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    Angry Common courtesy

    It is really irritating encountering people who do not have the courtesy of holding the elevator door open for others. I live in an apartment where we have to use the elevator daily and countless of times I encounter these "elevator offenders" when they either walk right to the end of the lift not bothering to hold the door open and stare at you blankly (some even pretend to look elsewhere) when as you are just about to walk in, the door just closses. And there have been times when they just pushes the close button the minute they get in. And there you are scambling to get the door open and they just ignore you. Isn't it just so annoying , especially if you are laden with heavy duty groceries.

    There is these one particular lady who is the queen of elevator offenders...Oh how she just riles me up...Once, I had bagsfull of heavy groceries...and we were standing side by side at the elevator...when the door opened she quickly walked right in first and she stood beside the elevator buttons....Now, she never even bothered to get her stubby little fingers to push the open button....Just stood there..looking at me trying to stumble in with heavy groceries that seemed to be almost pulling my arms out of it's socket (Incidentaly, why do the cashiers at carrefour always loads all the heavy stuff in one plastic bag??) And then...the lift door started closing in on me as I was halfway in...I did not have a free hand to push any buttons or stop the lift...so I had to do this embaressing maneuver using my buttocks by sticking it way way out and pushing the lift door open...and yet she did nothing to help me...neither did she push the open button.Just staring at me.. some of my canned items went rolling down onto the elevator floor and with the god given mighty strenght of my butt, managed to get inside the lift...I put my groceries down and pushed my floor number and started picking up my cans of longan and green peas...while seething with anger and not to mention embaressment of my butt maneuvering skills ( and my butt was hurting too from holding the lift door open) And then, she tried acting all friendly saying "Wah, pergi shopping ke? Banyak barang you beli"...Oh heaven help me, I almost wanted to throw my can of longan at her!! Incidentally, this was the third time I had encountered her and each time she'd walk in not caring if you can get into the elevator or not.

    Really, it may be a small matter..you can always wait for another lift..but I find it just so rude and uncalled for...WHY CANT SOME PEOPLE BE DECENT ENOUGH TO WAIT FOR OTHERS TO GET INTO THE ELEVATOR??? ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE JUST 1 STEP BEHIND YOU??? WHY!!
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    i guess most ppl are just not brought up to be courteous, ie it is not a way of life.

    msians are well known to be like that. not holding door for you when you are following behind them entering a room/building, not waiting for you to get out of elevator before they get in, when you smile or greet them morning/afternoon, you get the stares, etc.

    so? ppl are like that. cant change. just accept it.

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    You should have told her straight...it would have been nicer if she had held the elevator door! Probably that would have hit at the back of her head….it would have been courteous to help rather than watching

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbearer
    so? ppl are like that. cant change. just accept it.
    Can!.. it comes from upbringing and todays parents are bound by responsibility to teach their kids on the importance of courtesy in their future actions and speech. Parents lack of high education or foresight isn't an excuse. Its simply a priorty moral obligation for a better world in the future.
    Money, wealth and the material world isn't everything.
    For instance I've embedded into my sons to say verbally say "THANK YOU" in every act of appreciation and another is to interrupt whatever he may be doing (whilst at home regardless at upstairs or downstairs) and "handshake wish/salam" with any friendly visitor that may come by to my home at any time. I ain't a perfect parent, but I've thought its highly an essential moral. My dad didn't teach me that?.. but I witnessed a perfect example of those decades ago and passed it on my future generation, with the hopes they'd pass it on too!. BTW..NO TV dinners too..everyone MUST be at the dinner table together having a meal..at home that is.
    Last but not least, I'd hold the elevator door without any prejudice till everyone's in or out. Costs me nothing!.

