic pr statements which need not necessarily translate into action. its not just a govt ploy - the entire business world does it. its essential basic customer service. chapter 2. (chapter 1 is acknowledge your client, whoever he or she may be, even it it is the devil).

    evidence of injuries may appear to be damning, but unless and until the cause of it is determined, it might be more prudent to call for further investigations rather than convict cop doe in a public court. however, if there was indeed blood oozing out the the nose and mouth, there must have been some very recent trauma. of course trauma could have been, as yim insists was performed by nimala, self-inflicted. but at least, would be consistent with "breathing difficulties". i'd love to see anybody breathe normally when you have even a simple normal nose bleed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobkee
    Some post-mortem images showing visible wounds on the deceased can be seen here:

    http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/17131/84/

    Not particularly squemish but discretion is adviced.
    Death due to police brutality, no doubt. It almost always seems to involve young males from a particular ethnicity. And they are angry, judging from the comments at Malaysia Today.

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    Every Malaysian should be angry. This is a tough and dangerous road, but the ruling (for now) government must be made to understand that this is not acceptable, and someone must be made accountable - according to the law of the land - be it someone from the home ministry, or police, etc. So far, there is quiet on the government front... knowing that these, like so many other incidents, will be forgotten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simon_tan
    Every Malaysian should be angry. This is a tough and dangerous road, but the ruling (for now) government must be made to understand that this is not acceptable, and someone must be made accountable - according to the law of the land - be it someone from the home ministry, or police, etc. So far, there is quiet on the government front... knowing that these, like so many other incidents, will be forgotten.

    i heard that once u in lokap u most likely to get beating...those prone to beatings are the criminals and gangsta. just got to pray for fairness for them Also no one will know why they beat them in the first place.

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    Another brutality act by PRDM. (Polis Raja Di Malaysia)
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    judgement without trial, judgement without defence, action in makamah awam. I think these should be read as public brutality. I am not defending anybody, definitely not siding the men in blue, not especially when it was reported that the deceased had already led the cops to the recovery of some stolen vehicles implying cooperation of some sort – lets not get to the technicality of whether or not the cooperation was voluntary or otherwise. according to the report in today’s star, the chief is quoted to have issued standard public relations statements without laying or denying blame. unless my impaired vision missed it, there was no mention of breathing difficulties.

    ps - maybe I am being so nice today because in the last 18 hours I experienced one of the best customer service from the garbage people – alam flora – the second time they exceeded my expectations by miles – and the service is nothing to do with garbage collection or cleaning of drains etc (this areas still got major problem at ground level). I’m documenting it in an article titled move aside Johnny and wally, here comes the garbage truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Jasmine
    i heard that once u in lokap u most likely to get beating
    If DS Anwar himself got a black eye courtesy of you know who, what about lesser mortals?. Needless to explain. This is BOLEHLAND and don't ever speak about human rights here? Treated as guilty even before being charged...like ISA. All hypocrites!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joker2107

    evidence of injuries may appear to be damning, but unless and until the cause of it is determined, it might be more prudent to call for further investigations rather than convict cop doe in a public court. however, if there was indeed blood oozing out the the nose and mouth, there must have been some very recent trauma. of course trauma could have been, as yim insists was performed by nimala, self-inflicted. but at least, would be consistent with "breathing difficulties". i'd love to see anybody breathe normally when you have even a simple normal nose bleed.
    I was involved in a recent lockup death which was handled by the state AG. I am the expert witness to the postmortem finding in court. Sometime, postmortem finding like blood oozing from the nose and mouth is a normal thing that occur due to postmortem changes which to the layman can be seen as damning evident of brutality. That is why I would rather wait for the official report before commenting further.

    In this case I would give the cops a reasonable doubt until it has been through a court of law. On the other hand what the state police statement about the cause of death is not right. For me that is not the right way to handle the PR aspect of this case which is bound to be highly sensitive with the public. Until then it would be wise to tone down the rhetoric and be level headed.
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    I agree with Bugbear's comments

    Let us not be the judge and jury, at least not in a public forum
    If we respect the law and the judicial process, let the responsible authorities do their job.

    Some people like to form a lynch mob at the drop of the coin.

    This should not be the practice of a civil society

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    Updated: Thursday January 22, 2009 MYT 12:48:24 PM

    http://thestar.com.my/news/nation/

    Selangor police chief Deputy Comm Datuk Khalid Abu Bakar said the post-mortem showed that Kugan, a suspected car thief who was being questioned at the Taipan police station in Subang Jaya, died of liquid in his lungs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterQ
    Updated: Thursday January 22, 2009 MYT 12:48:24 PM

    http://thestar.com.my/news/nation/

    Selangor police chief Deputy Comm Datuk Khalid Abu Bakar said the post-mortem showed that Kugan, a suspected car thief who was being questioned at the Taipan police station in Subang Jaya, died of liquid in his lungs.
    MasterQ, coming for this Sunday night's candle light vigil at MBPJ?

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