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  1. #16
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    The Subang Ria park is highly polutted with traffic fumes from the Federal highway. Suggest you go to Bukit kiara jogging path. At least you can see jungle on both sides and with guards too. People come from as far as Taman Desa and Cheras to walk and jog in Bukit kiara. They cannot be wrong.

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    Will the objection form be made available during the public hearing? or can it be downloaded from MPSJ website?

    I don't read the Classified Section, so did not know about the Notice of proposed development.

    As for the invitation for residents from SS12-SS19, will this be in the papers (hidden in some classifieds) or a letter from MPSJ? I wondered how many are aware of this other then those who read this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eileenc
    Here is a sample of the objection form as posted on Dato Lee's website ... unfortunately, it is presently NOT possible to do an e-filing on this (altho Dato Lee says he is trying to arrange with MPSJ to make it available for internet filing)

    Go to this link to view the form ...
    http://hwabeng.org.my/node/409
    Hopefully,this public session is NOT another session of....opps! development is already planned & ongoing. So, it aint' going to stop now even if you folks out there are unhappy!!!

    LA21 - how is it really practiced here??? or is it just for 'show' only? I remembered that the USJ3ABCD residents had once participated in such LA21 session before & guess what - we were eventually forced to accept what has already been planned! Residents real concerns on safety, security & traffic were totally ignored! Even our children's lives are NOT spared!!!

    Thousands of petition signatures, public protest in the presence of the press, articles written in the newspapers, pictures of real concerns & numerous meetings & presentations to MPSJ hv absolutely "NO" effect to their already "planned" development!!!

    Would really LOVE to see what would eventually happen to Subang Ria park. However, Dato Lee mentioned in the Star that folks not staying around the area CANNOT voice their grouses even tho' others can attend. How did this decision came about??? Pls show us the relevant law that 'others' cannot object!



    ps. perhaps someone can help can scan the objection form & post it up here so that the others can fill in the form b4 submitting to MPSJ. Save one trip to MPSJ! Or perhaps, if MPSJ is really sincere, can we hand in the forms during the LA 21 session? Number counts - not its due date!

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    I will be there for the hearing on jul 15th

    The lake is one of the icons of Subang Jaya.

    Many families grow up here, and many families are still growing up. Young, elderly, working people all go to the lake - their only green space for their recreation. This is one of the social obligations of the developer for selling their immense property called Subang Jaya and USJ.

    There are other lakes in PJ and they are public area (section 20, tmn jaya)

    No amphitheatre please - they are just white elephants which decay into unkempt concrete mess which keeps the day heat and make the place hot.

    There are already so many apartment coming up along Kewajipan so we do not need any more. Of course Sime UEP want to make money too and seeing the development they want to maximise their land bank.

    It is a shame also that after so long (30 years) they still have not build toilets at the lake for convenience. But I hesistate here to urge the building of toilets as I am afraid there will be no maintainence and the toilet will either be damaged,no doors, and 100% will stink

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    Interestingly, politicians, certain civil servants and developers had their own plans which was frustrated by a group of us since the late 90's.
    Please check out usj.com.my archives for the photographs, signature campaigns and press statements that go back, way back!
    Faced by us and a supportive press - they backed off then only now to emerge after their private discussions with interestingly several key operatives and allies!
    In the early 70's I used to live with my uncle in the 'horse shoe houses' just along the present private hospital there.
    I remember before we bought the property there, we were attracted to it based on the representations in advertisements and brochures of the lake and greenary.
    It was all part of the scheme as I remember.
    So if these people have plans good - we too have plans and we are ready, more organized than before and if Sime Darby boys want a fight we wil give them and others who back them one to preserve what in our mind rightly belongs to the people - Subang Ria Park!
    MPSJ must decide where they are sitting on this one - they cannot 'hunt with the hounds and run with the hares' as they have many times before and times have indeed changed so has the political, social and environmental landscape/pressures facing us.
    The meeting must be open to all people and the civil society! Period!

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    And why was it not maintained - it is all part of the great plan of the men in grey suits/batiks who wanted to leave it be to 'rot away' and attract negative publicity so that at the right time - yes the right time they can emerge and put their plan into action saying that they are doing us all a service with this "redevelopment" and "upgrading" which indeed is a joke!

