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    Need some painting advise....

    hi everyone,

    would appreciate if you could let me know any painters that charge reasonably and are good at their work. Need to paint my small appartment. I wish i could DIY but i need to skim coat my wall and i'm not so good at that.

    what paint would you reccomend for a small place? ici pearl glo or pentalite?


    thanks..appreciate your feedback

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    JD... if your apartment is small, then you shud just go to ACE Hardware and get the paint and paint the apartment yourself... that way you can save some hard earned cash and get yourself to DIY your own place...

    another thing, try to use a paint pad instead of a roller... you can also get it at ACE hardware.( there's one in Summit USJ). The paint pad is fast and cleaner than using a roller... and has better control over surfaces.

    In fact, I painted my entire 2 storey front in less than a day with this method! Two colors too...

    If you need some advice... PM me... and I will show you how to DIY this project. Can even lend you a ladder and other essentials for it... cheers.

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    wah....bro...if i wanna paint, can u borrow me those tools? and some painting kungfu too?
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    From my experience, ICI paint is easier to apply but generally need 2 coats cos of its more diluted nature. But its colour is the closest to what you see from manufacturer's color chart.

    Not to mention it's most expensive as well.

    While Nippon is more concentrated & very good at covering dirt & old paint. However, the actual result differ a lot from the color chart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayded
    hi everyone,

    would appreciate if you could let me know any painters that charge reasonably and are good at their work. Need to paint my small appartment. I wish i could DIY but i need to skim coat my wall and i'm not so good at that.

    what paint would you reccomend for a small place? ici pearl glo or pentalite?


    thanks..appreciate your feedback

    actually painting is not a tedious job but if you really need one you can find lots of free lance workers from any nearby house being renovated..its cheaper to pay driectly to the painter then to a contractor...coming to paints the quality is almost the same you pay extra for the brand name.. its cheaper that you buy the paint...i hope this helps.

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    usj27,

    yes, i would love to DIY myself but me wife thinks i will spill paint all over our furniture!

    well, my kitchen and bathroom requires more work because there has been some leak for some time. Now it has stopped but the grouting which was done by the pkns guys has left terrible glue like marks on the wall and for the place they drilled they tampal balik with white cement.

    the last time my stupid contractor used the maxilite. and due to the leakage coming from the top floor, it has caused bubles to appear at my ceiling in the kitchen. so, i have to scrape them all out, skim coat them then only paint to give it the nice look.

    i've never come across the paint pad. maybe i'll check it out at ace hardware later.

    thanks for the help, appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sly
    wah....bro...if i wanna paint, can u borrow me those tools? and some painting kungfu too?
    Tools can lend... kungfu... well, that one you have to see Mr. Miyagi for that!

    "brush in... brush out... brush in... brush out... brush up.... brush down..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayded
    usj27,

    yes, i would love to DIY myself but me wife thinks i will spill paint all over our furniture!

    the last time my stupid contractor used the maxilite. and due to the leakage coming from the top floor, it has caused bubles to appear at my ceiling in the kitchen. so, i have to scrape them all out, skim coat them then only paint to give it the nice look.
    i've never come across the paint pad. maybe i'll check it out at ace hardware later.
    dude... wife say jump... u jump ! just don't ask how high!! ~ tell your wife you will buy the paint and let her paint the apartment lorr... that way, if she spill the paint, she will not blame you. You get a painter, she won't scold the painter but you will kena oso (for choosing the clumsy painter!!!) LOL!!

    As for your leaking ceiling, you can preseal the dampness with AJ FLOOR SEALANT (RM16.90), it is a colorless sealant that can be painted on, to seal and waterproof any flooring ( or ceiling !) and after which can be painted over...

    Like I said earlier, I can lend you my Orbital Sander and other tools if you need to DIY... and show you how to use the Paint Pad system, that is if you are interested.

    Cheers.

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    You mentioned Pearl Glo. I would not touch that because it is harder to apply. The shine is also bad because it will reveal the streaks on the wall surface if it was not smooth in the first place. If you had skimmed the wall, the differences between the new and old surface can be seen on the Pearl Glo coat due to its shine.

    There is a new upgraded ICI paint that is better than Pantelite or Pearl Glo - it is ICI Supreme. I had tried it once - great colours, good surface and easy to paint. Much better than Pearl Glo. But it is expensive.

