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Thread: To Yoga or not?

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    To Yoga or not?

    This is the burning question I had on my mind. Many believe it is a form of exercise but others do not agree. What is your take on this issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bugbear
    This is the burning question I had on my mind. Many believe it is a form of exercise but others do not agree. What is your take on this issue?
    I believe that it is a form of exercise that originated from religious beliefs ie. Hinduism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zerowindez
    I believe that it is a form of exercise that originated from religious beliefs ie. Hinduism.
    So you actually agree with the fatwa that yoga actually originate from Hinduism and that people has somehow take it as a form of exercise. But don't you agree that there are elements of Hinduism involve in this practice?
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    There should be another option in the poll for people who don't really care.
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    frens...i try to put here something that 99.999% non moslem in this country will never understand.

    it really angers our moslem brothers/sisters, when each time a fatwa issued to moslem, non moslem take to the street to protest,like the tomboy issue, where many non moslem NGO carry banners, shouting insults, belittling moslem muftis. if moslem themselves want to protest,let it be.

    it's not enough for you to say,i don't care. please don't march down the street.

    i bet many here won't agree with me.
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    keny...actually, i do agree with you.

    But I totally do not agree with Fatwa reason. I have a friend, a muslim, a freak yoga kaki... but he really devote himself to Islam.
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    it really worries me, as a muslim, that the religious departments think they can impose on people's lives. They are arguing that it is up to the state religious departments to make it law or not...but then, why create more laws that are not enforceable.

    let's see...I remember what dickens said..."The law is an a$$, an idiot"

    Ok, so Yoga is out...so what are the alternatives?

    Weight lifting? can get you towards drug abuse
    Aerobics? too sexy
    Dance classes? too sexy
    Cycling classes? music is too loud and there is too much screaming
    fitness centres? loud music and foul language
    unisex fitness centres? Can encourage other issues

    m thinks Yoga is the lesser of all of these "evils" Also interested to see what they will do in Kelantan and Perlis.

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    in my opinion, i do feel that they have nothing else better to do... if i am correct, yoga is being practice by many since years ago and now why want to bring it up?

    why not they zoom their focus towards the mat rempit and other issues. I believe there is more thing around for them to do..
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    Quote Originally Posted by chewie
    in my opinion, i do feel that they have nothing else better to do... if i am correct, yoga is being practice by many since years ago and now why want to bring it up?

    why not they zoom their focus towards the mat rempit and other issues. I believe there is more thing around for them to do..
    The Police cannot simply catch the Rempits....latter the IGP gets upset.
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    I'm a christian and I practice Yoga. No big deal.....
    Just like I'm Chinese I speak Malay.....also No big deal.
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    Fatwa on traditional Malay wedding

    I the name of consistency there should now be fatwas issued on a number of Malay traditions. For instance, most of the rituals in the traditional Malay wedding originate from Hinduism. Some rituals related to the full moon celebration of a new-born child originate from Hinduism. Aren't all those the recognition of other gods than Allah? Might they not - just as much as Yoga - risk making people be influenced by non-Islamic things?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zerowindez
    I believe that it is a form of exercise that originated from religious beliefs ie. Hinduism.
    I think yours is a wrong perspective which led to such a ban.

    Exercises related to yoga originated from the necessary need for every human to be physically fit in tandem with mental fitness. Physical fitness can be independent of spiritual/religious practices, however, physical exercise will complement the spiritual life. Similarly, everyone can opt for healthier food or being a vegetarian without being spiritual.

    The early sages recognized the criticalness of physical fitness for human well being. All sorts of exercises were introduced to enhance physical fitness. Bodhidharma introduced Shoalin Kung-Fu to the monks.
    It is normally qualified in holy texts that these exercises and intellectual competency, no matter how one is good at them, will not contribute significantly and directly one's spiritual growth. (with rare exceptions)

    Thus exercises introduced by spiritual practioners should be regarded independent of their spiritual paths. It is the same with what spiritual practioners eat to keep themselves healthy.

    Going by the logic, they should ban Kung Fu, Qi Gong, TaiChi, dancing, and all exercises that are related to spiritual practices. The olympics was started with activities to idolize the greek gods, so .. boycott olympics lah..

    To avoid the confusion, perhaps they should not term those health benefit exercise as yoga but by another name. Pilates is also similar to yoga with proper breathing and posture techniques.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isarahim
    I the name of consistency there should now be fatwas issued on a number of Malay traditions. For instance, most of the rituals in the traditional Malay wedding originate from Hinduism. Some rituals related to the full moon celebration of a new-born child originate from Hinduism. Aren't all those the recognition of other gods than Allah? Might they not - just as much as Yoga - risk making people be influenced by non-Islamic things?
    You just hit the nail on the head isa. Maybe yoga is easier to pick on compared to other issue like malay culture. Culture and tradition are part and parcel of who a malay is and Islam is just part of the issue here. Remember, Parameswaran was actually a hindu and remain a hindu until his son Sultan Mahkota Iskandar Syah embraces Islam.It was not until 1445 that Islam become the official religion on Malacca. The early Malacca sultanate based their administration on the srivijaya empire in Palembang.

    In trying to unravel the Islamic value from the Hindu value of Malay culture will invariably cause disunity among Malays. Thus Yoga become the easier scrap goat to fall. Yoga on the other hand refers to traditional physical and mental disciplines originating in India; to the goal achieved by those disciplines; and to one of the six orthodox (āstika) schools of Hindu philosophy. Outside India, the term yoga is typically associated with Hatha Yoga and its asanas (postures) or as a form of exercise.

    Whether, yoga can influence a person's faith is still subjective and is open to lots of argument and soul searching. You be the judge. But beware the spirit behind yoga which is the unseen element. I am not talking about physical attribute here but rather the spiritual aspect, the unseen and the unknown. I will let each person be the judge of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justme123
    I think yours is a wrong perspective which led to such a ban.

    Going by the logic, they should ban Kung Fu, Qi Gong, TaiChi, dancing, and all exercises that are related to spiritual practices. The olympics was started with activities to idolize the greek gods, so .. boycott olympics lah..

    To avoid the confusion, perhaps they should not term those health benefit exercise as yoga but by another name. Pilates is also similar to yoga with proper breathing and posture techniques.
    Ahh...but the Malays are not really into Qi Gong and TaiChi like yoga and thus the absent of such fatwa. I am sure if the Malays would jump into these activities, I bet these Ulamas would issue one in due course.
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    The Sultan of Selangor said that the State Fatwa Committee would meet to deliberate the matter deeper so that a decision is not made hastily.

    http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp...148&sec=nation
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