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    Just ignore her la syltel. No point telling thick skin people like her. Sometimes its scary to offend people who knows where you stay. All sorts can happen - black magic, bomoh and dead chicken, who knows when we will trigger any surpressed emotions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeeJay
    You should have told her straight...it would have been nicer if she had held the elevator door! Probably that would have hit at the back of her head….it would have been courteous to help rather than watching
    Yes, I should have said something to her then. But at that time, I was insanely angry...and I knew if I had opened my mouth to say something, no words would have come out except for a blinding scream.

    Isn't it a shame that this is how we perceive msians...as tbearer posted

    msians are well known to be like that. not holding door for you when you are following behind them entering a room/building, not waiting for you to get out of elevator before they get in, when you smile or greet them morning/afternoon, you get the stares, etc.
    Syltel@home

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    Quote Originally Posted by syltel
    Isn't it a shame that this is how we perceive msians...as tbearer posted
    And why not?. tell me how effective is the school subject "Kemahiran hidup" in the past or present?... Blame gomen again?. I'll kena banana if I start pissing about. (but banana trees could benefit from my piss..it'll be a sweeter fruit!..can it? )

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    Hi Syltel.. i also live in an apartment.. But I have never experienced those things that happened to you. they ALWAYS hold the button for me. And if they see me or anyone with heavy groceries, they will ask which floor button to press.

    My neighbour (living on the same floor) is even nicer. If he gets into the lift first, he would hold the "open" button for me, even if at that time I was nowhere near the lift, for example, when I am in the middle of locking the door. I guess.... this has been like a norm here. Overall, i'm happy with my aprtmnt and my neighbours BUTTTT I stay in USJ 1, so there are so many Mydin workers staying here in my apartment. And everytime I see a group of Mydin workers walking towards the lift, I also became one of those "elevator offenders", I would quickly press the close button. But everytime I make sure that they are far enough from the lift and did not realize my "kurang ajar"ness.

    But if they are already in front of the lift, I would just let them go in first, and I would just take the next "trip", or use another lift. I don't mean to be judgemental or prejudice towards Bangladeshi Mydin workers (and also Indonesians), but I just don't want to take any risk.

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    Well, one area in MY which is sorely lacking in common courtesy is the frontliners in the service industry. How many times have you told the checkout staff 'thank you' after getting your change from the grocery bill and the person won't even look up, least of all, respond.

    And don't get me started on the melee when it comes to boarding or disembarking from the commuter / lrt trains (or Air Asia!) !!

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    Lifts...... I see a lot of people struggling to hold the lift or press the button, but all you need to do is touch the sensor and the door of the lift would just retract back again.

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    These are some of the hazards of staying in apartments i suppose. This is a typical mentality of some malaysians, just live and let live its no use to harbour your anger its bad for health..its bound to happen again and again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vsat
    Lifts...... I see a lot of people struggling to hold the lift or press the button, but all you need to do is touch the sensor and the door of the lift would just retract back again.
    Yes, some lifts would have that sensor movement but most lifts don't have. It would retract back when your hands are really squeezed.
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    I've even see some people when they know that you're trying to rush to get into the lift they would just press the close button and while closing they would just look at you running to reach for the lift to open back. If you managed then they would step back and keep quiet, if not then is just bye bye.

    Some people when they are in the lift esp near the buttons they don't know how to press the button open till people gets out or when they are out press close. Come to think of it, there are a lot of these kind of people in my working area.
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    Important question: Why do people behave in such a manner? Answer that and you will begin to understand why such things happen in our society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbearer
    i guess most ppl are just not brought up to be courteous, ie it is not a way of life...

    so? ppl are like that. cant change. just accept it.
    common courtesy? still exist ka?

    if I may add... it is non existant for a while now... especially in elevators, escalators, walkalators... heck, damn practically every evrywhere la... nada!

    How many times have you used an escalator and you get two fat-assed persons standing side-by-side, blocking you from walking up.. [ for crying out loud - an escalator is NOT a place for a bloody conversation!], same with a walkalator.... this ALWAYS happens at our local airports... Irritates the hell out of me... one reason why I like to use those baggage trolleys (if only I could use a foghorn with them trolleys, would be fun... )

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