    Pantelite is a standard paint which unfortunately does not have such a nice feel as Supreme.

    disclaimer - I am just sharing my views. I do not work for, or market ICI products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwchang
    But it is expensive.
    On that point you're absolutely right!!..moreover the price of paints have been steadily rising QUIETLY. Every year I visit the shop, the price is different. In the year 2000, ICI Pearl Glo was retailed at RM75. It went up incrementally to current price. Paint is locally packed but the raw materials are likely imported bulk, so possible reasoning for price increase. I won't be surprised in the next few years a big can of paint will hit RM150..just watch.. So much for published inflation rates fooling everyone here!

    Cheapest price can be gotten from ordinary hardware shops who stock up a lot of paint and retail mostly to painting contractors. Prices at handystores in complexes are more expensive by quite a margin.

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    kwchang,

    thanks for sharing. well, the ici team did contact me. apparently, supreme is soft-sheen finish. its best used if u want to make a small place look bigger. pearl glo are mid-sheen finish and there is a shine when u paint them and finally pentalite doesnt have any sheen.

    Has anyone used jotun or nippon paints before? I know jotun are much cheaper then ici but in terms of quality i'm not too sure. as for nippon, i heard they r pretty good but not too sure of the price range. i've always been an ICI person.

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    usj27,

    thanks buddy...i will let u know. now i'm trying to convince my wife that i'm a good painter

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    bslee,

    yes, the prices are going sky high especially for ICI paints. i'm not too sure bout other brands. who the hell actually control's these prices?? Its crazy price nowdays.

    and nowdays if its a small job, u ask a contractor to paint, they potong your leher

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    Quote Originally Posted by bslee
    ...I won't be surprised in the next few years a big can of paint will hit RM150...
    My memory is really bad these days but if I remember correctly, that is the price of the Supreme ! So it is not "the next few years". It is now.

    But it is a great paint.

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    Actually DIY home painting ain't that difficult. I'd have to say one would need some guidance to actual painting techniques, thereon practice makes perfect.
    Ok..let me impart a tip on emulsion paint dilution for immediate use.
    Get 1 or 2 medium sized pails
    Pour the entire contents into one pail.
    Half fill Fill empty can with clean tap water. One can use another pail if preferred.
    Now comes the (cheap) art of proper mixing.
    Hold the half fill can and pour the water into the bucket containing paint. Just be careful tp prevent splash.
    Then pour back the paint + water mixture back into the empty can without overfilling. Again, held not too high for it to splash.
    Repeat this many times.. like "teh tarik pouring" till it looks evenly mixed. You'll know how to adjust height of pouring after a few times..and get the hang of it..
    Get the idea?.. No need for mixing sticks, drill and paint stirrirs and messy nonsense.
    Lastly, pour only sufficient for use..say half the amount, the rest pour back into the paint can and shut the lid tightly till next portion needed.
    This was taught to me by a painting sifu 20 years ago and have DIY'ed my own mix without a hitch!. 2 coats of paint on a wall should be sufficient for a great finish. The idea is to paint over with thinner coats over each other for best results. One thick coat straight out from the tin is ENTIRELY WRONG with terrible results.
    As for brush, I prefer the long tedious method of a 3" long bristle hair bristle brush. You bet I use only 1 brush throughout..no smaller brushes for corners, nooks and crannies. Rollers are for external walls only. I don't use for indoors as no doubt its faaster but the finish is not good. Its lots hard work but its certainly one way of bringing out one's sweat!. OK..I've spoken enough...the rest of finer techniques can be found in DIY books. Have fun!.

    Quote Originally Posted by jayded
    bslee,
    yes, the prices are going sky high especially for ICI paints. i'm not too sure bout other brands. who the hell actually control's these prices?? Its crazy price nowdays.
    You want me to start bad mouthing again ah?.. Mr Mod will shove a banana down my throat lah!
    I don't think there's any control..as its not an essential. Even if it reaches RM200 a tin one day in future..I don't think they'll care..except us here.
    BTW..please DO NOT be penny wise pound foolish buying paints that cost a fraction of premium paints..especially for external walls.. THEY DO NOT LAST!.
    don't believe..observe the externals of new apartments or houses in 2 years.. green to black fungus in 2 years or less. Our weather is highly ferocious to external walls.
    Last edited by bslee; 28-05-2007 at 11:51 PM.

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