    My team is ready, my team of bloggers are ready, the press who are sensitive to these issues are with us and so are several state and federal politicians to whom I have already spoken to on this matter!
    Subang Ria must be upgraded and preserved as a green lung and recreational venue for the public - period! Enough construction in that area already - period!The "owners?" can have plans but if the government steps in, in response to people pressure sorry lah the boys in grey suits need to wait for another decade!

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    Out of curiousity, can we, as a group, sue the developer for taking away land for the current and future development? I thought I read somewhere that a High Court judge commented that we have the right to the lakes, parks and playgrounds as it was considered part of the infrastructure and attractions which the residents have paid for.

    If the answer is Yes, somebody should rope in 100 residents to share cost and sue the developer. Or perhaps CASSA can go for this landmark case on the residents' behalf.

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    Brother - The answer to both counts is a big YES!

    After several battles, I sincerely thought common sense will prevail but I was wrong. They just paused as they always do!

    But, we are ready now.

    As I said - the team is ready - Press @both local and foreign, bloggers @both local and foreign, the local civil society, NGOs and CASSA's team of Lawyers/environmentalist/professionals have been already notified.

    The last time @1997 to 2001 season - several senior politicians urged us (CASSA) to give them face and that they will resolve the matter with the state government taking over Subang Ria and gazetting it!

    In fact, we had planned/organized a high powered program where then, the first lady was to grace the occasion and during that occasion a former MB to make a statement - we were waiting for that would entrench our wishes - period!

    We called it off to save certain "political faces" to allow them - putting it in their own words - "allow them to work within and bring about the same result!"

    But nothing happened since!

    They were waiting for the right timing?

    But never mind - we are all still here and certainly better prepared this time! I will also speak to Dato Lee Hwa Beng - I know from my last conversation with him that he is strongly on our side to preserve Subang Ria! I will speak to him too!

    Remember - UNITY IS STRENGTH!

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    Dr J George, you have my vote and support. Keep up the good work!
    lbn

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbn
    Dr J George, you have my vote and support. Keep up the good work!
    You have my support too if CASSA sues them. Take them to court. Even if it takes years, at least, a court injunction will stop all work in the meantime and let the residents enjoy the park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllUrban
    [COLOR=DarkRed]"They will be able to go there in the evenings and say that they have a facility to rival the KLCC park."
    Subang Ria can rival the KLCC park already now, because the KLCC park is no more. It's disappeared. Gobbled up by construction.
    See you...

    Isa Rahim

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    hi,
    first of all from what i understand, the park is private land. so MPSJ is using this as an excuse that they cannot gazzete the land as a public park.
    HOWEVER, that piece of land was mentioned in the brochures and catalogues as a public park when we purchased our houses from the developer. isn't this a case of misleading the buyers?
    i find it extremely insulting when the developer mentioned that they cannot develop the park for free. they said it must come together with the profit generating development. hence, i think it is their game plan that they left the park to rot for so long. shouldn't they now be sued for not maintaining the park - didnt they sell houses in subang jaya with the promise of a park?

    and the amphitheatre? of course it is going to rot. it is part of the game plan because a few years from now, the park will be in a new state of deterioration. then they have another excuse to further "develop" the land.

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    Sin Leong you are right on track!

    You cannot withdraw a representation that was used to induce buyers in the fist place. Remember at the time of the first construction - this area was not the first choice and not hot but with the media and other forms of hype used - the garden city approach, park, lakes, playgrounds, new designs the horse shoe houses, hospital etc etc we were all drawn in!

    Now decades after that event - there is a 'grand plan' to turn the land adjacent to the federal highway into a Manhattan Style skyline and it has already started - check the area opposide Subang Parade etc.

    Even open spaces and other green lungs are been targetted!

    They think the original owners are no longer around. That we do not have the brochures and other documentations - they are dead wrong!

    We must preserve Subang Ria at any costs!

    My advice to the men in grey suits in their high corporate towers and their friends in policy circles - leave this area alone! You have already made your milllions - Enough!

    My advice - hand this piece of land to /state government/MPSJ to be gazzetted into a park - an act that has been long overdue!

    We can call it - 'Subang Ria - Kak Endon' in honor of the PM's late wife!

    Got my drift?

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    I suggest that the copies of the objection form be made available during the hearing. This will facilitate onsite form filling and collection for block submission.

    A copy of the form on this thread available for download will be helpful.

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    there's an article about this issue posted in Malaysiakini.com

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